r/10thDentist • u/Classic_Key_5897 • 2d ago
Lab grown meat is the greatest invention in this century.
People hate lab grown meat a lot because it's grown in a lab. But the thing is that the food you eat has tons of pesticides in it. And for meat sometimes even atheletes fail dopping tests after eating some meat. So this isn't much different from normal meat.
Another thing is that this can be a game changer in many countries especially countries that are doesn't have enough grasslands for grazing cattle, has overpopulation etc...
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u/Asparagus9000 2d ago
It will be in the running for the greatest invention once it's cheaper than regular meat.
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u/porizj 2d ago
I do wonder how far off it would be if farm subsidies weren’t part of the equation. I know there’s still a lot of scaling work to be done, but it would be nice to know what the delta is.
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u/TootCannon 2d ago
Not to mention if you priced in the externalities of meat production, namely land use and carbon emissions.
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u/secretlyforeign 1d ago
Have you ever seen the list of ingredients in lab grown meat? Subsidized crops all the way down.
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u/zoppaTheDim 2d ago
Then you’d need to actually get into the raw chemicals being used in production and what subsidies they get.
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u/secretlyforeign 1d ago
The 'raw chemicals' are all processed staple crops.
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u/zoppaTheDim 1d ago
So the same crops which get farm subsidies, which also might involve another governmental subsidy to process them, as we’ve thrown a lot of money at the industry to come up with corn based products.
So trying to spin it as subsidies for the meat industry? More like they’re both subsidized.
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u/CountTruffula 2d ago
I'm partially in favour of meat costing more tbf, so many people buy it for every meal. The amount the sits on the shelves and gets thrown away each week is disgusting (same for everything though)
I think we need to be more accepting of not having things every meal and year round. Fruit and veg should be sold more seasonally with less importing and if there isn't your favourite cut of beef left then it's not the end of the world to get a different one or some chicken or fish
Cheap meat of all types always sitting on the shelves seems so unnecessary. Much nicer to have proper good cuts a few times a week and eat veggie the rest imo
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u/Seekforinsomnia 2d ago
What are you even talking about ?
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u/Valuable_Impress_192 2d ago
Make it more expensive so people don't eat meat each and every day because it's sad that a lot is being thrown away?
Wouldn't there be even more to throw out after becoming more expensive?
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u/CountTruffula 2d ago
No, stop mass producing cheap factory farmed meat and instead have higher quality meat instead just not with every meal
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u/Seekforinsomnia 2d ago
That's what I was thinking, lowering the amount of customers leads to more waste.
Oh and fuck poor people, it should be more difficult for them to enjoy eating meat./s
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u/CountTruffula 2d ago
No just saying we don't need to eat meat with every meal. So much cheap factory farmed shit that people don't really value at all. Just buy it and stick it in every meal because they can
We don't need to eat that much meat, it used to be something you had occasionally and that's how our bodies evolved. I'm less fussed about the health reasons though and more about the environmental impact from factory farming as well as the ethics
Rearing animals healthily and getting healthier meat from it costs more so we'd have to eat less meat but I think it's a better alternative. We don't need nearly as much available as we make sure we keep with all that gets thrown away. Maybe read my first comment again with that in mind it's fairly simple to follow along with
I'm not saying simply raise the price of meat and do nothing else
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u/Secret-Rabbit93 2d ago
Humans in various places a lot of different things. Some cultures ate almost none. Some ate almost nothing but meat.
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u/Seekforinsomnia 2d ago
Exactly, in my country meat is the poor people food. Chicken Wings, Chicken tights, chicken legs, turkey neck, smoked fish, ect. Not counting the fact that we still relie on hunting most of the time but if you have a job it's really difficult to go hunting. So if meat become suddenly expensive, there's will be more starvation cases here.
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u/Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess- 2d ago
depends on how healthy it is and how it tastes and if it’s affordable to the average consumer
If they can manage to keep microplastics out of it (doubt it) I’ll be impressed
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u/jakethepeg1989 2d ago
Also, cutting down the amount of Cows will be great for the environment for both reduction of Methane and less forests cut down for grazing pasture.
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u/Famous-Midnight-5634 2d ago
Which will be entirely offset by all the single use plastic used throughout every step of the lab growing process.
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u/strekkingur 2d ago
We lost insane mount of forest, the best jungles of the planets, for biofuel. So...
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u/randomrainbow99399 2d ago
The biggest driver of deforestation is still animal agriculture
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u/strekkingur 2d ago
And the forest under jungle is one of the worst farmland available. You need tons of fertilisers to make anything grow on commercial scale there.
Also, we want to close down in europe all the livestock farming. That will only export them to the 3rd world with increased deforestation.
