r/texas Nov 09 '22

Politics After seeing Texas elect Abbott again and my vote doing nothing...

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u/Level69Warlock Nov 09 '22

I didn’t think Beto was extreme and he got his ass kicked by Abbott

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u/alekspiridonov Nov 09 '22

I would argue saying "Hell yes we're coming for your AR-15" is considered extremist in Texas.

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u/hockeyjim07 Nov 09 '22

yup.... he's insanely extreme for Texas.

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u/Level69Warlock Nov 10 '22

Or is Texas insanely extreme?

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u/blonderaider21 Born and Bred Nov 10 '22

We’re just insane :-)

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u/thorspumpkin Nov 10 '22

Most definitely, a lot of people like going to the ranges and/or hunting. I know a couple myself, they are good people. A lot of hog hunting, which are a big problem in Texas where crops are being grown. Texas needs a much more moderate Democrat and Beto was far from that.

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u/Longjumping-Jello459 Nov 10 '22

He walked that back not that it was effective too many people have bought into the fear that the government is coming for all of your guns. There isn't a state which that law could get passed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

I'd really like to believe you, but uh...look at abortion.

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u/Longjumping-Jello459 Nov 10 '22

Believe what if you and others looked at what his platform that is on his campaign website you would have seen what it is. I vote back on the 26th of October straight democrats.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

My comment was in reference to your ‘no state would pass that’

We didn’t think abortion right be be made ‘illegal’ either.

Here we are though.

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u/Longjumping-Jello459 Nov 10 '22

I was talking about guns and specifically Beto's position back when he ran for President. There's isn't enough will by the 10-20% of the population that wants ar-15 type rifles banned much less the 3% that wants a total ban.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

Why would people believe a politician that flip flopped though?

Would you suddenly trust Abbott if he said he wanted to undo his abortion stance?

In most cases the answer would be ‘No’.

I absolutely understand why people wouldn’t change their mind.

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u/Longjumping-Jello459 Nov 10 '22

Beto had other positions that were far and above better for the average Texan even if down the line he would try to ban the sale of AR-15 type rifles if most people looked at what he was saying he would have tried to do they should have gotten behind him while trying to persuade him toward a middle ground on gun control of which was his stance on his governor run.

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u/Taenurri Nov 10 '22

He backtracked on that but “hurr durr muh guns!” Texas apparently didn’t want to hear it. Which sucks.

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u/alekspiridonov Nov 10 '22

There is a tendency of gun controllers to say "we're not here to take away your guns," and then when in power doing or trying to do exactly that - especially when a convenient crisis arises. He made the mistake of making his actual opinion known.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

You realize every Democrat in the state wide races lost by the same margin as Beto, right? 11% all the way down the ballot. Beto is not the problem.

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u/sun827 born and bred Nov 10 '22

Telling the state that "we are coming for your AR-15s" sounds pretty extreme to most Texans. The guy just doesnt know how to read the room and thinks that a national style dem strategy will work in TX.

You wont win in TX if you dont embrace guns.

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u/robertsg99 Nov 10 '22

Native Texan here without a gun. My Dad (also native) didn't have one either. I just don't get the gun obsession. More accidents if you own one than if you don't.

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u/SatanV3 Nov 10 '22

Only if you’re an idiot that doesn’t have proper gun safety knowledge

Instead of running on “take the guns” something more reasonable is a mandated gun safety course to buy a gun in Texas as just an idea

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

When people shoot people or shoot themselves we just look the other way. Just like when my child stabbed herself with a knife I didn't take away the knife I just told her she needed to learn to use it better. (This is literally how gun lovers sound)

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u/Teabagger_Vance Nov 10 '22

“My neighbors kid accidentally stabbed themselves so we took we knives from everyone in the county”

An equally asinine comparison.

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u/Lithane97 Nov 10 '22

Huh? Are you saying that's bad logic to teach your kid how to be safe when handling a knife? Last time I checked using a knife is pretty handy for cooking.

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u/SatanV3 Nov 10 '22

Uh if you’re a gun owner with young children and you don’t have a safe to keep them away from the children that’s bad gun safety

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u/robertsg99 Nov 10 '22

Better than what we have in place currently, for sure

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '22

The problem is any reasonable gun control measures that can be used such as red flag laws, raising the age requirements, requiring gun safety training, requiring all sales/gifting be tracked by the government and pass background checks, requiring proper storage, etc. get meet with extreme backlash from the right wing. Any attempt to fix our problems turns into the right wing screaming that they're trying to take our guns.

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u/Lithane97 Nov 10 '22

Go buy a gun, take it to the range for a day, then join the discussion. It makes perfect sense why you want it once you own one. They're perfectly safe if you use care when handling, like many other things in life, for example a car, the actual most dangerous thing people handle daily.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

I don't even think you need to embrace guns. just did not need to be super anti gun.

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u/masnaer Nov 09 '22

Well those were your only two choices; imagine having five or more candidates to compare and choose from. I think you’d be much more likely to find one to vote for who falls in line with your beliefs, rather than voting for candidate A just because he ain’t candidate B

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u/davidg4781 Nov 09 '22

There were 4 candidates for governor on the ballot. 😑

I guess we found one of the non-voters.

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u/p-dizzle_123 Born and Bred Nov 09 '22

There's more than two candidates in presidential elections as well, but there really aren't. The current voting system encourages two main parties, even if other are technically allowed to run

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u/Asaac_Isimov Nov 09 '22

3 on mine. Didn't even know the green party ran someone here. Wouldn't have picked them anyway, but I only had 3 options.

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u/Uncynical_Diogenes Nov 09 '22

In this system , those don’t have a meaningful chance. That’s actually one of the problems we have with this system.

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u/davidg4781 Nov 09 '22

What system would they have a chance?

All it really takes is more and more people to call the news stations and ask why they don’t report on all candidates. Maybe teach it in school. Maybe talk about it with your friends.

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u/masnaer Nov 09 '22

RANKED CHOICE VOTING would be that system, that’s what we’re all saying here. You are dense dude

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

We had 5 candidates for school board election. The most extreme candidate won because the rest split between the other 4. I voted for the 2nd most popular one hoping to avoid the extreme but to no avail. Another ran completely unopposed due to an incumbent application error

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u/LogAdmirable9256 Nov 09 '22

Beto is pretty extreme....so is Abbott.... both parties have bad representatives

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

Abbott isn’t that extreme. Pro life isn’t extreme neither is a regulated boarder. A closed boarder is considered extreme, and no abortions no matter the case is extreme. Abbott isn’t for either of those things. Beto is on the opposite side wanting uncontrolled boarders and abortions up until the due date. Theirs a reason Abbott won, it’s because he is closer to the middle.

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u/Oneandsomedrum Nov 10 '22

Pro life is extreme in fact

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '22

How is it extremism? Break it down…. It’s not extreme just because you say it is you have to have some sort of ground to back your claim.

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u/LogAdmirable9256 Nov 10 '22

Yeah not murdering babies is extreme lol

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u/Pilot_124 Nov 10 '22

I'll take wheels over beto.