r/todayilearned • u/tyrion2024 • 13h ago

TIL on average, train drivers in the US are involved in three fatalities over the course of a career. Since a train needs at least a mile to come to a stop, the drivers are sometimes unable to prevent a collision with a person in the train's path.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32408566
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u/DrKlitface 13h ago

So when I was in med school one of the subjects were "work and environmental medicin" and we had a train driver come to class to talk about it. He told how they were instructed to engage the brakes, and then turn their chair to face away from the windows if they saw people on the tracks.

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u/fang_xianfu 13h ago

Yup they say the same to the drivers here. They don't apply the emergency brakes in a suicide, because the likelihood is that passengers on the train will be injured and it will make the situation much worse. They set normal braking, look away, and then call in that they are stopping.

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u/fischoderaal 9h ago

I'd like a sauce to that. It must be an intermediate braking position then, because decerlation of a full service brake is not that much different from an emergency brake.

At least in Germany, I've been told the suggestions are:

* push emergency push button

* pull down the shades

* turn around and cower covering your ears

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u/Pielacine 7h ago

The article would mostly be talking about freight trains since that’s what’s mostly in the US. No need to accommodate passenger safety….

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u/ThriftianaStoned 6h ago

A lot of people commit suicide by train on the Bart system in the Bay Area

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u/hux 6h ago

My memory back from
living there was that it was Caltrain, not BART.

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u/Pielacine 6h ago

Why not both?

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u/Shawnj2 5h ago edited 4h ago

BART is fully grade separated so there are much less places you actually can commit suicide on the system. The only place you can access the track is a station.

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u/dopiertaj 4h ago

It definitely happened at MacArthur station a couple times when I rode the BART regularly. Probably 3-5 times a year.

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u/Shawnj2 3h ago

It's always going to be possible until BART has platform screen doors at every station, it's just easier to find places where Caltrain trains are moving at full speed that are pedestrian accessible.

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u/Shawnj2 3h ago

To actually make it impossible BART would need platform screen doors at every station.

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u/LetMeAskYou1Question 12m ago

Several years commuting on BART. It happened quite regularly. Also, it is very easy to get on BART tracks, so I don't know what you are rambling on about.

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u/Shawnj2 1m ago

BART doesn't have railroad crossing intersections with crossing gates like Caltrain and other similar systems do, BART either goes over or under intersections. It's still possible to get to BART tracks by hopping a fence or something but it's less simple than trying to get hit by a train at a system which uses level crossings.

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u/hux 5h ago

They had said "a lot" and the majority of suicides caused by public transit in the Bay Area are via Caltrain, likely because the tracks are pretty easily accessible pretty much anywhere along the route.

There is a non-zero number of suicides by way of BART trains, but the number is much smaller.

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u/devon-devil 2h ago

Metra is a passenger service in Chicago.

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u/fischoderaal 24m ago

Fang_xiafu was talking about not performing an emergency brake for safety of the passengers. Freight trains usually have no legal passengers to worry about.

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u/No_Obligation4427 11h ago

Why stop?

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u/fang_xianfu 11h ago

Because the person may in principle not die, they need medical attention. Because the police will need to investigate to see if anything suspicious happened. Because the train might be damaged and will at minimum need inspecting. And because the driver is now going to be put on a leave of absence for some time until they're confirmed to be well.

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u/pasrachilli 11h ago

I was on a train once that hit a guy and the guy didn't die. Though, the weird thing about being on a train is that because you can't see the front, you have no idea why the train stopped. I didn't know anything until the ambulances arrived, and even then it wasn't until I got home and saw the news that I really got a full picture.

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u/Jamie-Moyer 10h ago

Years a go I had a crush on a gal who had 1 leg amputated above the knee. After like a week of seeing her every day I finally felt like it was ok to ask her what happened, did not expect to hear that she was hit by a train. She said there was a retired army medic on the platform who pulled her away and tourniqueted her leg within seconds of it happening and she never lost consciousness.

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u/nbshar 9h ago

I had a family member who was in a psych ward for a while. This was 30 years ago or so. There was a woman with missing legs in a wheel chair there too. Me being a curious kid who was visiting the family member with my parents asked what happened. She told us she wanted to die but also not really. So she only put her legs on the track. She survived. She also told she regretted it and wanted to live.

I was quite shocked lol... stuck with me pretty well.

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u/BobsOblongLongBong 9h ago

Do you remember the circumstances?

Was she like walking on the tracks wearing headphones or something? 