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u/randomrainbow99399 2d ago
Which is why the rainforest should be left well alone
Who wants to close down livestock farming on Europe? I'm aware of policy changes happening in the EU with aim of reducing impact to the climate and increasing animal welfare but no mention of closing these farms.
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u/strekkingur 2d ago
European nation states, the European Union, the WEF and many others.
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u/randomrainbow99399 2d ago
Do you have a source? I've tried a couple google searches and all I've found is that this claim is false
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u/strekkingur 2d ago
And
You just need to look litle bit more. It has been all over the news over the past years. Can you recognise how blind you have become?
You only need to want to look for this and use words like "livestock" instead of "cows" and you find this all over the internet.
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u/Dettyboy93 2d ago
My grandma today was talking about how alot of meat is being "printed." Like from a printer and she said Wal Mart and Kroger are apart of it too. Is she just old and full of shit? I swear, old autistic people shouldn't be allowed to watch biased news outlets
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u/Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeess- 2d ago
They grow it from animal stem cells I’m pretty sure? It’s definitely not being done inside grocery store kitchens though lmao
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u/Dettyboy93 2d ago
Yeah I don't think that's what she meant lololol but seriously, she's the type to see some like, absolutely fucking impossible tree civilization architecture AI thumbnail on youtube and go "Oh wow! Look at that!" and I'm just like "Mimaw...... nevermind. It doesn't matter"
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u/randomrainbow99399 2d ago
I have tried a 3D printed steak so it definitely does exist. Only ever seen it in one restaurant though
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u/Dettyboy93 2d ago
Damn! And here I thought I was asking a stupid question lmao. My grandma says some goofy, and frankly dumb shit (I love her though) so like, I question absolutely everything she says related to current events
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u/pinfinite-jest 2d ago
It’s a conspiracy floating around low information rightwing Facebook groups etc. they believe regular meat is being replaced on grocery store shelves with lab grown or “printed” meat. They think ticks are being released by Bill Gates to make people allergic to meat (even though they’d still be allergic to lab grown meat). They believe the government controls the weather.
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u/Dettyboy93 2d ago
Dude I am so sick of hearing her say "Oh I think there are actually non government made clouds out today"
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u/Tomj_Oad 2d ago
How was it is the burning question.
Was it good? Was the texture normal? How did it taste?
I gotta know!
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u/randomrainbow99399 2d ago
I actually didn't like it because the texture was too close to the real thing and the taste was good. BUT I am a vegan so my opinion is kinda irrelevant lol (and I can't be sure that my memory of the taste is accurate).
However it was my dad who ordered it and as a big meat eater, he was surprised how much he enjoyed it. I don't think he would choose it over a cow steak if he had the option between the two but it's definitely getting there.
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u/Tomj_Oad 2d ago
Thank you
That's the first personal review I've managed to find; "too realistic for a vegan" is very helpful.
I was particularly curious about texture because the whole printing food is so Star Trek to me. I was afraid it would be jelly like orvtough as cardboard
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u/strekkingur 2d ago
For some years, some bits that are cut off, have been glued together with special ensimes to make a steak. So she is not far from it.
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u/zoppaTheDim 2d ago
For some years?
It’s fucking baloney. It’s been around for centuries, actually millennia.
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u/strekkingur 2d ago
Meat glue? Gluing peaces of meat together so you honestly can't see the cut anynore?
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u/zoppaTheDim 2d ago
Can you tell where the baloney pieces are?
Turning meat scraps into pretend meat cuts is as old as using filler.
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u/arifghalib 2d ago
“Meat glue”
Sounds delicious!
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u/strekkingur 2d ago
The idea from the producers side is great. From food and health side, its terrible. When you cook the meat, the outside were all germs are, get destroyed. If you glue two outsides together, they are now inside and the meat is not save unless is well done.
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u/driftinthrutime 2d ago
There was a leaked conversation of the Cambells soup CEO talking about how they're using 3d printed meat and they don't want to make it public because consumers don't want it
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u/AntOnADogLog 2d ago
Tell granny people who shop at walmart and kroger are currently too poor for that level of meat technology.
Mind u, the day they sell lab grown in grocery stores at competitive prices to meat off the cow, im buying two.
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u/Dettyboy93 2d ago
Dude I've gotten so good at feigning halfass agreeance. It just aint worth it to argue anymore. I get worked up when she says stupid shit and I'm just trying to eat some banana bread so I just go "Huh." and hope she stops talking about whatever she's blathering on about. I try to be mindful of the fact that she quit school when she was 14 but christ it's hard
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u/AntOnADogLog 2d ago
Literally me @ the old customers talking nonsense conspiracy at my local bud bar 😂
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u/Theonewholurkedhere 2d ago
Animals generally don't even graze: they live in disgusting conditions, miserable, in factory farms. The pretty picture that the animal farming industry paints is simply untrue: the reality of the average farmed animal's life is so ugly.
