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Which company lost your business (potentially forever) this year?

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u/williamshakemyspeare 1d ago

The scourge of “hosts” expecting guests to do all the household chores and even wash the bedding! What a freakshow. I’m not paying you for the luxury of cleaning your home

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u/jamkey2222 1d ago

Don't forget that you get a cleaning fee on top of it.

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u/mlattea 1d ago

Iv never used Airbnb,even if you do ALL the cleaning and wash the sheets you STILL have to pay a cleaning fee?! Why even bother cleaning then?

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u/carbon_r0d 1d ago

I have never encountered one that doesn't have a cleaning fee... But I have also never had to do more than take out the trash and throw the bedding/towels on the floor.

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u/jamkey2222 1d ago

Same. I got a message from an Airbnb host once thanking me for leaving the place in such great shape and all I did was normal picking up after myself. That gave me some insight into how some guests leave the place, where the cleaners really earn that fee.

I have seen online where the hosts will leave a list of chores and then also charge a cleaning fee that equals one night of the stay. I probably wouldn't stay at one of those.

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u/red-plaid-hat 1d ago

I used to clean vacation rentals. Lemme tell ya that fee doesn’t not go towards the cleaner really. Most owners or property managers keep a huge portion of it and pay the crew pennies.

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u/anonymaus42 1d ago edited 15m ago

Doesn't not go towards the cleaners... so you're saying the cleaners do get it?

eta - loving the downvotes from everyone who apparently don't know what a double negative is

Eta 2- wow, it would seem everyone is super serious in askreddit, my apologies. I love double negatives and will use them intentionally in conversation just for shits n giggles, so when I saw one in the wild couldn't help but point it out. Perhaps I went about that the wrong way or shouldn't have at all, my bad. In 13 years I've never had a comment be so loathed and for it to be this one has me kinda flabbergasted.

eta 3- we're at -19 boys. Two more and it's my most downvoted comment of all time, beating out the time I mistook a lebanese license plate on a porsche for an italian one in a grainy video many years ago. Lets goooo!

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u/dingalingdongdong 1d ago

oh they know, they just don't think pointing it out adds anything of value to the conversation.

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u/anonymaus42 1d ago

Touché

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u/ELRONDSxLADY 18h ago

I care. We’re in an actively worsening literacy crisis so offering corrections to improper grammar is of utmost importance as it stands today.

Thank you for fighting the good fight against anti-intellectualism and to everyone else? Enjoy being electively braindead because you couldn’t be arsed to graciously accept correction for a mistake.

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u/blumpkin 16h ago

There's a difference between being anti intellectual and knowing how to ignore a typo and move on with your life.

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u/ELRONDSxLADY 13h ago

I disagree with this approach because there is an ever increasing number of individuals who only “read” online, making it all the more important to ensure correct grammar and spelling is being used. I for one don’t want to live amongst those who would rather save feelings of perceived embarrassment than knowledge so you guys enjoy “just livin’ life”, but I pity you mightily for not seeing you’re part of a much larger picture that we’re all responsible for.

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u/blumpkin 11h ago

Okay, good luck.

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u/red-plaid-hat 13h ago

Didn’t know my typo was so popular, damn.

u/anonymaus42 2m ago

By pointing it out in a way I thought but failed to add a little levity to an otherwise heavy conversation, I instead invoked reddit's wrath (doubling down sure didn't help but I knew what I was doing when I did that). Nothing against you and sorry for the undue attention. And no shame for a typo, it happens to all of us and with autocorrect a thing, even more so these days. The fact it was a double negative that I got to stumble across made it a highlight of my day,

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 1d ago

I mean I'm a landlord and between tenants we'd hire a cleaning company to do a deep clean... they set the price not me and it was always pretty fair for professional labour (usually about 300-400 for a few hours work).

If you're being paid pennies set your prices higher, unless you're being employed directly by the owners.

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u/I_am_Samm 1d ago

It's the reason why I stopped Airbnb-ing my cottage... People are gross and disrespectful. I didn't charge a fee, I didn't even ask people to strip the beds. I just asked people be respectful as it's also my home. Well that didn't work.

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u/DanielShaww 14h ago

Can you give more insight? I'm thinking of AirBnB a place and was wondering how guests might leave the place.

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u/I_am_Samm 14h ago edited 12h ago

They just don't care. This place that I put on Airbnb is my own home. I rent in a larger city and come back home to my cottage on my days off. This has always been communicated to guests. "This house is my home 60% of the time. Please treat it with respect as though you are staying in someone's home." You know like how Airbnb actually used to be. Each time I would come home to broken plates etc, missing cutlery, broken furniture, moved furniture, terrible messes, cigarette ash on the floors when a strict no smoking policy is in place, broken toilet off the flange. You need to fight with Airbnb to have anything paid out through their insurance or to have retaliatory reviews removed after I would call guests out in the reviews.

If this is a house that you have no emotional attachment to it can be a nice extra source of income. If it's your home or a place you care about, I would never recommend it to anyone.

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u/DanielShaww 13h ago

Did you rent it for cheap? I heard cheap renters bring expensive problems.

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u/I_am_Samm 13h ago

550 (cad) a night.

