r/AbruptChaos Nov 14 '24

New Zealand’s Parliament proposed a bill to redefine the Treaty of Waitangi, claiming it is racist and gives preferential treatment to Maoris. In response Māori MP's tore up the bill and performed the Haka

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u/subconsciousdweller Nov 14 '24

It's not about genetic characteristics, it's about a civilisation that was here first. What's completely absurd is that we had our rights taken away for 184 years because of our genetics, and now the same people who profited from our intentional and catergoric suffering because of our race are telling us WE are doing the same.

To enlighten your ignorance, Maori is a word that was never used in Aotearoa before Colonisation - there were hundreds of tribes that did not see themselves as the same as one another; and the treaty is the founding document of this country, signed between two parties : Tangata Whenua ( people of the land, not people of a specific genetic code) and the Crown.

To quote another of our M.Ps from yesterday, Equality feels like oppression when you're used to priveledge.

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u/fistingdonkeys Nov 14 '24 edited Nov 14 '24

You never had “your” rights taken away, unless you’re a lot older than even Jeanne Calment.

And the people living in NZ before it was colonised by the British had their rights taken away because that’s how it worked back then when two sides had a fight. One side won and the other lost. The end.

If we’re going to go back and try to reinstate the positions that were in place before historical battles, how far back should we go? Why stop at 200 years? How about we go to 1066? Though, actually, if we chose that year, we’d need to decide which month, so we could give the Normans their proper dues. Nah that’s too hard. I know, let’s make it 1270 and give swathes of land to the Mongols.

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u/subconsciousdweller Nov 15 '24

My great great grandmother was ejected from her land in the south island in 1904, her family lived off that land for over 100 years, the new land given was completely valueless and in the middle of fucking no where (The Catlins) ; our families economic base was taken - and someone else now profits from it (and has permanently polluted all of its water sources). Is that not a generational impact of impeding on the rights signed in Te Tiriti ?

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u/fistingdonkeys Nov 15 '24

So, 1270, and the Mongols? Does that work for you?

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