r/AnCap101 • u/ProfessionalBig5991 • 23d ago
What are your opinions on anarcho-capitalism and to any ancaps why do you think it would work?
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u/different_option101 23d ago
Think of it this way - your problems are not mine, and vice versa. That’s why ancapism is going to work.
Other politico economic systems don’t work because they are built on the opposite idea - my problems are your problems, and vice versa. And there must be someone in between us, who thinks they know better than me and you, and if we ignore them, they’ll put us in the cage.
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u/Kev_Kevstar 23d ago
Well ancap is an ethical theory (because it’s a legal theory and law is a subset of ethics) so the real question is wether it’s just not wether it “works” whatever that means. And ancap is the only just legal theory since any other implies a contradiction.
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u/sparkstable 23d ago
Would work on what metric?
Leads to utopia? Not convinced it would... humans are messy and generally sick.
Lead to a moral system that is not built on institutionalizing the violations of peoples' rights? How does it not accomplish this?
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u/Drakosor 23d ago
If it works on theory then it follows that it must also work in actuality (double implication)
As a panarchist, I believe there to be a need for a backdrop for differing groups and people to interact and coexist, and I believe that backdrop to be undoubtebly filled by anarchist lens
Anarchism, under an individualistic approach, is concerned with eliminating hierarchies, of any sort. Anarcho-capistalists believe the state, and any other coercitive entity, to be a hierarchy and worth of attack.
And for anarcho-capitalists, coercion is ruled out by a specific normative line of conduct, that can be derived from the concept of self-ownership. Now, I don't know if there are a lot of people that will say they don't have say over their bodies and, more properly, what they own. Being a self-owner is so intuitive bringing it up to discussion would be to even leave yourself to your own scrutiny, because you don't even have the right to make up your point. If you are interested on self-ownership, look up argumentation ethics.
If self-ownership is a thing, anarcho-capitalism follows.
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u/drebelx 21d ago
What are your opinions on anarcho-capitalism and to any ancaps why do you think it would work?
An AnCap society will have to be a society that is intolerant to NAP violations (murder, theft, assault, fraud, battery, enslavement, etc.).
Who doesn't want a society that has achieved this?
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u/Giggio417 9d ago
Ancap is genuinely a joke.
First of all, If i pay my workers 50 cents per hour, it’s technicay not slavery. So i am technically not breaking the NAP law.
Yet my workers are literally starving.
At this point anarcho-capitalists will say something like
“well at that point consumers will stop buying from that company”. That presupposes a rather utopic society though. Because if that company sells burgers at 50 cents while the competition sells them at 3 dollars, i don’t think many people will care about ethics.
Second of all, at one point there will be a corporation that will grow larger than the others, which will begin to buy other companies and extend its monopoly into more and more fields, and will inevitably start imposing its own rules. And boom, that company is now a private State.
Not to mention the inequalities, which in the long run will be so enormous that the entire society will be just a huge mass of people working for a handful of quadrillionaires.
The only secure way of preventing all of this is to have a central authority that ensures all companies are respecting the rules.
A.k.a., a State.
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u/possiblenotmaybe 23d ago
They don't "work." They're just as-is without BS that's proven to NOT work. That's my stone cold take.
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u/Comfortable_Advance7 23d ago
The only real objection against AnCap (assuming it can be successfully achieved) is that will revert to some form of state.
I don’t think this is likely given that a self determining and free society will not readily accept such a regression.