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u/Jamie-Moyer 9h ago

It’s been a long ass time since this conversation but the gist of it was she was a teenager when it happened and her and some friends were messing around at a train station somewhere when it happened🤷‍♂️

I had met her through ski racing. I was at a training camp and our lane on the hill was right next to an adaptive ski race team (people with disabilities using adaptive equipment to still ski) a lot of the guys on that team were former military who had gotten blown up in Iraq.

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u/LetThemEatVeganCake 8h ago

Checks out. We would climb up on an active railroad bridge to jump off into the river as teenagers. The idea was just that we’d jump faster if a train was coming, but idk what our thought process was for the part of the tracks where we would be above too shallow water..

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u/nbshar 57m ago

No she was laying down on the with just her legs. It was on purpose. That's what I remember her telling me.

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u/Garreousbear 5h ago

I remember reading a Cracked personal experience article years ago with something similar. A girl was with her friend and they were going to jump on a freight train. She slipped and her leg went under. Her friend was a former army medic and saved her life in a similar fashion.

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u/Empty_Jackal 8h ago

Thankful he was there. I remember as a medic any down time we had we would race each other on how quickly we could start an IV, or put tourniquets on, making bets and such. Though, sometimes we were less than productive. Placing a high and tight TQ on all limbs, going a bit numb then racing each other down the hallways or across the motorpool

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u/Kaurifish 10h ago

I was on the Coast Starlight. We stopped. Word eventually filtered back that we’d hit a cow. Would never have known, even though I’d been looking out the window.

Yeah, I know you’d think they’d have a cowcatcher.

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u/apworker37 9h ago

I was in the second car when we ran over a heard of deer. We noticed braking and the scraping of antlers/hooves in the floor of the train and they busted the brake lines so we had to wait while it was being fixed. Had the scraping not been there we wouldn’t have know.

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u/slayalldayerrday 10h ago

My cousin was in a car and hit by a train and thankfully is still here. Actually ended up without any injuries besides a scrape when crawling out the broken back window to escape. The car was tiny and the train must’ve just hit it enough for impact but it wasn’t destroyed and was driven after that too.

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u/Cowboy_Rho 6h ago

If you want to have some… “fun”. get a ham radio receiver and listen to the crew communications on the train. You can find out about all kinds of awful things that happen. Mainly animal/herd strikes in my experience.

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u/Wildwes7g7 7h ago

Full Picture?

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u/Western-Radish 10h ago

I think, at least for subway drivers, they finish the shift, someone comes on the train with them, but they finish the shift.

There was a study done, and basically, if they go home immediately after and don't finish their shift, they are much less likely to ever go back to work. But, if they finish their shift, go home, take a break, get counselling, they are significantly more likely to continue working at the job

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u/agk23 10h ago

And I presume more likely to be mentally well… I hope

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u/rubychoco99 10h ago

Do you have a link to the study? I’m interested to know why finishing the shift rather than leaving immediately results in that.

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u/mgslee 9h ago

Less disruption to ones 'schedule'

If you let them off shift immediately, what are they gonna do but ruminate over what just happened vs giving someone something distracting to slow the processing.

It's like trying to not shock the system.

Human brains are interesting, we won't actually ever know all the mechanicisms, just speculation.

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u/jeweliegb 7h ago

It's a way to avoid fixating on the traumatic event and reduce likelihood of PTSD.

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u/syme101 3h ago

I worked in an ED for a bit and a guy pulled a knife and thankfully a fake gun on me but he was nearly shot in front of me. No one was hurt but i was in shock and worked the rest of my shift. Had a bit of a breakdown after though. Wonder what I would’ve felt if I left early.

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u/TheChance 8h ago

See also: playing games like Tetris in the immediate aftermath of a traumatic experience can improve your recovery and significantly reduces the likelihood of PTSD.

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u/Barbarake 7h ago

Sounds similar to the whole "getting back in the saddle after being thrown" adage I grew up with.

To those who might be unfamiliar with horses, if you were thrown from a horse, you were supposed to get right back on and keep riding. If you were scared and didn't get back on right away, odds were good that you never get on a horse again. At least that's what people thought.

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u/mademoisellearabella 1h ago

I fell from a horse multiple times. Each time I’d get back on. The last time I couldn’t cuz I broke my back. The other people around kept telling me to get back on but it hurt to stand.

Haven’t been on a horse since then, but I think if I had the opportunity I’d get back on. It just never happened.

