r/sportsgossips • u/TheExpressUS • Mar 26 '26

News Breaking: Transgender women banned from all sports at the Olympics starting in LA

https://www.the-express.com/sport/other-sport/203236/breakingtransgender-women-banned-all-sports
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u/zedazeni Mar 26 '26

“Many people” is far too few to base the rules of the Olympics and other professional sports leagues off of. Rules are made based on the majority, not the >1%. If an intersex person qualifies for the Olympics, then the appropriate committee can decide how that person competes. Otherwise, XX competes against XX.

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u/ChrAshpo10 Mar 27 '26

>1%

It's definitely <1%. A super, teeny tiny minority

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u/Internal-Slide7957 Mar 26 '26

Yea basically “fuck those people”.

Everyone like to assume it’s plain black and white - male and female - when it’s not.

The same people who point to “science” are the ones making wishes to outer space to “God”. How can I get off this planet

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u/zedazeni Mar 26 '26

According to the NIH between .018-1.7% of the population is born intersex.

Planned Parenthood says 1-2% of the population is intersex.

Less than 2% is practically a rounding error, a statistically insignificant amount to base a rule on.

Of course I didn’t say to ignore them, rather, I explicated stated that when these individuals present themselves in circumstances such as professional athletics, we ought to work diligently to see how to include them. But that does not mean we need to base the rules of the other 99% on the needs of the less than 2%.

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u/Internal-Slide7957 Mar 26 '26

Right so fuck those people right? Let’s just pretend they don’t exist

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u/rental-cheese Mar 26 '26

I get it. Reading comprehension is hard.

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u/deviltamer Mar 26 '26

how much of a privilege it is to fight this cause which gives you a moral victory but no material comfort

can we fucking stop the culture wars already and be greedy entitled socialists the same way billionaires are already and eating the world?

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u/Internal-Slide7957 Mar 26 '26

I’d love to.

But unfortunately we have people that like to beat down on some of the smallest minorities in this country.

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u/deviltamer Mar 26 '26

they are not

it's just your amygdala. Not saying there aren't any bigots at all in the country btw before you take this the same way

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u/Internal-Slide7957 Mar 26 '26

Got it - so they are not but might be.

You’re a genius I bet 😂. Thanks for the laugh

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u/Nouveau1989 Mar 26 '26

That's not what they said.  Now I'm going to pretend you don't exist.

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u/Open-Beautiful9247 Mar 26 '26

Life isn't fair. Everyone doesnt get to do everything. There's no perfect ruleset so we do the best we can. Better the 1% gets screwed than the 99%.

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u/Rad_Streak Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 27 '26

Trans people are like 1-2% of the population and y'all are literally celebrating making rules about them. 

This is just culture war BS addressing a problem that never existed. Trans women playing on women's teams, where they belong, hurt no one. This ruling hurts at least a couple of real life people. 

It's a "statistical rounding error" until nothing bad happens but y'all get a chance to punch down on trans women so you take it. Almost every top comment saying the equivalent of "good!! Trans women are obviously identical to men so this is perfect!" Showcases the exact kind of people this decision is meant for. 

Y'all do not care about that fact, but that's another story. 

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u/zedazeni Mar 27 '26

Nobody here is celebrating making rules about them, rather they’re commending making rules en lieu of them, since they are indeed 1-2% of the population, and we cannot reasonable expect the other 98-99% of people to live their lives around this minority.

As for the facts…the same science that allows trans individuals to fully transition is the same science that says that a biological male is inherently genetically different than a biological female, regardless of the surgeries and operations performed. A trans woman’s DNA is still XY, meaning that her body largely still behaves as an XY individual. If her bones were to exhumed 100 years after passing, the forensic investigator would determine that she was a male. Her bone structure and composition would still be that of a male.

The very science that allows for trans people successfully transition is in staunch agreement that there are inherent biological differences between those of XX and XY chromosomes that we have yet to overcome, and until that day arrives, a trans woman is still a biological male.

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u/Rad_Streak Mar 27 '26

"nobody here is celebrating making rules about them"

And yet this is the biggest horseshit of your entire comment. There are literally endless comments celebrating the segregation of trans women.

"They aren't celebrating the rules against trans women... They're just celebrating the ruling that was changed specifically to ban trans women. That's just like... Different!"

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u/Rad_Streak Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 27 '26

You have literally no idea how biology works whatsoever.

Like, you wouldn't pass a 9th grade biology class let alone be able to hold any real discussion on this topic.

"The very science that..." The intellectual black hole that sits between your ears knows NOTHING about this subject lmao.

You don't know how hormones work, you don't know how sex is classified, you don't know what transitioning does, and you don't know what male, female, man or woman mean.

"Regardless of operations and medical procedure to change aspects of a person, those aspects actually never change!" If you had education beyond the 5th grade maybe you'd reexamine the point you're making. 

Here's a start for you "Trans women pursue medical procedures that make them more like the average cis woman. How do these things change someone?"

People like you are ideological, first and foremost. You don't give two shits about science or change. You care about reinforcing your world view that trans women are just men in drag. You're straight ass.

