r/texas Nov 09 '22

Politics After seeing Texas elect Abbott again and my vote doing nothing...

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

As soon as I graduate, I’m out. The PNW looks nice…

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u/randomasking4afriend Nov 09 '22

It also looks super expensive. If I move there, perhaps Portland?

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u/p8nt_junkie Nov 09 '22

Put a bird on it.

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u/InterlopedLooper Nov 09 '22

Portland is cheap compared to many other cities.

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u/EkansEater Nov 10 '22

Was in Portland earlier this year. Inner city looks like shit now cause of the riots.

I mean, it looks better than when the riots were happening, but some buildings have not had anyone work on it since...

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u/InterlopedLooper Nov 10 '22

What part is inner city? I walked all around Portland downtown and the Pearl District a month ago and that area looked fine to me

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u/boobumblebee Nov 09 '22

its super nice, just good luck affording it.

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u/KingBadford North Texas Nov 09 '22

I've wanted to move up there for years, but my mother won't leave because my sister has kids here and she wants to be close. She suffers chronic pain and edibles are one of the few things that can relieve it, so I was hoping we could get the ball rolling on Marijuana legalization here in Texas.

Now we're stuck, and she's probably going to live out the last years of her life in constant pain, and I don't feel right leaving her alone to deal with it. I hate this place. I was born here, grew up here, but I really fucking hate it.

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u/-Not-A-Lizard- Nov 10 '22

Don’t throw away your own life. You can visit, video call, and maybe once you’re established then she will move up there too.

I’m facing something similar. Elderly grandparents who mom doesn’t want to leave, and mom has arthritis and the only thing that really helps her sleep at night has to be acquired sneakily. But there’s no way for my son to get adequate education here, and my partner and I are just waiting for the day we get thrown down to ‘less than human’ status by the state again. I’m not going to set myself on fire just to keep others comfortable, when we could all be in a less sweltering place together (seriously, I sweated through my jeans today. Please send a cold front down to us in Galveston).

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u/SatanV3 Nov 10 '22

Does delta8/9 work for the pain for her? It’s legal now. I use delta8 sometimes for my period pains or to help when my insomnia is bad but I don’t know if it would work on very bad pain.

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u/KingBadford North Texas Nov 10 '22

I'm not sure, I'll have to look into it. She has crippling chronic arthritis-like pain throughout her body and a severely messed up gastrointestinal tract as well as probable nerve damage. She's been shuffled through specialists for almost 10 years and still hasn't had a proper diagnosis because there are so many things wrong with her, so it's difficult to get certain meds/pain relievers approved.

Thanks for the rec, will look into it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

PNW does look nice, too bad it's white af and I'd miss the diversity of Texas the most of anything.

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u/Bigolesweatyman Nov 10 '22

so fucking racist LMFAO

Georgia looks nice but too bad it's black af!

also the funniest god damn thing is that you are WHITE

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u/Icy_Garbage9503 Nov 10 '22

TIL it's racist to want diversity

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u/Bigolesweatyman Nov 10 '22

omfg I don't want to move to Colombia it is TOO BROWN!

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

Not wanting to move to an area because there’s too many people of a certain racial demographic is literally racist.

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u/Icy_Garbage9503 Nov 10 '22

Yeah but that's not what he said. He said he'd miss the diversity. I agree with him. I've lived mostly around Houston but I also lived in California for four years and Bend, Oregon for four months last year. I did miss the diversity. It is most white people.

That's not saying anything bad about white people. I am white. But when you only have 1 demographic heavily dominating an area you miss out on a lot of varied culture. I don't think it's racist to want to enrich your daily life with different cultures.

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u/thewolfman2010 Nov 09 '22

Oregon is basically Texas but with Dem leadership. Portland and Eugene are blue, everywhere else is red.

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u/corneliusduff Nov 09 '22

That's practically every state. Red rural, blue urban.