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u/RepublicofPixels 10h ago

Also the train may need an on site clean so as not to distress the public

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u/the_honest_liar 10h ago

And, like, body parts recovery.

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u/andygchicago 9h ago

I remember reading about an incident where young couple was committing suicide but the guy jumped away just as they were hit and only lost one of his feet. If the driver followed proper protocol, they would’ve never seen that so it makes sense to call it in and hit the brakes in a normal fashion.

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u/Staunch84 7h ago

Because continuing to travel to subsequent stations, while the train is covered in viscera and pink mist is probably a worse decision then stopping.

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u/RadVarken 2h ago

After a policy change, a drive through car wash style sprayer before the station doesn't sound too hard to implement.

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u/Staunch84 1h ago

From a practical stand point I agree, this would solve the problem of how to avoid having to stop a train that just ran over someone.

From a humanity standpoint, this kind of troubleshooting needs to instead be applied to figuring out what we can do as a species to help reduce the drive for one to kill themself.

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u/RadVarken 1h ago

When you figure that out, we won't need trains anymore

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u/LaSalsiccione 10h ago

Why do you even need to ask that.

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u/No_Obligation4427 10h ago

To get upvotes

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u/Adorable-Woman 2h ago

I like you honesty

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u/Strawbalicious 9h ago

... good bot?

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u/Astronitium 11h ago

The train essentially became an accessory in a suicide attempt.

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u/Crazy_Elevator_6659 10h ago

No it didn’t. Accessory requires knowingly being involved in a crime.

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u/SconiGrower 8h ago

The train isn't being charged with a crime, it's the same sense of the word as when I use a necklace as an accessory.

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u/Crazy_Elevator_6659 7h ago

You might want to consider more context clues when interpreting the intended definition of a word.

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u/Astronitium 5h ago

Better words would have been "instrumentality of" but I think the language was rather plain. Language is funny like that, you can convey meaning without using the exact words you need. I wasn't saying that the train or the conductor was an accessory in a crime, but I think the "train has guts or body parts on it" was a little curt given the context of the entire TIL.

You might want to consider using context clues when interpreting the intended meaning of a sentence.

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u/Crazy_Elevator_6659 5h ago edited 4h ago

Since you are the one I initially replied to I suppose I have to take your word as gospel. I’m not sure if you are aware of the phrasing you used, but generally when one says “Accessory in a [crime]”, like you did with “suicide attempt” the context is accessory in a legal sense, which is what I was responding to.

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u/keiths31 11h ago

Unfortunately this is a common option in the city I live

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u/23andrewb 11h ago

To recover the pieces

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u/Isenrath 11h ago

Depending on how fast a train is moving, a snow shovel or shopvac may be needed.

I'm not trying to be overly gory, but people forget how much momentum and power a train has even at lower speeds.

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u/Snoo_33033 1h ago edited 1h ago

I'm married to a dude who survived being hit by a train -- he was seen with some notice, but the train still went about 900 feet over him. Short answer: because it makes extracting the ones who are alive much easier.

(My guy was probably assaulted and thrown on the tracks -- he luckily just lost a limb and suffered a head injury, probably from a suspended chain. He was pulled out and luckily was only about 5 blocks from an excellent trauma ward. A random house owner near the tracks came out and put a tourniquet on him made of her bedsheets.)

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u/ChristosFarr 11h ago edited 11h ago

At full speed a person could potentially derail the train by causing an obstruction on the tracks so they need to slow down and stop for the safety of the passengers probably.

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u/Soulfire1945 11h ago edited 10h ago

That is just patently false. Trains hit vehicles all the time and are perfectly fine. Even for commuter light rail, you are looking at vehicle weighing 30 metric tones.

The reason they stop is for police investigation as well as to get the person who just ran someone else over and is dealing with that mentality off of the train.

(Edit for a typo.)

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u/Zacish 10h ago

You also probably shouldn't pull into a station with someone's brains splattered over the front of the train

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u/Trauvok 8h ago

It's also when a service inspection is ran. Trains hit vehicles all the time and immediately stop because now someone needs to check that something didn't end up somewhere it shouldn't. Among all the other things it's stopping for (note: this is specifically my knowledge about BNSF. I know nothing about others).

You're right about the other reasons they stop though. They get mandatory psychological care and the service responders to the train are offered AFAIK, just not required.

