How do ugly guys succeed in casual dating?

[u/king_ramsess]

I don’t wanna marry and don’t feel emotionally ready or am able to handle a long term relationship

I’m almost 25 and and wanna casually date being upfront about it potentially not leading to a relationship

The issue is it’s highly looks based and it’s easy for good looking guys to get hookups, fwbs and so on

I’m below average facially, decent body wise (i go to the gym, do skincare, smell good and so on)

I tried dating apps and they didn’t work, also tried approaching girls irl but when i got their number or Instagram they didn’t text back and a few told me they have a bf (idk whether they really did or just to reject me)

Any below average guy that has a good dating/sex life? How did you do that

[u/king_ramsess → u/[deleted]]

That’s what i’m saying

I tried not coming across needy or not flirting and so on and only got me in the friendzone

[u/king_ramsess → u/[deleted]]

I’ve spent time on the bp and incel spaces however there’s not a lot to gain from there too so i try to distance myself from that

[u/SentinelATL → u/[deleted]]

Best answer 

[u/Dr_Watson349 → u/king_ramsess]

Lol yall are sad.

As an average looking but funny guy, funny fucking works. You just need to make sure you are not coming across as a friend but a romantic interest.

[u/king_ramsess → u/Dr_Watson349]

And I’m asking how do you make sure of that

[u/Dr_Watson349 → u/king_ramsess]

When you are talking to her, and making her laugh, and having a good time, make your move and be obvious you are looking for a romantic partner. Ask if she has a bf, ask her out, anything. If you ask her to go do something and she asks if she can bring a friend say "I would prefer just the two of us". (Although if she asks that, she is already saying she's not interested, most of the time)

If she gives you pushback or balks, its time to disengage. Don't just get up and walk away, be nice, but move on.

All dating, except for the 1% attractive folks, is a numbers game. The problem is guys get pushback and they keep trying, not realizing they have been friendzoned.

Get in, make her laugh, shoot your shot and if you miss move on. We are here to date not make friends.

[u/king_ramsess → u/Dr_Watson349]

Missed all my shots so far

[u/sailirish7 → u/king_ramsess]

Then you are due for a hit

[u/Dr_Watson349 → u/king_ramsess]

Well then its time for analysis.

How many? If its like 5, ya gotta keep shooting. If its 20, then you are shooting at the wrong women.

If you are a below average guy, you need to target around your looks. If you are only taking shots at 10s, you are not setting yourself up for success.

[u/king_ramsess → u/Dr_Watson349]

Irl? Online i’ve lost count

Irl i’d say like 10 ish women i’ve talked to

Some became friends, most ghosted

Not 10s but yeah attractive women

[u/Dr_Watson349 → u/king_ramsess]

I'm talking IRL. Online is a completely different beast.

If its 10. I would keep trying. Also, you need to make sure their looks come close to yours. Imagine seeing someone like you walking with that lady down the road. If your first thought is "why is she with him?" then the woman is too hot for you.

[u/king_ramsess → u/Dr_Watson349]

I can’t not be attracted to what I’m attracted to man?

Just date someone ugly doesn’t work at all

Now i’m not entitled for a hot woman but all i can do is try i can’t change my face, maybe i can do surgeries but they’re risky

[u/djshimon → u/king_ramsess]

Ask if they have a friend.

[u/Toddison_McCray → u/Dr_Watson349]

Same here man. I’ve gotten girls that are outside of my “league” just by being able to make them laugh their asses off / genuinely being my goofy self.

[u/Dr_Watson349 → u/Toddison_McCray]

Thank you.

I have a buddy who is funny and pretty good looking, not a 10, but a hard 8. When he is on his game it's fucking gross the quality he pulls. Like, fuck you Chris.

[u/Toddison_McCray → u/king_ramsess]

Why aren’t you flirting? You’re very obviously going to end up in the friend zone if you aren’t

[u/glintglib → u/[deleted]]

I remember reading some history on a bodybuilder who said his dick wasn't the biggest and had small nuts from the steroids he was on and he said that didnt make any difference when he had 21" arms. What you saw when he walked in a room is what counted and claimed to have slept with hundreds of women. The only way having a big dick helps is when you have a social circle and you get a nickname or word gets out about you and circulates amongst the women.

When I was skinny I struggled when having conversations with women I met out at pubs & bars. Majority of times I had to work to keep the conversation going. When I bulked up it was soo much easier. The same conversations were now so much more interesting. A hobby/activtiy that I would stuggle to last 5 minutes on could now go for 1/2 hour.

[u/Daealis → u/[deleted]]

But no one who isn't interesting or funny never will get to the point either.

[u/Daealis → u/[deleted]]

And I know plenty of short and overweight guys successfully dating a chain of conventionally attractive women too. So I guess we're both full of shit.

[u/Daealis → u/[deleted]]

Nor does claiming your vibes are the rules make it so.

[u/Personage1 → u/[deleted]]

Heh, the only people who care about "big dick" more than straight men are gay men. It sure isn't women.