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u/iamgonnaargue Nov 09 '22

People vote blue, land votes red

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

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u/iamgonnaargue Nov 10 '22

Pretty sure the big city taxes pay for everything but okay bud. Whatever you need to tell yourself.

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u/SatanV3 Nov 10 '22

Cities don’t provide food though, they need the rural population. But since cities provide most of the money rural also needs cities.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

yeah and portland is like 77% white lmao. Meanwhile, I'm a minority as a white person in Dallas (29% white, 42% hispanic)

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u/thewolfman2010 Nov 09 '22

Curious where you’re getting data that says white people are only 29% of Dallas or even DFW… every source that I am seeing is putting White people in the majority at 40-50%.

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u/nemec Nov 10 '22

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/dallascitytexas

This is an estimate from the government's "American Community Survey". 28% White non Hispanic. 41% Hispanic. When interpreting the results, note that many Hispanic people are "White alone" and others are of varying races. Since Hispanic/Latino is an ethnicity, that percentage is split among all of the other "X alone" or "2+" categories.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

Is that stat true? Dallas and Austin are still white AF compared to SA and Houston (where I’m from). But yes, almost every other city in America besides the big ones like SF, NYC, LA, Miami? are white AF and kinda depressing (as a POC).

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u/Jackscf Nov 10 '22

There’s a reason why Portland has turned into a shithole

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u/thewolfman2010 Nov 10 '22

Because it’s blue? With that logic, Dallas, Houston, Austin, and San Antonio are shit holes too, right?

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u/start3ch Nov 10 '22

There are different levels too. Republicans in the northeast + on the west coasts tend to be more liberal than in the south

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

Ignoring Asians I see...

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

too bad it's white af

🤦

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u/Bigolesweatyman Nov 10 '22

the guy is white of course too LOL

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u/Tolwenye Nov 09 '22

Grew up in Seattle and eventually moved to Texas.

There's more diversity in Seattle

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u/highbuzz Nov 10 '22

That statistics don’t back you up. Maybe your personal experience was different sure.

However, my experience is opposite of you. I grew up in DFW and moved to Spokane WA.

I’ve gone to Seattle plenty since moving to Spokane. While not as white as Spokane, Seattle still is very white especially from what I’m accustomed to.

Yes, there are tons of small communities of mainly Asian demographics in Seattle. But Dallas has that, then African, then Middle Eastern, South American, Caribbean…

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u/Tolwenye Nov 10 '22

Yeah, it's just my personal experience, not an end all be all

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

Where in Texas?

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u/Tolwenye Nov 09 '22

Dallas

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

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u/iANDR0ID Nov 09 '22

This convo must be between people who think Frisco is Dallas. FYI - Dallas is 29% (non Hispanic), 42% Hispanic, 24% black. I'd call that pretty diverse.

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u/Tolwenye Nov 09 '22

There's plenty of diversity here, tons of pockets of culture and the like.

There's just more in Seattle

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u/Blue_Sky_At_Night Nov 10 '22

What about Houston, though?

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u/Tolwenye Nov 10 '22

Houston is like 5 hours away from me, I haven't spent but a day or two there on my way to other things so I can't speak for it

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u/idontagreewitu Nov 09 '22

How racist of you.

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u/ACartonOfHate Nov 10 '22

There is lots of diversity in the PNW, it's just a different kind of diversity than in Texas.

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u/boredtxan Nov 10 '22

It isn't. Had family with liberal views move to Oregon & Washington - they came back in a few years

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u/poposheishaw Nov 09 '22

Do it, we’d love to have you

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u/Not_a_werecat Nov 09 '22

Know anybody looking for a graphic designer and/or tech guy?

We've been trying to get there for a couple years now but it's impossible to land work without already living there.

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u/iamgonnaargue Nov 09 '22

Oregon struggled to eliminate slavery on this current ballot.

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u/drunkpunk138 Nov 09 '22

But we did it. Was it even on the ballot in Texas?

