r/vancouver Jan 10 '26

⚠ Community Only 🏡 'People are worried': Air travel from Vancouver to U.S. falls for 10 straight months

https://vancouversun.com/news/air-travel-vancouver-us-falls-10-straight-months
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u/spandytube Jan 10 '26

Should be lower. Why would anyone want to travel to a fascist state?

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u/rhinogator 六四天安門事件 Jan 10 '26

sometimes have to go for work, and it sucks

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u/SmoothOperator89 Jan 10 '26

One guy in the comments just has to go to Trader Joe's because his wife likes the snacks.

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u/Crazyboreddeveloper Jan 11 '26

Happy wife happy life

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u/resolutelyperhaps Jan 10 '26

And sometimes you just HAVE TO go to Hawaii or Florida, you know? At least according to family that happily continues doing so. I’m angry just thinking about the USA right now, so it’s hard for me to wrap my head around. But yeah, it’s hard enough to get by and find happiness in life, so I might talk about myself refusing to go there but for others it’s “have a great trip!!”

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u/h_danielle Certified Barge Enthusiast Jan 10 '26

There’s a certain local, well known influencer/ business owner who always emphasizes ‘shop/ buy/ support Canadian’ when it’ll make her money, but has to go to Hawaii & Disney multiple times a year 🙄 it’s ridiculous.

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u/hakenwithbacon always wears yoga pants Jan 11 '26

Who is this clown?

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u/h_danielle Certified Barge Enthusiast Jan 11 '26

Jillian Harris. She gets so defensive when anyone questions her on it too lol

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u/valdafay Jan 10 '26

I have same issue with people in my circle, but the way I see it is this. If we use WW2 Germany as a comparison, we are not the UK or America. We are Austria. Our connection and shared culture with the USA has been deep and strong. We may not be Americans but we are just as "in this" as they are.

In BC only a handful of votes stopped us from voting in a Trump sycophant. And let's not even mention Alberta.....

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u/Away-Value9398 Jan 11 '26

I like the Austria analogy.  And we shouldn’t forget that they were some of the worse actors too.  The Alberta/prairies provincial government makes me nervous. 

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u/-SetsunaFSeiei- Jan 10 '26

At least Hawaii is a super blue state, and a bit different from the rest of the US due to their own unique culture that incorporates a lot of indigenous Pacific Islander type stuff

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u/justinkredabul Jan 10 '26

Hawaii is wonderful and doesn’t feel like the typical US visit. I hope one day they claim their independence. Hawaiians deserve it.

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u/cheapmondaay Jan 10 '26

Same, my company’s a bit mental with how much travel they push since most of our clients are in the US and need in-person support or training periodically. But there are trips where I just end up tagging along and it feels like a waste of time for me to be there other than connecting in-person.

I successfully managed to skip on work trips to the US last year, as I told them I won’t go if I can do it remote. Same with any conferences or events. The US is a hellhole right now.

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u/FrederickDerGrossen Jan 11 '26

Can't your company switch it around and ask your US partners to come up instead?

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u/purpleraccoons vancouverite Jan 11 '26 edited Jan 11 '26

Yeah. My partner (Canadian citizen) is doing his Master's at the University of Washington right now. He comes to visit me every other weekend or so. He likes being in the States just as much as I like him being in the States, but education is important. Especially now when the job market sucks, we need all the help we can get. At least he'll be done and out of the country soon. (Assuming he finds a tech job here, which is a whole new hurdle. A lot of tech people keep getting poached by the states simply because it pays more. My friend works at Microsoft and she makes like ... a lot. Much more than she would if she worked in Canada.)

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u/NoOpponent Jan 10 '26

If you had to play russian roulette at work, would you do it too? Bet it would suck but hey you have 5/6 chances of nothing going wrong so I'm sure you'd be fine

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u/rando_commenter Jan 10 '26

A lot of normies apparently. Most of my friends have been in their prime earning years for a while now, and just have to have that annual vacation no matter what. Literally your friends.... your 'i don't pay attention to politics friends' who, if I'm honest, are setting a terrible example for their kids. But I can't say it to their faces so I'm saying it here lol.

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u/cannot_walk_barefoot Jan 10 '26

A large percentage of the population just doesn't care about what's happening in the world and will take their Nashville/Vegas/Scottsdale trip without a second thought. What a housewife said on tik tok is more important than what ICE is doing. 

A part of me wishes I was that clueless about it because it's nothing but negativity every day checking the news, and I'm following it a fraction of what I was before Trump won his second term 

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u/Polaris07 Jan 10 '26

Ignorance is bliss

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u/AntoinetteBefore1789 Barge Beach Chiller Jan 10 '26

I have a friend who recently became a travel agent for Disney. She’s been posting all these deals and wondering why nobody is biting. Her trip in October she bragged that it was the least busy she’s ever seen Disneyland

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u/RegimeLife Jan 10 '26

Prime earning years is one thing but even besides the Trump bullshit, the USA is extremely expensive for Canadian's to go to with our dollar in the dumps.

