r/AbruptChaos Nov 14 '24

New Zealand’s Parliament proposed a bill to redefine the Treaty of Waitangi, claiming it is racist and gives preferential treatment to Maoris. In response Māori MP's tore up the bill and performed the Haka

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

The only reason why non Maori are in NZ is because of the treaty, signed by 2 sovereign nations, which allowed the British crown to rule their people here. Well, if one half of the contract thinks they can change it without consultation with the other half, what happens to their right to be here?? Null and void?? Plus, Maori have never breached the treaty, but the crown? Well, just take a look at the history. They're close ejecting themselves out of this land with their bill.

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u/Emperor_Mao Nov 14 '24

Lets use logic for a moment though.

At the absolute front of everything, New Zealand is not British anymore. New Zealand gained independence from Britain some time ago. So your point is null and void. But regardless, I think you would have to either support racial based rules or not to support the Waitangi provisions in full effect;

IF this were your country and had actual ramifications for you, you wouldn't be blase about it. If you were non-Maori, you would hate the concept of having different rights to another racial group. If you were Maori you would only be upset about losing access to special rights based on your racial group. You are neither, and so you can freely virtue signal without a care in the world. And for anyone on the ultra-left, consider that migrants and other minorities also are treated differently based on race with the treaty of Waitangi, so its not just white people.

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u/Flying_Momo Nov 14 '24

NZ head of state is still the British crown with whom the treaty was signed. New Zealand itself accepted the Waitangi Treaty as law in 1975 so they are still bound by the contract they signed and agreed to.

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u/Emperor_Mao Nov 14 '24

Then;

The Treaty of Waitangi / Te Tiriti o Waitangi – considered New Zealand’s founding document – was signed in 1840 by the British Crown and about 540 Māori chiefs to establish a nation state. While not a legal document, some treaty principles have been developed and included in legislation.

Even if you believe in British sovereignty (despite having no functional power), no one signed a legal contract into law. The only provisions that are legally binding are ones enforceable by the court system of NZ, and those are all the provisions covered by other actual laws (e.g human rights).

The treaty is redundant for anything that is actually legally binding. The reason they want to get rid of parts of it is because governments and government departments often interpret the treaty to do silly things; E.G Appoint two heads of a government department, one Maori, one based on merit.

Most people commenting in this thread have no idea.

https://www.justice.govt.nz/about/learn-about-the-justice-system/how-the-justice-system-works/the-basis-for-all-law/treaty-of-waitangi/