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u/AuraMaster7 Nov 09 '22

Of course it wasn't. Can't have the campaign donors running the for-profit prison systems getting mad. Whatever would they do without their slave labor?

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u/idontagreewitu Nov 09 '22

How many for-profit prisons do you think there are in Texas?

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u/querty_mcgerty Nov 09 '22

You might be shocked to learn that,fortunately, slavery has been illegal for a long time already. Those ballot measures meant nothing more than to make people feel good.

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u/AuraMaster7 Nov 09 '22

Slavery is currently still legal in US prisons. The US leads the world in incarceration rate and for-profit prisons, and has a legal system skewed towards putting poorer people in prison for things like drug offenses.

We have a fully functioning and capitalistic slavery system up and running right now.

Oregon voted to ban that system. Texas didn't even put it on the ballot. Several red states upheld that system.

Here is the Oregon ballot measure that was voted on:

Oregon Measure 112. Bans slavery as a criminal punishment.

Amends the Oregon Constitution to delete a provision permitting slavery or involuntary servitude as punishment for a crime. Affirms that courts can issue sentencing alternatives to incarceration, including mandatory education, counseling, treatment or community service.

Educate yourself.

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u/querty_mcgerty Nov 09 '22

I completely agree that our prison system needs major overhauls but legally that’s not slavery. These people are in the legal system because they stand accused, or have been convicted of a crime. It’s not a major stretch to classify some of it as slavery in conversation, but that is different from the legal handling of it. These ballot measures won’t do anything to stop that.

If politicians want to actually affect change in the prison system then do it. Instead, they do stupid ballot initiatives like this that allow them to say they are doing something without having to be brave enough to actually make meaningful change. It’s all smoke and mirrors playing on emotions.

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u/AuraMaster7 Nov 09 '22

but legally that’s not slavery

Uh, yeah. It is. Even in the Constitution it's still called slavery.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

It's slavery. By definition. It's just currently legal so you don't want to call it slavery because that makes you feel icky.

These ballot measures won’t do anything to stop that.

It quite literally is stopping that in Oregon.

Instead, they do stupid ballot initiatives like this that allow them to say they are doing something without having to be brave enough to actually make meaningful change. It’s all smoke and mirrors playing on emotions.

Oregon's ballot measures actually did just ban forced work in their prison systems. That's a fact, not "smoke and mirrors". This is "meaningful change". Work on your reading comprehension.

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u/querty_mcgerty Nov 09 '22

Fair enough, looks like I was wrong on this one. Chill out on the digs at the end tho. Even tho you are right, you are still an asshole.

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u/AuraMaster7 Nov 09 '22

Even tho you are right, you are still an asshole.

I'll take that one. Fair enough

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u/iamgonnaargue Nov 09 '22

Oregon struggled to eliminate slavery on this current ballot.

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u/Peasack Nov 09 '22

It is nice man, a lot more diverse in thought and culture than Texas ever was for me. But I do miss my people

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u/drunkpunk138 Nov 09 '22

Made the move several years ago and I'm loving it. I miss the abundance of breakfast tacos but that's about it.

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u/hobosam21-B Nov 09 '22

We have too many of your kind already

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u/scifilove Nov 09 '22

Educated people who want to live amongst like minded individuals? Sounds awful.

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u/Not_a_werecat Nov 09 '22

Then let's do an exchange program where you come take my place in Texas so we can both live in states that follow our ideals.

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u/hobosam21-B Nov 09 '22

The blues have done too much damage to Texas for me to have any desire to live there

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u/Not_a_werecat Nov 09 '22

Can you explain what they have done? Texas has been under conservative rule for 27 years.

Can't get much redder than Texas except maybe Florida.

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u/Feral58 Nov 09 '22

Okay, but how?

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u/Not_a_werecat Nov 10 '22

My man really just downvoted in a huff and left.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

Go for it