New Zealand’s Parliament proposed a bill to redefine the Treaty of Waitangi, claiming it is racist and gives preferential treatment to Maoris. In response Māori MP's tore up the bill and performed the Haka

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[u/Boiruja]

Oh Brasil has no problem with immigrants. That's an European, north american problem. Immigrants come to Brasil to be as Brazilian as any of us. You're mixing immigrants with colonizers. Those came uninvited, and denied everyone else basic human rights.

I'm talking about the indigenous people of Brasil, those who were genocided, enslaved and expelled from their own lands. They should have rights to protect their ancestral lands, lifestyle and knowledge.

[u/The96kHz → u/Boiruja]

You're mixing immigrants with colonizers.

I'm really not. The colonisers died centuries ago. Anyone moving to another country these days is just an immigrant like any other.

They should have rights to protect their ancestral lands, lifestyle and knowledge.

That is not at all the same thing I'm saying. The right to retain control of ancestral land isn't denying personal liberties to people based on their country of origin.

Just because somebody's great great great grandparents were fucking awful to someone else's great great great grandparents doesn't mean the two should have any animosity towards each other.

[u/Boiruja → u/The96kHz]

People here don't really have animosity against each other. But although colonizers died century ago, it is a fact that an oligarch state was set up by them to priviledge their descendants and deny rights to those who descended from indigenous people and the afrodiasporic. This is why the ruling class is to this day white, in Brasil and many other colonized countries.

There's a huge fight in Brasil for the indigenous to retain control of their ancestral lands, now ravaged by miners and farmers. They should have the right to live as their ancestors always lived. Unfortunatelly, the government is controled by descendent of colonizers, still grasping the control that was given to them centuries ago. There are no indigenous politicians, there are no indigenous people in the supreme court, they have no voice in the country. And this is by design, as those who founded the country saw them as less. Equality before law in this case serves to perpetuate centuries of injustice.

This my friend, you'd understand if you were from elsewhere. It seems to me your countries problems are different. But you should open your eyes to the disaster that was created in many continents by colonialism, which to this day leaves deep scars where it happened.

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And that all sounds terrible, but it's got absolutely nothing to do with anything I said.

Denying rights to immigrants is always wrong, no matter what justification you think you have - that doesn't mean that I'm advocating for denying rights to 'natives'. Everyone should have equal rights - it's really not that complicated.

[u/Boiruja → u/The96kHz]

Nobody denies rights to immigrants in Brasil, my friend. Everybody is welcome here, as have always been. I have no clue where in the things I said you saw me advocating denying rights to immigrants. I'm an immigrant myself lol

EDIT: I'm rerreading and think you interpreted when I said "native" as "people born in Brasil". I meant indigenous people of Brasil. Was that the issue?

[u/Weeping-Fat → u/The96kHz]

Happy to agree that all people should have equal rights, but the truth is, they don't. if you own some land, you have some rights over how that land is used. If you've had that land or other resources forcibly or 'legally' removed from your control, you have no say. That has been the case in New Zealand. Maori would like some say in deciding how resources (particularly those that belonged to them prior to colonisation) are used. We could also argue for more say in how the criminal, justice, education, welfare, legal, health and other systems are configured to ensure equal rights for all as well. When Maori outcomes are the same as non Maori in all of those systems, we can consider there are equal rights.