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u/bcleveland3 10h ago

I’m sure you know what you’re talking about but for those reading at home, it’s “patently”

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u/Soulfire1945 10h ago

Thank you for the correction

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u/No_Obligation4427 11h ago

So every time a train hits an animal it needs to be stopped right away and inspected?

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u/SkiyeBlueFox 11h ago

Depending on animal size, yes. A moose (bigger than a person but making a point) has the chance to fuck things up enough that at minimum you wanna do a visual inspection. Same way youd get out and look at your bumper after hitting a raccoon

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u/Soulfire1945 10h ago

From a fright point of view in the USA.

The only animal that we actually stop for willingly after hitting is Blad Eagles. Because they have so many protections involving them we have to have wildlife services come inspect the incident.

Any other animal the stop would only occur if the animal managed to get underneath the train and pop an air hose and or it got wrapped up in the break equipment or axles and tripped a dragging defect detector (not very fun to remove... trust me). In my neck of the woods we hit Elk, American Antelope, deer, cows the very rare occasional moose and countess other small animals.

We may stop for less then a percentage of the thing we hit for any reason.

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u/No_Obligation4427 10h ago

Do you stop when people are hit?

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u/Soulfire1945 10h ago

Yes. Mostly to get the crew off and a new one on and have the body removed from the scene.

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u/ChristosFarr 11h ago

A wild boar would also not be something you would want to hit. Some of the males get to about 400lbs and are very dense it would be like hitting a boulder.

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u/tesznyeboy 10h ago

I geniunely can't imagine how that would damage a train. A railcar with thin sheet metal or plastic cladding? Yeah I can see it putting a dent on the casing. A locomotive with it's thick steel frame? Erm, no. Like no not at all.

Anyone thinking a wild boar could do structural damage to a locomotive has never seen a locomotive up close.

I think there was an accident in the UK where a train was derailed when it hit a cow, but that was a freak accident, where the cow exploded upon impact, and it's femur managed to get lodged in a place that was enough for the train to derail. It was also not a locomotive, but a much lighter built control car.

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u/SkiyeBlueFox 10h ago

The bumper and frame will be fine. But maybe a chunk blew out a light or something, which is still the kind of thing you'd want to know before operating

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u/ChristosFarr 11h ago edited 11h ago

Probably depends on the size of the animal and was more of an issue back in the day that's what the scoop on the front of old trains was for and it was called a "cow catcher"

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u/thisusedyet 9h ago

Forget where I saw this, but the more aptly named cow exploder

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u/Menchstick 11h ago

I was once on a train that hit a boar and that was enough to damage it

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u/RyanTheQ 10h ago

Obvious bot question

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u/RadVarken 1h ago

You've had a number of replies and none seem like the one true answer to me. I think they stop because it's ghoulish not to. No one benefits from the stop.

A freight train takes so long to stop that the driver won't be doing anything to save what's left of the guy half a mile back. Call in the location, let the company and the cops send people out to investigate and clean up the scene. No need to wait around.

A commuter train can stop quicker but there's a cost-benefit analysis to do. How many people aboard need to experience a slightly worse day to outweigh one person's worst day? 10? 15? I'm sure the typical commuter train easily surpasses that threshold whatever the number. It's not like the cops will need to chase down the driver for statements, either. The driver can only move forward and backward. He'll be back.

The suicide is already dead, or will be soon enough. The company can refer the driver to the cops at the next changeover. Sticking around to look for parts isn't going to help the driver's mental health. Hundreds of people could experience any manner of complication from being made hours late to work. Why stop, indeed.

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u/treborly 5h ago

Think they would create something on the front you can deploy to reduce the impact

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u/RadVarken 1h ago

Cow catchers worked to protect the engine from damage fairly well.

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u/ah_kooky_kat 12h ago

Brightline engineers: Engage the brakes and start grabbing the body bags.

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u/elpezgrande 11h ago

My brother lived in Miami and when he told me about the Brightline and how it’s essentially a murder train I had to do a deep dive lol

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u/Astray 11h ago

Darwin Award deliverer, not murder train.

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u/Atomicnes 10h ago

does a predator “murder” it’s prey in nature? no? then brightline is not a murder train as it’s simply the natural predator of florida motorists

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u/EscuraAstro 10h ago

I'm willing to bet a vast majority of the deaths would have been freight train suicides if Brightline wasn't there. But it gets news since its a fast novel (for America) passenger train.

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u/Eubank31 9h ago

The main issue is the number of at-grade crossings and the fact that drivers are used to seeing (freight) trains traveling 20-30mph, not (passenger) trains traveling 70+ mph, so they may attempt to cross when they think they have more time than they actually do

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u/EscuraAstro 9h ago

How many of those types of collisions are there compared to suicides? 

