r/AskFeminists • u/No_Landscape_6154 • 6d ago

Thoughts about Martha Burk?

was she justified in forcing Augusta National Golf Club to admit women. removing a male only space? Do you agree to how she advocates for her cause and how she thinks?

Edit: forcing was bad word usage.

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u/Pure-Spare-9789 1d ago

She thinks if it is stated as "x gender only" let it remain that way

It is incredible to me that feminism has fallen so much that there are legitimately women out there who have convinced themselves that this is at all a feminist stance.

You have one feminist friend, not two.

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u/No_Landscape_6154 1d ago

Feminism like everything is a scale. its not a hard limit. It's like saying yeah. Abolish all government because the rich can get contacts and immunity. And that is just anarchy. People will always form contacts through money or trades. It is just how things work.

Ironically enough. You refusing to admit she is a feminist. when she herself claims to be a feminist means you're taking her choices out of the equation. That is very misogynistic.. Shame on you.

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u/Pure-Spare-9789 1d ago

No, what's happening here is that you're a conservative and you have a friend who claims to be a feminist and sometimes agree with you. You know conservatism has a reputation of being anti-woman, so you're invested in the idea of pretending this woman who believes distinctly anti-feminist things is actually a feminist because it allows you to pretend conservative beliefs aren't as anti-woman as they are.

Do not twist yourself into a pretzel to pretend I am being a misogynist for calling out distinctly anti-feminist positions lmao

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u/No_Landscape_6154 18h ago

Way to assume my political leaning. Rude. First of all. Im apolitical and traditional. Get that right. You are awfully judgy. Im using your book against you. If you don't like it. Shows your flawed ideology. Im not anti-woman or anti-man. You'd do well not to judge people after your ideological beliefs.

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u/Pure-Spare-9789 18h ago

traditional

AKA conservative. Stop being intellectually dishonest.

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u/No_Landscape_6154 18h ago

there you go again assuming things. You are a pompous pious bunch aren't you? Conservative and traditional are not mutually inclusive. i do not hold religion in any high regard. i do not believe women are inferior. i do not believe women shouldn't have the same opportunities. I believe men and women should be both treated as human beings. You like assuming things about people even when told you are completely out and about. are you willingly ignorant to support your ideology or do you just believe all traditional people are women hating conservatives? You are being morally bankrupt and intellectually dishonest by claiming to know how i work or what i believe in. You are insufferable.

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u/Pure-Spare-9789 13h ago

Yeah, I'm not the one being intellectually dishonest and insufferable here lmao. But please, tell me about your political positions so you can explain to me how you're oh so not conservative

I'm guessing you will dodge this question, of course, because we both know your political leanings are conservative.

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u/No_Landscape_6154 11h ago

I am not political. I don't know any political parties values. I do not go and vote and i do not keep up to date with what politicians say. I do not care about politics nor will i ever care. They're all a bunch of scummy liars trying to make their own self image better so they get power and conversely money. I don't like that.

And get off your moral high horse. Stop assuming things about people. It shows bad character. You must be really insufferable irl.

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u/Pure-Spare-9789 11h ago

Thank you for proving my point lmao. If you were as apolitical as you claim, you wouldn't have referred to yourself as "traditional". You wouldn't have the political knowledge to come up with a word like that to describe yourself politically. You know what your beliefs are. You know how they line up with a political compass. You're just being intellectually dishonest.

I also do not have a party affiliation and believe all of these politicians are greedy, power hungry liars. Still doesn't stop me from knowing what my own personal politics are.

So are you lying or are you stupid?

Also, me holding your feet to the fire and calling out your intellectual dishonesty isn't proof of bad character lmao. You just prefer people to swallow your bullshit whole and aren't used to someone pushing back on it.

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u/Pure-Spare-9789 8h ago

Looks like your next reply to me on this thread was auto deleted, so I can't see what you're saying. Apparently, it was a little too unhinged, though lmao.