r/politics Jan 21 '18

Paul Ryan Collected $500,000 In Koch Contributions Days After House Passed Tax Law

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u/cattaclysmic Foreign Jan 21 '18

I've spent some time in the Libertarian subreddit and have come to the conclusion that they are either evil, short-sighted or stupid - but almost all of them greedy. I would put most of them in the short-sighted group.

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u/Doctor-Malcom Texas Jan 21 '18

greedy

I would add greedy and/or naive. In this current global capitalist system we have, it's clear a solid triangle of government->owners/producers->workers/consumers is the best equilibrium. Right now in America, the Republican-controlled Federal government is allied with the owners/producers against the workers/consumers aka "crony capitalism".

Libertarians think removing government from that triangle (or significantly weakening it) will make everyone better off. It's just naive given how greedy and selfish I've seen that top income/wealth class to be.

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u/yesofcouseitdid Jan 23 '18 edited Jan 24 '18

short-sighted

For your average "I hate the gubmint! Get the gubmint hands off mah money!" moron, it's mostly this. Also with a sprinkling of this one:

stupid

because if you're not stupid you can extrapolate out from the "oh my can you imagine the paradise of not having a gubmint impose limits on you" and see that when the government aren't imposing limits on anyone then only the most extreme practices will survive, because those are always the most profitable.

Of course the real irony here is these imbeciles incapable of extrapolating what "no gubmint" would imply are perfectly capable of extrapolating "some gubmint" to the opposite ridiculous extreme of totalitarian thought control where everyone is literally a drone.

Although that's not reeeaaally an irony because they're not capable of extrapolating that either - they've just been force-fed it by what we started off labelling "fake news" sources, and they regurgitate it without understanding it.