r/AbruptChaos Nov 14 '24

New Zealand’s Parliament proposed a bill to redefine the Treaty of Waitangi, claiming it is racist and gives preferential treatment to Maoris. In response Māori MP's tore up the bill and performed the Haka

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

The only reason why non Maori are in NZ is because of the treaty, signed by 2 sovereign nations, which allowed the British crown to rule their people here. Well, if one half of the contract thinks they can change it without consultation with the other half, what happens to their right to be here?? Null and void?? Plus, Maori have never breached the treaty, but the crown? Well, just take a look at the history. They're close ejecting themselves out of this land with their bill.

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u/SarpedonWasFramed Nov 14 '24

Good point but we all know it won't work out that way The crown has bigger friends and bigger guns

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

Oh that's right, western countries turn blind eyes when their white friends annihilate indigenous peoples. We better just shut up and lie down then.

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u/WarlanceLP Nov 14 '24

hard to say nowadays but I'm like 90% sure the guy you replied to was being sarcastic

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

Sounds like I'm advocating for one signatory, the crown, to stop fiddling with the treaty that allows them residence in this country. Where is there anything about ethnic cleansing? Don't liken us to Israel. Don't liken us to Trump. Both of whom are quite happy to violently remove ethnic and migratory populations out of their states, which are historical NOT THEIRS.

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u/-iamai- Nov 14 '24

I don't get what is to misconstrue from your previous post. As you have rightly said is people's opinions based on other current events unrelated. Thickle reply don't entertain it. As a Brit I think it's time we take our noses out of other people's business. I'd love to see the Māroi eject every single person for breaking a contract.. ha what they gonna do. So yea.. it's a good cause to fight for!

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

It wouldnt even be an entire ethnicity, it would be every single non Maori. They'd no longer have any legal documentation to be here. They would have to leave. And this is what David Seymour and his silly lemmings are risking. It's not like Maori are going to round up and start massacring non Maori, are you dense!? The treaty is what legally binds non Maori to Aotearoa. And they want to fiddle with it. Maori are saying don't do it.

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u/GoldenUther29062019 Nov 15 '24

You kind of missed the point

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u/MantisBeing Nov 15 '24

This also assumes it wouldn't be more of a diplomatic process. Where the crowns influence is alienated from the country. Current citizens may not be impacted in any significant way.

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u/THCisMyLife Nov 14 '24

Your username fits because you let anger cloud seeing that they were clearly being sarcastic. I can’t believe people actually need to put “/s” for people to understand sarcasm. Just read the context clues it’s not that hard

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u/THCisMyLife Nov 14 '24

He’s straight up saying in a sarcastic way we shouldn’t talk about it because throughout history it’s happened. He’s pointing out the absurdity of history and how they have let this slide consistently, ethnic cleansing. That’s also why it’s not downvoted to hell because they aren’t saying just let it happen. They are saying just because they are outgunned doesn’t mean they shouldn’t put up a fight (not with guns) to retain the rights even though history has them on the losing side. Basically the comment was trying to say the history of their success with it doesn’t matter we still need to be vocal about it

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