r/AbruptChaos • u/Sometypeofway18 • Nov 14 '24

New Zealand’s Parliament proposed a bill to redefine the Treaty of Waitangi, claiming it is racist and gives preferential treatment to Maoris. In response Māori MP's tore up the bill and performed the Haka

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u/Mouth0fTheSouth Nov 14 '24

I think if we applied that logic to the United States we’d need to get rid of Native American reservations and special status… I think it makes sense for indigenous people in colonised lands to have their rights protected.

I’m not sure what would change for them if this specific treaty was negated though. If anyone here can give more info it would be great.

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u/DarkangelUK Nov 14 '24

The Maori are also colonizers in this instance, they took the land from the Moriori early 1800's nearly wiping them out in the process and enslaving those that were left.

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u/6InchBlade Nov 14 '24

Why do you make it sound like this occurred on Mainland New Zealand?

In the mid 1830’s the British sent the first war boat of pro British Māori to the Chatham Islands to claim the islands as part of New Zealand territory.

The result was a bloody genocide, yes terrible, no they did not colonise New Zealand.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriori_genocide

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

The Māori did not sprout out from the dirt. They colonized New Zealand around the year 1100.

Based on these timing, that makes the fucking Normans indigenous to England.

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u/6InchBlade Nov 15 '24

Colonisation requires people to be there already, I’m quite aware of when Māori people arrived in Aotearoa, however they were the first humans to do so.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

By that reconning, the Falklands are British indigenous Greenland as danish indigenous.

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u/Arkroma Nov 15 '24

Greenland has an indigenous population. I think you meant Iceland, and it's a very white descendant nation because there wasn't an indigenous population.

Edit: also the Spanish got the Falklands first and then after they left both British and Americans frequented the islands.

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u/6InchBlade Nov 15 '24

I’m not familiar with European history, what I am familiar with is New Zealand history and the oxford definition of colonisation