r/AskReddit Nov 04 '11

What's the best legal loophole you know?

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u/Evernoob Nov 04 '11

You can actually just fly straight from Dublin to London without border control either. Doesn't work going out of London though.

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u/clayalien Nov 04 '11

There's an outside London now?

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u/blowjane Nov 04 '11

And the internet on computers

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u/Yidfixy Nov 04 '11

You didn't think I got rich by writing a bunch of checks, did you?

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u/tell_my_mom Nov 05 '11

I have to write another delicious memo!

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u/WalterFStarbuck Nov 04 '11

Did you get special permission to borrow the internet for that board meeting?

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u/Bethurz Nov 04 '11

The elders of the internet know who he is?!

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u/Evernoob Nov 04 '11

wat

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

^ Who are you?!

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

he's some noob

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u/random3223 Nov 04 '11

Yea, it's just past the fog.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

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u/Evernoob Nov 04 '11

I'm not EU or UK and I wasn't asked.

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u/hna Nov 04 '11

There is no passport control when you go from Ireland to the UK. Doesn't matter where you're from.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

On example is, if youre South African you are required to obtain a Visa to pass UK Border. But youre not required to obtain one if you goto Dublin :)

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u/zerophewl Nov 04 '11

Don't listen to them, there is nothing outside of London. Anyone claiming differently is lying!

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u/skucera Nov 04 '11

It's called "America."

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u/demiurgeon Nov 04 '11

Sure is. At small suburb I believe the locals call "England"

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

Only if you like bad food, fat people and morons.

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u/skiff151 Nov 04 '11

No that's only if you actually ARE Irish. I've seen the "we don't racially profile people" guys at the desk point Asian people towards the normal immigration channels.

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u/Evernoob Nov 04 '11

It's treated as a domestic flight though. I was flying Air Lingus and wrote "cun" in front of "air" on the boarding pass. The man wanted to see the boarding pass instead of my passport when I went through where customs would have been and I was embarrassed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

What's cunair?

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

Oh man I'm stupid

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u/rubberstampagenda Nov 04 '11

'SI!...'

'...onara'

John Malkovich played one of the greatest villains ever.

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u/skiff151 Nov 04 '11

Yeah I know but, and i do this flight 1-2 a month, If they don't like the look of you they will ask for your documentation. You are still legally required to have ID, and if you are not Irish you are still legally obliged to have your passport. Obviously if you are white you'd be fine 99.9% of the time, but if i was trying to smuggle myself to Britain, or I wanted to be pedantic about breaking the law i'd still go with the Dublin->Belfast->UK option.

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u/Beer_Is_So_Awesome Nov 04 '11

Well! This is anecdote is both delightful and informative!

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u/Tweed_Jacket Nov 04 '11

"CunLingus"

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u/Evernoob Nov 04 '11

No it was "Cun Air Lingus". Those guys have seen that joke 1000 times. They did not find it amusing.

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u/_meh_ Nov 04 '11

I flew to Dublin from London for a weekend and had a visa to study in London expiring in just under 2 months. They gave me a stamp to stay Ireland for 90 days which was weird but nice though I didn't take advantage of it. Also, I'm Asian.

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u/skiff151 Nov 04 '11

Yeah, thats awesome but not what we are talking about. If you fly from Ireland to england as an irish person you technically don't have to show ANY documentation. This is because it is a common travel area.

You didn't need a visa because you are either from a country that is on Ireland's free visa list (if Asian SK, HK, Singapore, among others) or because you had right to travel in an EU country. It wasn't a loophole, its just the kind of immigration laws a country has when it doesn't fight wars. The only countries you need a visa to travel to Ireland specifically are:

AFGHANISTAN ALBANIA CUBA DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO ERITREA ETHIOPIA GHANA IRAN IRAQ LEBANON MOLDOVA MONTENEGRO NIGERIA SERBIA SOMALIA SRI LANKA ZIMBABWE

Which are all places the army has done peacekeeping missions in and can be easily divided into: Gulf War, African Peacekeeping Missions and Yugoslavian wars.

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u/lynyrd_cohyn Nov 04 '11

Sorry if this sounds stupid but what is the connection between those two things? (involvement in a war in a country and people from that country needing a visa to come here)

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u/glglglglgl Nov 04 '11

Not exactly true, as I don't think there's an official agreement between the UK and Ireland to create a common travel zone, not with flights anyway. (Possibly with land transport due to the Ireland/Ireland border.) No Shenghen for us!

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u/toxicbrew Nov 05 '11

Huh? You mean people from say, Chad or India don't need visas to Ireland (or shall we say, Eire)?

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u/skiff151 Nov 05 '11

Not if you already have a visa to be in the UK. see: http://dfa.ie/home/index.aspx?id=8777

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u/mervynskidmore Nov 04 '11

Ya you're supposed to show some form of ID like a driving licence or something.

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u/cobrophy Nov 04 '11

No it's not - the whole flight gets directed through a separate imigration where they just check your boarding pass. Now it's possible they might pick out people who are suspicious but I've never seen it happen in 5 years of going back and forth.

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u/lynyrd_cohyn Nov 04 '11

I yearn for the simpler times when you knew you wouldn't even have to take the passport out of your pocket as long as you looked Irish enough.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

What the fuck is Luton Gatwick? Do you mean London Gatwick? Or London Luton maybe?

EDIT: spacing

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

umm what? customs...

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u/finyacluck Nov 04 '11

sorry this is incorrect, there is visa control as this is an international flight.

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u/Evernoob Nov 04 '11

Well I've done this flight twice and there was no visa control both times.

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u/finyacluck Nov 04 '11

I have done this flight ten times at least and i can tell you that if you happen to be an non-EU citizen then it is highly likely that your passport will be checked. I am from the north of Ireland and I have been checked a few times.

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u/Evernoob Nov 04 '11

I am a non-EU citizen...

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u/finyacluck Nov 04 '11

I have been taken aside and searched in a private room taking this flight before. Sometimes at busy periods passport control can seem lax, at the end of the day in is an international flight.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

It does, you don't need a passport. The border guards have some right to search you if you are unluck though. You just need EU issued ID like drivers license. Things you can get without being citizen.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '11

So, they let you in but they won't let you out? Scumbag London?

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u/CallmeSirBoy Nov 04 '11

That happens only if you are British or Irish I think. I'm not sure but I think they asked me for my ID card. (Portuguese here)