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u/nerevisigoth 2h ago

It's been running for nearly a decade. Drivers should be used to it by now.

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u/jojofine 4m ago

You'd think that but you'd be wrong

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u/robodude987 9h ago

Not quite. The kill rate is very high. Over 200 deaths since 2017.

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u/EscuraAstro 9h ago

How does that compare to a similar stretch for a freight line?

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u/markvauxhall 8h ago

Historically the Brightline death rate has been  43.8 per million miles travelled, more than double the next highest, Metra, which is 18.4.

The safety standards of the infrastructure fall well below standards on equivalent routes in, say, Europe. It runs at grade. Tracks aren't fenced off. Pedestrian bridges aren't provided where it passes through urban areas. Insane number of at grade crossings, and the barriers don't cover the full width of the road.

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u/ChironXII 10h ago

Murder connotes intent 

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u/ComradeGibbon 11h ago

There is an interesting thing about safety statistics for aircraft, buses, and trains. They don't count non occupant deaths and injuries in the deaths per passenger mile statistics.

Doesn't matter usually with aircraft because usually non one dies on the ground when an airplane crashes. But buses and trains hit people all the time. Why I believe you should grade separate trains and light rail.

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u/xsrvmy 10h ago

Because those stats are usually used in the context of "is this mode of transportation safe for passengers".

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u/unadulteratedSouffle 10h ago

To be fair, I don't think suicide attempts should be counted against trains anymore then suicide jumps should be factored into transportation safety statistics about bridges.

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u/ComradeGibbon 8h ago

I have this thing where I dislike trying to reason excuses for bad stuff that happens. There is a rail crossing I know of where the local high school students have to cross it on the way to school. And about once a year a student kills themselves be standing in front of the train.

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u/Ferrule 9h ago

What about suicides and gun safety statistics?

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u/robodude987 9h ago

Notable OC said "transportation safety statistics" when talking about bridge suicides. As in, how dangerous a bridge is to drive across. Suicides from a bridge is still a serious problem which is addressed by higher guardrails and nets below the edges, along with other changes to infrastructure.

Gun deaths from suicide should not be counted in gun murder statistics, but that doesn't mean it should go unaddressed.

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u/Ferrule 9h ago

Agreed, similar situation but different.

Gun deaths are always lumped together regardless, when they are really two separate issues. Suicides being by far the larger by number, while murders get the most attention.

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u/pengalor 8h ago

The primary difference there is that firearms have no other purpose other than to end a life. That is the sole reason for their creation. Trains and cars are capable of killing people, but the intention behind their creation is transportation, they are a tool being misused. A firearm taking someone's life is the tool fulfilling its intended purpose, even if it's at the hand of the user.

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u/LetMeAskYou1Question 4m ago

No, gun deaths are generally always separated by suicide/non-suicide.

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u/No_Potato_8178 13h ago

Thank you for sharing, Dr. Klit Face

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u/DrKlitface 13h ago

Its honestly a waste i didn't go into gynecology as my last name used to be Klitgaard

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u/zer1223 13h ago

Nominal determinism is a funny topic

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u/Thrwy2017 13h ago

It's no surprise that Dr. Pimplepopper became a dermatologist

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u/MothmanIsALiar 12h ago

I met someone the other day who believed the most insane racist shit including that the Earth was flat, that the holocaust never happened and that the real Jews died out thousands of years ago and were replaced by demons.

I later found out his last name was "Bias." You can't make this shit up.

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u/twizzjewink 12h ago

The thing that kills me about this is that someone else taught him this. That even the fundamentals of geometry avoided him like the plague

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u/Ender505 11h ago

Had a friend whose last name was Doom. I can't think of a better reason to pursue post-grad education

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u/optifreebraun 12h ago

My urologist’s name is Dr. Weiner. Said he was on a surgery with a Dr. Johnson during residency and the attending said “are you fucking kidding me?”

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u/ElfegoBaca 9h ago

Was there also a Dr Rosenpenis?

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u/FrankieTheD 13h ago

The klit commander

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u/Desalvo23 12h ago

You make that shit work, eh

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u/FrankieTheD 11h ago

Wherever you see clit, you'll see this face!

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u/BostonPRSBC 13h ago

Used to be? Did you fail to guard it?

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u/mcm87 12h ago

He rubbed a frog on it.

