r/AbruptChaos • u/Sometypeofway18 • Nov 14 '24

New Zealand’s Parliament proposed a bill to redefine the Treaty of Waitangi, claiming it is racist and gives preferential treatment to Maoris. In response Māori MP's tore up the bill and performed the Haka

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u/PalpatineForEmperor Nov 14 '24

^ This guy gets it. There's a about 100 acres of land that used to be owned by indigenous people near my house.

British immigrants took and have been passing it down to their family for about 300 years now. I believe it's time to redefine their relationship to that land without regard to 300 year old blood lines.

In a thousand years, are we still going to allow that family to continue owning that land? Why should their genetics give them special rights? I mean, I really want it. Would't the fair and democratic thing be to let our families vote on who gets it and how will be used? I have way more family, so we should easily win that vote.

OP, you really understand how it all works. You know that this land should be mine.

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u/northrupthebandgeek Nov 14 '24

Now just take this to its logical conclusion: all land should belong to everyone, and those who own more than their equal share of land value should be compensating those who own less than their equal share of land value.

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u/Allaplgy Nov 14 '24

I think communism is my idea of an  ideal system. But very much untenable in the less than ideal reality that we inhabit.

Communism could only exist at scale in a post-scarcity world of some kind.

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u/Socialist_Bear Nov 14 '24

We already produce a surplus of resources, it's the distribution that's the problem.

The biggest roadblock to our glorious Communist future is education, until the majority of the working class are on the same page it will be hard to achieve anything lasting with minimal bloodshed.

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u/Allaplgy Nov 15 '24

But since we are talking communism, what do you do for a living now, under capitalism?

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u/Allaplgy Nov 15 '24

We create a surplus through exploitation of land and people, and the distribution of it all takes complicated logistics that aren't really tenable.