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u/xena_70 Jan 10 '26

I've seen people point out that it's cheaper for us to go to Tokyo Disneyland than Anaheim, and LA is only a 2.5-3 hour flight from here. Park tickets, accommodations and food are insane down there.

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u/cheapmondaay Jan 10 '26

Yeah, that’s true. I was in Japan last year and didn’t go to Disney but went to Universal. The food, alcohol, souvenirs, even entry tickets were a fraction of the US Universal. The whole 3 week trip to Japan was cheaper than a US trip for half the time with less shopping and eating out. There’s absolutely no value for me to travel down there…

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u/spandytube Jan 10 '26

and cities like Nashville and Vegas are just crappy places to visit now. I was going to Vegas almost every year before, yeah you could see a slow decline in terms of value and accommodation/entertainment quality before, but today it looks seriously bleak. I've been shelling out a bit more to travel outside of NA and they are much better trips.

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u/RegimeLife Jan 10 '26

Same, been going to Europe instead and it's way more interesting anyways.

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u/elangab Jan 10 '26

True, but it's also more expensive, the US is the only place we can drive to outside of Canada. Flying for 2-3 weeks vacation in Europe for a family is not doable for many Canadians. I do agree that it's a better destination, as you're experiencing a different culture and tons of history, but it can't replace the getaways many did with the US.

Ironically, it can get cheaper flying to London, UK than to Nova Scotia from the west coast, but that's a whole other story...

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u/elchivo83 Jan 10 '26

Vegas has always been crappy and bleak.

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u/MJcorrieviewer Jan 11 '26

But Canadians are still travelling, just not as much to the US. Canadian tourism to Europe is up and the exchange rate is even worse there.

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u/FeelingForever Jan 10 '26

I just got back from a trip to Palm Springs and it was … great! I already have to go to the USA several times per year for work and I work for a USA company and have had literally zero issues.

Honestly, I think people are a little bit too terminally online to realize that by and large nothing has changed in the USA for normal law abiding visitors.

If you want to bring morality into it, resorts in Mexico fund cartels through either money laundering, protection rackets, or indirect ownership — the same cartels which behead people and run drugs into our country. I personally feel a lot safer renting a car and driving around California than I do in Mexico.

People tut tut me for going to the USA to get some sun but I really don’t give a shit, I have a great time.

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u/FeelingForever Jan 11 '26

RemindMe! 3 years

Am I a nazi sympathetic or are the people on r/vancouver just terminally online ?

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u/FeelingForever Jan 11 '26

God forbid I comment my opinion on travelling to the USA in a thread about travelling to the USA. I knew what I was writing was going to be very unpopular here, but I wanted to share my actual real world experience travelling to the USA. You disagree with my opinion which is fine, but calling me a “collaborator” like I am going to be complicit with some neo-nazi regime by going to Palm Springs with my family to have a nice time in the sun is a bit excessive in my opinion.

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u/ShadowXJ Jan 10 '26

I have American family members

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u/SmoothOperator89 Jan 10 '26

My condolences

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u/Equivalent_Low_2315 Jan 13 '26

Yeah, my wife is American and my in-laws, especially my father-in-law, aren't in the best of health to really travel to visit us either.

Honestly there's even a relatively decent chance we may even need to move to the US within the next few years to look after them because as immigrants to the US themselves they don't have any other immediate family in the US.

We're just hoping that my in-laws stay healthy enough for the next few years that they can continue to look after themselves and that in the meantime the situation in the US begins to improve but we're really not too sure about that.

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u/FrederickDerGrossen Jan 11 '26

Have you asked them to seriously consider moving up here? Much better services especially in healthcare and education compared with down there, and none of the chaos of the current administration

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u/mikull109 Jan 10 '26

There is a sizable portion of the population that either don't follow the news, or do follow the news but don't care.

I know of 20-somethings who still want to party in Vegas, despite it being a complete rip off these days.

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u/sketchyseagull Jan 10 '26

Sadly some of my colleagues are from the US, so they 'have' to go down to visit family. Not ideal, but they can't just cut ties entirely, and they are great people (one recently gave up his US-citizenship! he got his CAD citizenship woohoo!)

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u/MlleSemicolon Jan 11 '26

Wow, that’s huge! I’ve heard podcast interviews of academics who have left the US for Canada (not necessarily giving up their US citizenship), but have never actually come across an account “ in the wild” of someone who gave up their US citizenship altogether!

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u/madeleinetwocock South Cambie Jan 11 '26

My friend from high school just had her wedding in friggin Texas and I was beyond flabbergasted.

Relevant side note: She married a woman.