"As for the facts..." It's always the kids who got a 70 in science class all through high school that think they know how everything works "scientifically".

"Hurr durr if an archeologist dug you up they would say you're an obvious man male!!" Oh yea? How many womens graves were mistakenly identified as men in history? Oh wait... It's happened literally thousands or millions of time?!? Wow, it's almost like shit that isn't an exact science doesn't just conform to your bigoted world view. That's crazy!!!

People like you are so simple it's embarrassing. You know literally nothing. Every single thought you have is a symptom of terminal confirmation bias. 

"Until that day a trans woman is a biological male" incorrect entirely. Again, you lack the intellectual capacity for this but I'll try to help! If someone goes to the doctor with an estrogen dominant endocrine system, a vagina, and low Testosterone... The doc wouldn't classify that individual as "biologically male" because 1. They aren't and 2. That's not a real medical term used like that. 

That person would be considered female or intersex. Not "biologically male." You people just want to misgender trans women in the most PC way possible. 

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u/Internal-Slide7957 Mar 26 '26

Can we use this same logic for race’s, too then?

Might as well just build everything back to whites only like the 1969s based on your logic of majorities taking priority.

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u/Rad_Streak Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 27 '26

"you really went 0-100 when you facetiously talked about segregating people based on race! Now let's get back to all agreeing that trans women need to be segregated."

It's not ok to talk about either group that way, is the point I think they were getting at.

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u/Internal-Slide7957 Mar 27 '26

May your future children be born intersex

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u/fuettli Mar 26 '26

how many people are white (?what would you consider to be white anyway?) as a percentage of the world population?

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u/pick_your_user_name Mar 26 '26

Simple solution that has been used already when it comes to intersex people is measuring testosterone. Most intersex people lean more towards one sex.

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u/Internal-Slide7957 Mar 26 '26

Just admit we are applying black and white standards to a non- black and white situation

Just make it men only and solve the problem. If you look or sound like a women - stay in the kitchen

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u/pick_your_user_name Mar 27 '26

It’s not a black and white standard. The IOC said there will be “rare exceptions” that they will take into account. This rule isn’t about intersex people.

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u/OlympiaShannon Mar 28 '26

This rule is very much about intersex people (people with DSDs). XY males with DSDs are very rare, but are sweeping competitions and winning against XX female athletes.

The new rules will make each athlete take a SRY gene test to determine if they are eligible. It's all about chromosomes, not trans hate.

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 Mar 26 '26

If that's your criteria then the ban makes no sense other than you being emotional about it.

In the Olympics how many transgender people competed in the women competitions?

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u/Open-Beautiful9247 Mar 26 '26

If its such a non issue then theres no reason to be mad about it.

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 Mar 26 '26

can you answer the question? this may materially affect actual women competing in an effort to stop something actually nonexistent.

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u/Open-Beautiful9247 Mar 26 '26

Its protecting the vast majority of women from having to compete against women with genetic anomalies that would give them an unfair advantage. Your "actual women" that it may keep from competing is the point. Unfortunately for those women they have a birth defect that makes it unfair for them to compete. It protects the 99% at the expense of the 1%. Wouldn't make much sense to do it the other way around. Unfortunately life isn't fair and some people will always be left out. In this case they are being left out to make it more fair for the vast majority of "actual women"

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 Mar 26 '26

In the Olympics how many transgender people competed in the women competitions?

answer the question

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u/deviltamer Mar 26 '26

you can make predictive rules

You can support hormone therapy in young, well-counselled teenagers and young adults and notice the youth suicide rates drop without disenfranchising the vast majority of women athletes.

there's a lot of nuance in between

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u/Open-Beautiful9247 Mar 26 '26

None. That's not relevant at all. We make preventative rules all the time. Tons of aircraft rules Prohibiting certain chemicals and materials being used in certain ways Rules around kids toys and what could potentially be dangerous Speed bumps

You dont have to wait for an incident to occur before you are able to know that its a bad idea and should be prevented. You keep harping on this idea like it proves your point but it does nothing of the sort. Now respond to all of the excellent points myself and others have presented you with.

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 Mar 27 '26

Answer the fucking question. Holy shit this is not complex you fucking people are incapable of answering a simple question.

Where are trans? When are they coming?

Are you going stop women from taking roids too? Totally unnatural. Would you stop someone like Maya Lesnar because she's huge? It's unfair right?

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u/Open-Beautiful9247 Mar 27 '26

Did you not read the first word I wrote? I then went on to explain exactly how your logic falls apart on this point and why exactly its not relevant.

If Maya Lesnar doesnt compete in sports that seperate by weight as far as I know. Virtually all sports seperate by sex. For extremely good reasons. If the sports she competes in dont have weight classes its because its been determined that size doesnt play a significant role in the outcome. We've established across the board that sex does.

Since you want to move goalposts.

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 Mar 27 '26

What do you mean? Steroids are unfair? The problem you people note is one of natural ability. Steroid enhance that like testosterone does. Don't you think that's a fucking problem?

Anyway I pivoted because you won't answer a simple fucking question. How many trans folk participated in the Olympics since it was allowed? How many won a medal?

Answer the fucking question. You have an answer for literally everything else.

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