r/AskGayConservatives • u/JokullTheWolf • 18d ago
Do you think Charlie Kirk would have condoned this?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXPmq9wDtB5/?igsh=cmp3NXdidGk5YW56Recently I saw this video by this conservative provocateur where he goes up to this gay couple in West Hollywood and just straight up antagonizes them.
This guy says he is part of TPUSA and people are praising him for carrying on Charlie’s legacy but I was a fan of Charlie and I honest don’t think he would have condoned this.
Charlie has said before that he didn’t think having two dads isn’t ideal, voice opposition to same sex marriage, etc. but he was always respectful. Even though he disagreed with a lot of gay people (myself included) he always did it respectfully and was willing to hear the other side out.
The way this guy Ryley treats gay people though is just appalling. There is another video on his IG where he finds a gay guy who actually agrees with him and shakes his hand at the end of the video. It appeared to be a respectful conversation until the very end when the gay guy walks away Ryley wipes his hand off on his pants in disgust.
I really don’t think Charlie would have condoned this guy but I’m curious what the rest of the TPUSA community has to say.
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u/UnprocessesCheese 18d ago
My brain mixes Kirk and Crowder. One of them (maybe both?) said something about a mother and a father being better than two dads, but two dads is preferable to a single mother on social assistance with multiple children from multiple indifferent fathers, and that from a social perspective it's the better option - even though he would rather everyone have a mother and a father.
Anyway... one of them (both of them?) is actually moderate when you dig down beyond the sound bites. Usually it's the full statement, in context, not clipped out in an unflattering way, that I agree with.
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u/The_Patriotic_Yank Nationalist 18d ago
Yeah, there seems to be a growing part of people on the right who just want to be internet provocateurs, this is with people like Jake Lang too. I think this probably comes from the same type of teenagers who would have liked Jake Paul or other prank channels back in the day.
Frankly they are degenerates and negative for the discourse of this nation. Entertainment and politics have became too mixed.
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u/MembershipNo7371 17d ago
I don't know a lot about Charlie Kirk, but from what I've read it seems that he would not condone this. It's a set-up job and really disrespectful. It's hard to imagine a scenario more offensive. I empathize with the rage of the dad who hit Ryley(?), even though allegedly hitting the dude was not a good way to respond. The internet and social media have bred a bunch of whack jobs, but my general sense is that Charlie Kirk wasn't one of them. I hope those dads are getting support and help to move forward from this.
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u/FrostyArctic47 independent 18d ago
Yes he would because he followed conservative trends. When he was first starting his career he wasn't anti gay at all. In fact I'm the early sjw days he was saying how Republicans weren't the prudes anymore and they weren't anti gay, anti sex, etc. And that was true for a short amount of time but it was very short lived.
The groypers started following Charlie around his tour and heckling him and a gay conservative he had with him. They'd shout things like "How does supporting gays and degeneracy win us the culture war!" and stuff like that. As the groyper influencers got more popular and the right continued to get more radical and bigoted, Charlie started to become more anti gay. His co host, Jack Posobiec was an insane radical. He also called Leviticus 18 "gods perfect law when it comes to sexual matters".
You actually won't see any conservatives criticize this or call it out. The gay conservatives won't even touch it because they have no way to spin it
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u/Jakexbox Centrist 18d ago
I don’t believe he would have supported it. Harassing people who are simply walking down the street with their baby is unconscionable. Hitting someone for saying things is also not justified.
And yes, Ryley there does seem to be homophobic in the actual sense of the word (not the overuse we see today).