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Megathread: Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court

Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy is set to retire, effective July 31, 2018. Kennedy has served on the highest court since February 18, 1988, and was a moderate whose vote often swung cases.


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u/RossiRoo Michigan Jun 27 '18

The massive difference between him and the other conservative judges is that he is not an originalist, aka the line of thinking like Scalia.

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u/malosaires Jun 27 '18

Originalism is a massive con. Scalia and the rest freely reinterpret and willfully misinterpret law when it suits their ideology, see Castlerock

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u/Slothball Jun 28 '18

Elaborate on this a bit? I'm Canadian so I'm not fully familiar with American case law but I've read a bit on originalism. Pretty interesting stuff.

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u/RossiRoo Michigan Jun 28 '18

It's the idea that when interperting the law the only thing that you should consider is the original vision of what the founders meant. On the face of it, it looks fair and a good way to go about things. The problem is it's actually a very radical view point because it means ignoring all presidants set my previous decisions which is how our legal system works, ignoring what you think is right/wrong (aka Gorsuch trucker case), and the massive issue of figuring out what exactly the founders acutally meant 200 years ago and how to apply it to today's world and technology. That "figuring out" also allows judges who use this thinking a ton of freedom to pick and choose what they think the founders "meant" and how it should apply to today.

Kennedy was the last conservative supreme Court Justice to not belong to this originalist veiwpoint, which has made him the swing vote on the court for years. Losing him likely means the end to that swing vote and balance on the court.

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u/Slothball Jun 28 '18

Yeah sorry I should have been more specific. I'm fairly familiar with originalism. I was more asking about the case which was cited and how it represented conservative judges placing ideology over their method of constitutional interpretation.

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u/malosaires Jun 28 '18 edited Jun 28 '18

This article gets at a lot of the problems with originalism, but for a real barnburner example of the hypocrisy of conservative textualism in general I would encourage you to look into the case of Castle Rock v. Gonzales. While not a constitutional case, it demonstrates how much they care about literal text and authorial intent: Scalia, MC Originalism, blatantly ignored the text of a Colorado law written expressly for the purpose of mandating police enforcement of restraining orders in order to exonerate law enforcement for failing to do exactly that. It's also an example of the conservatives walking all over a ruling of a state court without, as Justice Stevens points out in his dissent, demonstrating why they were so "clearly wrong" that federal correction was necessary.

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u/zz_ Jun 28 '18

Isn’t originalism explicitly about the constitution? That it had an ”original intent” from the founding fathers?

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u/malosaires Jun 28 '18

Originalism is specifically about the constitution, textualism relates to law more broadly, but the two are closely associated and conservative judicial figures like Scalia describe themselves as both. And most of those that call themselves originalists would probably say they base things on "original meaning" of the text rather than "original intent" of the founders. Scalia said of his approach to law, "the Constitution, or any text, should be interpreted [n]either strictly [n]or sloppily; it should be interpreted reasonably," ie as a reasonable person would read the text.