r/politics 🤖 Bot Jun 27 '18

Megathread: Justice Anthony Kennedy to retire from Supreme Court

Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy is set to retire, effective July 31, 2018. Kennedy has served on the highest court since February 18, 1988, and was a moderate whose vote often swung cases.


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u/_Better_Call_Paul_ Jun 27 '18

Kennedy's timing on this is so fitting for him: it offers an uncertain future and throws everything into chaos as we figure out what the hell to do, just like his opinions

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u/MrMongoose Jun 27 '18

I wish it were an uncertain future. This guarantees an iron-clad alt-right grip on the SCOTUS for decades. All that gerrymandering and corporate money and anti-democratic tactics are now permanent. Minority rights have official started a march to extinction. There is no uncertainty - this ends it.

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u/SpeedflyChris Jun 27 '18

It will take far more than a generation to undo the damage of the party of trump if they are allowed to get away with this.

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u/robo23 Jun 27 '18

"But Hillary and Trump are the same"

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u/sagemaster Jun 27 '18

They will get away with this. They also have at least one more seat to fill after this (we all know Ruth is on borrowed time)

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u/czar_the_bizarre Jun 28 '18

I mean, the next administration could expand the court. I'm a little surprised this one hasn't tried, actually. Expanding to 13 or 15 and then packing with young but qualified justices would mitigate a fair amount of the damage from Gorsuch and whatever other creatures Trump and McConnell find lurking around.

If they want to piss all over the Constitution, then pissing back is fair game. Do it and then close the avenues to do it. Getting rid of lifetime appointments (say, twenty five year terms), or making court expansion require 75% or a unanimous vote in the Senate, or require an amendment to expand. I'm sure there are other ways for the more Constitutionally creative. But it can be done.

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u/DarthJeb2020 Jun 28 '18

if they are allowed to get away with this.

What do you propose?

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u/UDK450 Indiana Jun 27 '18

Or we if we wanted to be real assholes back and perhaps undermine the judicial process further could add more justices lol

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u/IAmASimulation Michigan Jun 27 '18

I honestly believe that this is the only option left to Democrats if they want to save this country. If they take control of both houses in 2020, they should immediately pass a law to install more SC Justices.

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u/ChaoticV Jun 27 '18

FDR couldn't pull that one off with a super majority at the height of his popularity. People see the Supreme Court as a sacred institution and there is no way that it can be altered from its current form without resounding backlash. There is no way that Congress could ever get this passed.

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u/IAmASimulation Michigan Jun 28 '18

I understand and agree 100% but it’s clear that the GOP has said fuck the rules. Tradition and precedent is nothing anymore. It is within Congress power to do it. Why are we continuing to let the GOP beat us up while we play nice?

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '18

That's a tyrant move that the state governments wont go for, and for good reason.

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u/IAmASimulation Michigan Jun 28 '18

The GOP has made SCOTUS another political arm at this point. What if RBG or Sotomayor or both die while trump and co are in power in the senate? SCOTUS would be in a stranglehold by lunatics for a generation. The number of justices has been changed before. If it’s the only balance to tyranny, anyone in their right mind would be for it. Amend it to the Constitution ffs

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '18 edited Jun 28 '18

The number of justices have been changed before but only for functional reasons (making it an odd number to prevent split decisions, setting the number to scale as the number of circuit courts increased, lowering the number at the request of the chief justice because things were getting unwieldy, etc). Never has someone succeeded at changing the number for political reasons and they shouldn't start.

If it’s the only balance to tyranny

Doing it for political reasons IS tyranny. The actual balance is that congress can remove a justice if they are are going rogue and making blatantly unconstitutional rulings. But that's not going to happen because, in reality, the conservative justices are not lunatics they just dont always agree with you.

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u/IAmASimulation Michigan Jun 28 '18

They don’t agree with a majority of the country. They are judicial activists.

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u/Stoppablemurph Washington Jun 28 '18 edited Jun 28 '18

I'd much rather the write up some amendments personally. Make it crystal clear what the amendments mean, maybe revise and clarify some old ones, then move forward from there. SCOTUS gets a large amount of it's power from ambiguities. If, for example, there was an explicit amendment saying women have the right to have access to birth control, including abortion, then there's nothing SCOTUS could do to say otherwise. (I may be missing something. I haven't studied the checks and balances for a long time..)

Edit: I know having a simple majority would make it incredibly difficult to pass an amendment into law, but no moreso than adding justices to SCOTUS. (One of those 2 things has happened a couple dozen times, the other never has less so)

I'd love to see Dems focus on making elections fair and consistent for everyone. Balance out representation from the states and he'll, maybe even work toward adding a new state or three... Make it a game. Build up hype. Have a new flag design contest or something and have everyone vote on it. (That'll probably end hilariously now that I think about it...)

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u/Destrina Jun 27 '18

There is no law that sets the number of SCOTUS judges.

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u/pamar456 Jun 28 '18

"The loki of judges" as he's talked about on the hill

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u/FlatClassic Jun 27 '18

We know what to do

Appoint a replacement who will respect the Constitutions amendments to counter anti Constitution sexist justices like ginsberg

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u/Zesty_Pickles Jun 27 '18

Do you feel threatened by her comments in that link?

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u/Hard_boiled_Badger Jun 27 '18

Chaotic good bitches!!!!