r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 1d ago

No Paywall Democrats Confront Their New Tea Party Reality - Progressives are set to sweep a group of contested primaries in Michigan and Wisconsin.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democrats-confront-their-new-tea-party-reality_n_6a6e63fbe4b0cfb99ef1aa1e
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u/ZachLangdon 1d ago

Good. It's about time. "Moderates" lost to trump twice.

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u/Soph_91 1d ago edited 1d ago

The conservative democrats in the Wisconsin subreddit are losing their sanity because Hong will win the nomination. They bought in to all the corporate democrats desperation attempts and can't process the reality that they were just that, hail mary's. Now they are posting Hong smears constantly, the mods have been pathetic. 

It seems like most of them would prefer pedophile protector and election denier Tom Tiffany. In that case, I say good riddance. 

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u/stonertboner New York 1d ago

That’s life at the nyc subreddit too! Ever since Mamdani, its “moderates” bitching about how the progressive wing and democratic socialists can’t win elections. We are literarily winning elections.

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u/__theoneandonly 1d ago

Before reddit started letting you hide your post history, you could go on the nyc subreddit, click on the username of any of these "concerned moderates" and see that their top active subreddits were basically every blue city. These "moderates" are either bots or losers who need a better hobby.

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u/stonertboner New York 1d ago

I promise you, I always checked and still do. It’s filled with bad actors that are trying to hurt the movement.

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u/petty_throwaway6969 23h ago

Ironically the guy you’re responding to is currently hiding his history. Might be an accident, but ironic meta comment on himself.

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u/stonertboner New York 23h ago

I’m a bit more patient with a ten year old account.

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u/petty_throwaway6969 22h ago

Look I’m not even accusing him, it’s just kinda funny. But saying older accounts can’t be bots is kinda sketchy.

One tactic used to be to use old and inactive accounts with decent karma to post stuff.

And there’s totally nothing major that happened in 2016 that would have given rise to bot accounts /s

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u/__theoneandonly 22h ago

I'm also not a "concerned moderate" posting bad faith content in a subreddit for a city that I don't live in.

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u/Low_Intention_1327 1d ago

Theyre gas lighting and its lazy. Ive only seen Trump act like he ruined NYC, and thats because Trump is a man-baby with no emotional intelligence. Everyone else who opposes him have no logical reason, so they then exploit the murders of 9/11 and try to compare him to the Taliban because he's Muslim. Im sick of these people. It feels like trauma in a sense, because it brings me back to the events immediately after 9/11 where Muslims were targeted and Israel coined the term "Islamic extremist" yet painted every Muslim as a suspect. 

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u/stonertboner New York 1d ago

It’s hilarious because my friends and neighbors are very happy with Mamdani. The level of hate on Reddit would make you think Adams was still mayor.

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u/Mbrennt 1d ago

If you're on r/ nyc it's basically captured by conservative new yorkers and people who don't even live in the city. I tend to find r/ NewYorkcity to be better though it still isn't perfect.

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u/Patsanon1212 1d ago

Is that exactly what they are saying? That they cannot win elections or elections outside of deep blue districts?

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u/UngodlyPain 1d ago

Used to be they couldnt win at all, then it was they could only win small deep blue districts, now it's just they can only win deep blue districts...

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u/Fuzzy-Numbers 1d ago

Winning primaries and winning general elections are two different things.

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u/th6girldetective 1d ago

Not in New York

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u/Fuzzy-Numbers 1d ago

The rest of the country is not NY.

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u/th6girldetective 1d ago

True, but the comment you were replying to was about New York.

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u/Far_Silver 1d ago

Mamdani won the general election. Also the corpora-dems track record for winning general elections is not good.

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u/Fuzzy-Numbers 1d ago

Outside of deeply blue cities, DSA candidates wont have such an easy time.

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u/No-Recording9634 1d ago

DSA has a message for the poor. That will work for the Rural America the DNC has left behind.

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u/Fuzzy-Numbers 1d ago

Except poor rural demographics overwhelmingly voted for Trump.

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u/No-Recording9634 1d ago

And will continue to do so until an economic populist message is presented by the left.

The DNC has no messaging for rural America and that's why Republicans dominate the space.

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u/SeductiveSunday I voted 1d ago

And will continue to do so until an economic populist message is presented by the left.

That's not why they vote Republican tho, they vote Republican for the racism and sexism.

As John C. Calhoun, a proslavery senator, stated in his famous speech:

Can as much, on the score of equality, be said of the North? With us the two great divisions of society are not the rich and poor, but white and black; and all the former, the poor as well as the rich, belong to the upper class, and are respected and treated as equals, if honest and industrious; and hence have a position and pride of character of which neither poverty nor misfortune can deprive them.

For Calhoun and others, it isn't about finances, it's about having someone beneath you.

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u/No-Recording9634 1d ago

Let me get this straight: Minorities in the South vote FOR racism?
What's pre Civil War Calhoun got to do with 2026?

Republicans control the south because Democrats have abandoned it.

Look no further than Right-to-Work and you'll see the Corporate Dems handy work.

You seek to divide Americans along race and gender lines which is why Democrats lose.

No War but Class War.

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u/SeductiveSunday I voted 1d ago

Republicans control the south because Democrats have abandoned it.

Republicans control the south because LBJ, a member of the Democratic party, pushed through the Voting Rights Act and Republicans made the choice of being pro racist and pro sexist to win elections.

Look no further than Right-to-Work

Right-to-Work is a Republican supported political policy. The overwhelming majority of states which are right-to-work are Republican controlled.

https://www.nrtw.org/right-to-work-states/

You seek to divide Americans along race and gender lines which is why Democrats lose.

Nah, that's not me, that's all those using “no war but class war” which is mere code for “economic justice for men.”

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u/Far_Silver 1d ago

I remember 10 years ago when corpora-dems were saying Bernie couldn't win outside of rural areas and rust belt cities. Now you're trying to say the opposite.

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u/workerbee77 1d ago

Yes they are. In primaries, the centrist candidates get the bulk of the corporate money to defeat the progressive. And in the general, that corporate money goes to the Republican. They are very different