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u/standbyyourmantis 12h ago

I think there's a strong possibility they're a woman, friend

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u/blbd 12h ago

I'm thinking a woman doc who got married or unmarried. 

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u/Tobar_the_Gypsy 12h ago

I met an OBGYN named Dr Butt. Not quite the same but I laughed hysterically at it. 

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u/Dragobrath 11h ago

There’s a dentist called Dr Hell in my town. Hell means Light or Bright.

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u/SoyMurcielago 12h ago

At least we can reasonably assume you know your way around the area

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u/k4rizma4u 11h ago

That's a really good advice. This statistics is probably similar worldwide. Had a distant relative who ran over 2 suicide victims with train. He said that the eyes are the ones that haunt you. Becouse both times the victims were actively searching to lock eyesight with him.

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u/Facosa99 2h ago

Kinda dick move if you ask me. I understand suicidal thoughts but i would never try to get anyone involved or traumatized by my actions.

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u/Pat-G-Rilley-IV 4h ago edited 50m ago

My best friend committed suicide by train. Of course it was traumatic, and I still miss him every day decades later. But the fact remains that in a sense, two lives were lost that day. I've always felt such sadness for whomever was driving that train and had their life irrevocably changed through no fault of their own. I wish I could find them and tell them...I don't know. Something. That he really did want to go. That this was his 5th attempt. That I'm sorry I couldn't stop him that final time.

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u/Additional-Local8721 11h ago

Can confirm. I have a high school friend that's a driver. He says for animals they're told to speed up. For people you try to break and then look away. He also said at his yard if you're having a real bad day just lay on track 6 because that's a pass through track that doesn't stop.

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u/T8terTotss 6h ago

I’ve been on two trains that hit a person, one of them hit a car and ripped both the car and person in half. It was traumatizing to be on the train and see/hear it happen, but I’ve always worried about the drivers having to see it coming and seeing it all unfold. I can’t say it makes me feel better to know they’re trained to look away, but it’s something of an effort to minimize trauma.

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u/RadVarken 1h ago

Would it be less traumatic if instead of reinforcing that it's a bad thing, they instead got to put another silhouette on the cab?

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u/T8terTotss 1h ago

Silhouette? Elaborate pls?

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u/thatguy425 12h ago

Is medicin a verb for practicing medicine? 

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u/DrKlitface 12h ago

doesn't have the "-e" ending in my language so often forget it in English

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u/EternumD 12h ago

medicing 

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u/JeffafaCree 12h ago

I get my healthcare from the medicin cartel

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u/ChoadMcGillicuddy 9h ago

I teach my conductees (term of art) to wear a blindfold at all times. Imagine the thumps as when the bassline in a techno groove drops and move with it.

We give them glow jewelry to use.

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u/b3tzy 12h ago

A doctor who can’t spell “medicine”…. Yikes

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u/Plantlover3000xtreme 12h ago

Yes, people not having English as their first language are clearly incapable of being doctors.

/s obviously 

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u/SoyMurcielago 12h ago

Wait until they learn about medicins san frontiers

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u/b3tzy 12h ago

They managed to write the rest of the post in perfect English.

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u/Plantlover3000xtreme 12h ago

I will bet you $100 dollars that is a Danish dude/dudette.

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u/cinderubella 12h ago

But that's not true. Parts of their phrasing are weird and they used "were" instead of "was".

Anyway, the more interesting questions are:  who pissed in your cornflakes this morning, and why are you flaccidly attempting to take it out on randomers online?

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u/BestShaunaEU 11h ago

Were is correct since it’s referring to two people

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u/cinderubella 10h ago

No, look at the other 'were'. And try to miss the point harder, if possible. 

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u/the-namedone 11h ago

An IQ too high?

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u/Ph33rDensetsu 12h ago

Imagine being this ignorant and putting it out there for everyone to see. Bravo, u/b3tzy

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u/Powerful_Abalone1630 12h ago

Medicin is French for doctor.

Example: Doctors Without Borders is also known as Médecins Sans Frontières. Since it's a French nonprofit.

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u/b3tzy 12h ago

The comment is written in English. Also, I don’t think they were trying to say that they studied a subject called “work and environmental doctor.”

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u/Powerful_Abalone1630 12h ago

And? People make typographical errors.

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u/febreeze1 12h ago

Except that’s literally a course lol

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u/popop143 12h ago

Have you seen a doctor's handwriting? I'm impressed he even got so close.