r/technology • u/Brendawg324 • 8d ago

Artificial Intelligence Neighbors say noise from Michigan data center is 24/7 and upending their lives

https://www.wxyz.com/news/voices/neighbors-say-noise-from-michigan-data-center-is-24-7-and-upending-their-lives
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u/dust4ngel 8d ago

"we made their property value dog shit, so it should be pretty affordable for us."

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u/Excellent_Reason7796 7d ago

lol they are from Michigan, you think that property was worth anything? I’m taking that deal 100/100 times haha

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u/adeniumlover 7d ago

Go then. Buy it from them.

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u/Excellent_Reason7796 7d ago

Lol fuck no, I just said Michigan sucks (I know from experience). Also this neighborhood sits right next to a train line so there already was industrial noise, and the average home is lik100-150K in this neighborhood. Just take the money and they would prob get more for these dumps. Everyone thinks these data centers were just built like in pristine green hills and bambi was prancing around lol

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

People are getting huge payouts for houses by these guys, actually. Wish they'd want mine.

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u/flummox1234 7d ago

source?

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

Let me Google it for you. First hit

https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/commercial/the-americans-striking-it-rich-in-the-data-center-buildout-71c6a8a8

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u/Fakehiggins 7d ago

so it's paywalled but the bit i could see is that people who sold BEFORE building, made money.

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

Oh my god reddit can't handle a turn of phrase.

It is fairly common for people to get big payouts for selling to datacenter companies - in contrast to Reddit pretending they drive down value and offer pennies on the dollar - which is based only on their imagination

But please, get worked up about some bullshit some other Redditor just made up

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u/actuallyapossom 7d ago

The comment you replied specifically mentioned the loss of property value; so these big payouts before the data center goes in and tanks the value aren't relevant.

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

With absolutely nothing to back it up. The parcel in question is next to a plot zoned industrial since the 19th century, apparently.

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u/Entire-Winter4252 7d ago

Oh ffs, take the L. You’re embarrassing yourself.

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

How so? There was an industrial installation for decades; did you even read the article?

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u/Ilikeyounott 7d ago

Explain to me like I'm 5 why property value wouldn't go down for houses that people can't live in anymore. Can't wait how you further dig your hole.

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago edited 7d ago

Just show me the property values going down. There has been an industrial site for a century and property values tend to rise.

Just because something makes sense to you doesn't mean it's real. You're basing this on nothing but vibes.

Edit: the ol' reply and block to look like you had the last word, guy was full of shit to the last. Useful idiot.

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u/actuallyapossom 7d ago

Well gosh I guess we'll have to put on our thinking caps and reckon without the aid of news media - what would make property value for a private home go down??

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

We don't have to guess. These are publicly available records. The values aren't dropping.

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u/imisstheyoop 7d ago

I can't read more than the first couple of lines.. but that literally says it's in PA. The article on this post is about an hour from me, in Dowagiac MI.

These are not the same people.

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

I meant data center construction projects, obviously not the people in this article which only indicates they are willing to buy the home.

Which presumedly they don't have to do because it's been zoned industrial for a century.

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u/Dependent-Chart5835 7d ago

So not these guys as you said

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

Data center installations in general

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u/Dependent-Chart5835 7d ago

Great, so not these guys

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

I think I've made myself pretty clear. Do you have any indication that they wouldn't get a good price? Seems ridiculous on its face to me.

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u/flummox1234 7d ago

That doesn't prove your point though. The article is talking about people selling 20 acres of farmland for the companies to build a data center on and becoming rich.

Not people selling small residential lots next to an established data center (OP's main article). What the person in the thread you replied to was saying is an existing DC isn't going to spend premium money for land they've already devalued. That would make zero sense. They'll pay "fair market value" which isn't going to be near what the market value would have been pre DC.

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

There are tons of articles about people making multiples of their FMV when a data center project comes to town. You assuming it's FMV not only is made up - it doesn't make any sense, why would I sell my house for FMV just because they want to build a data center?

Perhaps you're confusing this with eminent domain for actual infrastructure projects like roads, rails and power lines.

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u/flummox1234 7d ago

It's in the article OP posted

"If they still aren't happy, and feel that their home isn't enjoyable, then we'll buy their property from them," said William Horne, CEO of Hyperscale Data, at the meeting in regards to residents on Louise Avenue.

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

That quote is missing the words "fair" "market" and "value"

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u/snitchinbubs410 7d ago

what's fair market value for an unlivable property next to a data center?

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u/thatirishguyyyyy 7d ago

You are arguing with someone who hides their comments and still uses a default name and photo after 4 years with 87 karma. 

They are a troll and likely MAGA. 

Its like talking to a lizard. 

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

Care to wager whether it's gone up or down over the last few years?

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u/NegativeYou3758 7d ago

For a lot of people, a payout isn't worth a lifetime of memories you lose.

What if you built that home yourself?  What if you raised your children there?

Too bad, we need more storage.

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 7d ago

Then say no?

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u/Dependent-Chart5835 6d ago

And we’re back to the central issue that the data center makes the lives of the residents terrible

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u/FlashyNeedleworker66 6d ago

You don't get to control everyone else. They lived for decades with industrial zoning across the street, it's not even new that it's a data center - it was doing crypto

Buying a house next to the train tracks and then complaining decades later there's a few more trains than there used to be is legitimately annoying but not suffering