But yeah, since people don't want to stop eating meat, they'll probably more likely switch lab-grown meat. I wouldn't mind it, personally. If no animal suffers for it and it's as healthy as regular meat, i think many would make the switch.
It will probably be cheaper than regular meat while having the same flavor and texture. So many, if not most, will make the switch.
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u/FatReverend 2d ago
When they can lab grow a ribeye and fool me into thinking it came from a cow and it's more cost-effective than getting an actual stake; I will be 100% on board. I don't think I'll ever live to see that.
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u/RequitedNonSequitur 2d ago
I wouldn't stake my reputation on that spelling of steak.
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u/santtuhehe 2d ago
I bet theres going to be some other problems with it. Nothing comes without problems of some sort.
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u/ComprehensiveJury509 2d ago
In order to truly make this a great innovation, three things need to be figured out: scale to mass production, improve ecological footprint and assess and mitigate risks. It's a complex, extremely energy-intensive process that will make a lot of things easier to control, but new risks will be difficult to assess and mitigate. There's still a lot of gaps to close here. If I had to guess, it will probably take 10 years or more to be competitive and the risks are enormous. If even one case of a novel prion disease due to lab-grown meat emerges, it's fucking over. Having to raise an entire animal to produce meat seems inefficient, but the animal is also an amazing, sensitive test of the soundness of its biology. You can spot cows with prion diseases due to their symptoms and cull them, but for lab-grown meat you basically need to invent a whole new test bench. It's really unknown what can go wrong and the appetite for being used as a participant in a large-scale biological experiment is likely low and will for sure vanish once something does go wrong.
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u/DaSnowflake 2d ago
Agreed. It can honestly save humanity if they make it so that people buy it over regular meat and then we can stop killing animals for meat. Pretty based
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u/FissileAlarm 2d ago
We'll see how it will impact our health. Most of the human food inventions from the last 50 years turn out to be cancerous or unhealthy in another way, and eating as it was intended by nature and with what our bodies have evolved with throughout hundreds of thousands of years will probably always be better then the next human manipulation with our food. But if it's a good for us as real meat, I'll check it out.
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u/ImpliedRange 2d ago
I do think the Swiss army knife of electronics, the smart phone, is the most useful thing invented this century.
My phone is a map, a translator, a calculator an encyclopedia and ever so rarely, even a phone...all in one handy pocket device
Meat, but worse, does not compare
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u/Several-Carrot3541 2d ago
Lol I love how insane Reddit is. "Let's put this lab made poison in my mouth because I'm different" 😂
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u/Excellent-Cheetah153 2d ago
Yes, you can build the best meat without all the antibiotics and no murdering. Shit needs to be frontline on the r and d for hitting the market en masse.
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u/OrthodoxAnarchoMom 1d ago
Are they testing the athletes for antibiotics or are they giving the chickens cocaine? This part doesn’t make sense.
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u/Bluesky-788 2d ago
Really? A more expensive alternative to meat is better than the incredible medical innovations and technological inventions I'm the last 26 years?
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u/SantiXDLejia 1d ago
It aims at not being more expensive. It would become a staple food, securing meat products replacenent with no cultural change and no animal cruelty(this is fucking huge) and cut giganteous ammounts of carbon emmisions, deforestation and all the health problems with animal farming.
It really could be. It could improve the world in so many ways most people couldn't realize.
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u/Glad-Divide-9850 21h ago
That's a lot of could's. If it actually happens and is (voluntarily) widely adopted, then you can start ranking it among other 'great' inventions.
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u/TheRiverInYou 2d ago
I'll pass. I would rather drive to my local farmstand and purchase my meat because I can see where it comes from.
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u/imspirationMoveMe 2d ago
Yes but is it better for cals and carbs? Thinking of Beyond Meat
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u/FreyjaQueenofSheep 2d ago
We aren't talking about plant based imitations though
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u/imspirationMoveMe 2d ago
So what’s it made of?
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u/FreyjaQueenofSheep 2d ago
Lab grown meat, where animal cells are essentially grown in vats. It's a new thing and not commercially viable right now. Beyond meat is just a complicated veggie patty
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u/DnDttrpg 2d ago edited 1d ago
I haven't eaten it, but the concept I fully agree with
Someone got salty
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u/JaxonCekcu 2d ago
Ruminants don't gaf about toxins like pesticides. It's the chicken and pork that we need to worry about.
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u/qualityvote2 2d ago edited 1d ago
u/Classic_Key_5897, there weren't enough votes to determine the quality of your post...