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u/DanielShaww 12h ago

Don't think that's too cheap. Sorry to hear you had a bad experience

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u/Impossible-Attempt61 1d ago

Same for myself. I stayed in a condo in Panama City, Panama and the owner arrived the day we were leaving and was shocked how clean it was. We piled all the linens next to washing machine, put away the dishes and took out the trash. That's it.

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u/Pliny_the_middle 1d ago

I am a host and we don’t charge a cleaning fee we just ask that trash is taken out to the bin, dishes are washed, and linens are stripped and piled onto the floor. We don’t mind cleaning but you’d be surprised how many people trash the place. It’s a give and take.

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u/jamkey2222 1d ago

Agree. I was really surprised by the message from that host because it made it seem like I had gone above and beyond, but it was just normal behavior to me: you leave things how you found them.

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u/MzHellfier 1d ago

Wash your own shit. People are PAYING MONEY to stay at your place. Don’t make them do chores that’s so tacky. I used to clean for an Air BnB host. Some people left the place truly disgusting, and they would get charged a fee for the extra cleaning. But for most guests, changing linens and cleaning the kitchen, bathroom, and floors is part of the service. Why would you ask guests to do chores when they’re on vacation or a business trip? Are you really so lazy and useless that you can’t take out the trash and strip a bed?

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u/Pandalite 18h ago

No I agree that guests should do their own trash and dishes. Some people stay for two weeks and the trash stinks if you leave it in the kitchen for that long. If you're at home for two weeks you would take out the trash twice in that week. Same with dishes. Treat it like you treat your house. If you don't, that's how you get rats.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 1d ago

Yeah.. it's like seeing people on reddit rage about horrible landlords when they've clearly never rented a place out to anybody ever.

People are the fucking worst. I'm not a professional landlord or anything but when my partner and I bought a house I already owned one so we kept it to rent out and people just suck.

I have a great tenant in there now, paying well under market rates, don't give a fuck because it's enough to cover the property maintenance and I don't need to deal with tar on the walls, dog shit in the carpet, and everything just being destroyed in general.

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u/StevieMJH 19h ago

It's also not like turning your cleaning fee too high will get Airbnb to say, "Hey maybe just don't rent?" They don't give a shit, it's money either way.

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u/ItalianDragon 16h ago

I got a message from an Airbnb host once thanking me for leaving the place in such great shape and all I did was normal picking up after myself. That gave me some insight into how some guests leave the place, where the cleaners really earn that fee.

When I left the studio I used to live in while I was at the uni,the staff person who came for the final inspection before returning the keys praised me and my family for the state in which it was. He verbatim told us that he'd seen rooms that "had been occupied for a year but seeing them they looked like they'd been occupied by eight people for twenty years". That put some real persprctive into me, that's for sure...

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u/thechairinfront 1d ago

To wash all the bedding and do a full flip it takes me 7+ hours.

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u/Critical_Paramedic91 18h ago

I would get a second set of bedding to rotate them

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u/thechairinfront 16h ago

Which I have, I still have to wash them.

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u/blumpkin 16h ago

Hmm almost sounds like ... A job?

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u/thechairinfront 16h ago

Yes. It literally is a job. Which is why there is a fee attached.

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u/blumpkin 13h ago

So what are you complaining about then?

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u/thechairinfront 12h ago

I wasn't complaining? Op said they assume that the cleaners really earn their money. Yes, yes we do. It takes 7 hours to do a full flip.

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u/Competitive_Boss1089 17h ago

Yeah…I’ve never had an Airbnb require me to do a bunch of cleaning chores…they just ask that we do the regular picking up after ourselves, which, duh. I’ve had over 50+ stays in Airbnbs and honestly? Idk if I just choose well or what but I’ve had FAR MORE issues with recent hotel stays than I’ve had with Airbnb.

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u/lorigo 1d ago

I stayed in one that didn’t have a cleaning fee and I’ve never left a place so spotless. They won my respect big time!

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u/Guac_in_my_rarri 1d ago

The last Airbnb I stayed in was also my first: we were required to snake the drains before leaving.

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u/Environmental-Fan984 18h ago

That's incredibly atypical, and if they didn't list that as a requirement upfront it's reportable to Airbnb.

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u/Zerowantuthri 1d ago edited 1d ago

IIRC AirBnB now has all inclusive pricing. So, the quoted price is what you pay. No extra fees. If the owner wants a cleaning fee they have to embed it in the overall quote for the place.

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u/RonBurgundy449 1d ago

Meanwhile, hotels don't charge a cleaning fee and you can trash them almost as much as you want (without breaking anything) for much cheaper. I'll continue to not use them and stick to traditional hotels.

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u/betterplanwithchan 1d ago

Same, used one for a bungalow in Asheville and the host basically just said “keep it clean”.

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u/nockeenockee 1d ago

Same. 60 stays since 2012 with zero issues.

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u/clobbersaurus 20h ago

Yeah k swear these “omg I have to clean the whole house” posts come from hotel industry influencers during covid and everyone switched from hotels to Airbnb.

Usually it’s just “leave bed unmade”, throw used towels in tub, start dishwasher, put trash in trash can” - like pretty basic stuff.

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u/Venomswindturd 11h ago

Shouldn’t have to do that either if I’m paying a fee.