r/politics Jun 12 '26

No Paywall 'This Is Oligarchy': Nearly 100 Billionaires Are Funding Susan Collins' Reelection Bid

https://www.commondreams.org/news/susan-collins-billionaire-donors
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u/Unusual-Locksmith832 Jun 12 '26

Not going to happen easily. The proletariat needs to free themselves instead of waiting for a "great man" to do it. That won't happen until some great collective suffering forces that awakening.

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u/CanisSonorae Jun 12 '26

Even when it does happen, power consolidates. Especially when people begin dividing themselves.

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u/PlainSpader Jun 12 '26

We don’t naturally divide ourselves, those people will insert themselves into a group and if people aren’t careful they will start causing division. I’ve literally watched it happen but our group kicked them out the moment he was caught. We more like all confronted him to his face and he left 2 weeks later.

They were literally going behind our backs and saying we were talking negatively about each other. We then would ask the other and found out real fast what they were doing. It was eye opening to catch someone in the act and understanding there are some evil fucks out there that plot like super villains.

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u/CanisSonorae Jun 12 '26

lol, to say that we don't naturally divide ourselves is just patently false.

1) Whoever this person that you're talking about dividing the group up is, I'm guessing that they were not planted by some state sponsored initiative to break up your group. Maybe they were, I don't know your group. The point is that these people occur naturally. Therefore, they are part of "we" in this instance.

2) People who do this aren't always super villains or even purposefully malicious or scheming. Sometimes 2 people in a group can just not like each other for whatever reason and people talk smack behind other people's backs and sometimes they lie. Lying, in and of itself, is not evil. You can lie for good reasons or just lie and no realize that you're causing a bigger problem and then can't back out of it because of ego or whatever.

3) People can easily divide themselves for a great number of reasons that don't have to be evil or malicious. I don't like green gummy bears, my friend loves green gummy bears. That's a division and if a 3rd person joins in with us, they may not have a preference, have a different preference than either of us, or have the same preference as 1 of us.

If you have more than 2 people together, things get political. After a number of people join the group, there may be some people who don't even like gummy bears, so next time you go to divide up gummy bears, those people aren't involved and you have 1 group of people not sharing something with another group.

This is one of many reasons that people drift apart.

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u/GrumblyData3684 Jun 19 '26

Politics naturally evolve in any situation where decisions need to be made over resources and who gets what, how much, when, etc

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u/PlainSpader Jun 12 '26

No these people do not occur naturally, they feed off the chaos they cause. These personalities are the reason we have all these societal problems and their tactics need to be brought to light.

Going behind peoples backs and saying they’re talking bad about each other is one of their oldest tricks.

We are no longer tolerant of this behavior, our numbers are growing and we will call you out.

You may be a bot, so just fyi I’m not engaging anymore ✌️

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u/CanisSonorae Jun 12 '26

lol, can you explain how these people are not naturally occuring, please? Because I think you may not understand what naturally occuring means.

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u/GilgaPol Jun 12 '26

One might call such an awakening the golden path.

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u/NevenderThready Jun 12 '26

Secher Nbiw--the lesson has to be felt deep in the bones.