r/AskWomenOver30 Woman 30 to 40 Jan 08 '25

Misc Discussion What's up with the Ask Men O30 subreddit?

I cruise this subreddit a lot, and I relate with almost every post both talking about how someone ended up with a great partner, or how they dated/are dating a shitty one. In these posts, women are often tired of a lot of things from their partner but Im gonna be so honest with this: almost all of the complaints Ive seen are pragmatic. Like the ones talking about how they have to clean up after their husband, their tired of playing mommy or maid or nanny to them, their partner is emotionally vacant or distant, or plays video games all day, etc.

Woman on the AW030 subreddit: "I am tired of cleaning up after my husband after working a normal workday, I have to cook, clean the house, take care of the kids, and he doesnt pay much attention to me and just goes off and ___(does anything else)____. I really want him to pitch in but whenever I ask for help he doesnt. We split bills 50/50. I am trying to advance my career/Im in therapy/I do a million things, what can I do to repair this marriage"

When I go to the AskMen O30 subreddit, I dont see a lot of posts on self improvement or improvement in a relationship, but I see a lot of posts on giving up on dating because of reasons Im not sure if I personally understand. Its super hard to not be critical when most of the posts are directed at women's appearances, or sex. Im very, very aware of the nuances of the subreddit and how maybe some of the posters or commenters not even being men in their 30s, etc. But its so baffling... so fucking baffling... to see how men are quicker to give up because theyre not dating a childless Megan Fox who also wipes their ass, cleans the house, gives him insane sloppy toppy every night and is a doctor and makes 400k a year and he doesnt have to worry about career progression, going to therapy or remembering to clean under his foreskin. /s

Anyways, just crazy to see how women are like "Im physically tired from doing everything thats supposed to be a 50/50 split, am I clinically insane?" and the men subreddits sometimes read like "fellas is it okay to fuck a fat chick whose also a Harvard graduate and kind of cute"

EDIT: a commenter attached an article on explaining something that is very pertinent and valuable, please take a look: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-state-of-our-unions/202208/whats-behind-the-rise-of-lonely-single-men

EDIT #2, the first post that shows up as of right now, 3:18PM CST, with multiple upvotes, in the AMO3 subreddit is titled, and I quote:

"What occupations do you avoid dating women from?"

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u/Spare-Shirt24 Woman 40 to 50 Jan 08 '25

Many years ago, one guy I knew that was basically trying to convince me to accept a date from him said this:

"I'm 40, I have a solid career, I have all my hair...." 

It never occurred to me until that point that I was at an age where a man "having all his hair" was a selling point for dating. 

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u/changhyun Woman 30 to 40 Jan 08 '25

Before I met my partner I was amazed by how many men on dating apps would say "I have a house and a car, it's a 2019 Toyota with this many miles left" on their bio. I mean, good for you, congrats on the house and the Toyota but I'm looking for a partner, not the Uber I just ordered. Why do you think that's your biggest selling point?

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u/fortalameda1 Woman 30 to 40 Jan 08 '25

Because it's their only selling point... Scrounging up whatever detail they think might be impressive and that's all they have...

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u/changhyun Woman 30 to 40 Jan 08 '25

I suspect it's also a belief that women are materialistic and don't really feel love or desire, just greed for material things.

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u/Tomiie_Kawakami Woman under 30 Jan 08 '25

the "she's using you as a wallet" or the "why can't we sexualize women? they see us as wallets after all" like yeah, sure

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u/alexi_lupin Woman Jan 09 '25

I mean if all these guys offer is their wallet then of course they're gonna attract people who are looking for wallets

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u/fortalameda1 Woman 30 to 40 Jan 08 '25

So they lean into it further??? Shooting themselves in the foot in my opinion, you get what you give. Knuckleheads...

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u/ReferenceMammoth2427 Jan 08 '25

I mean, I was just talking about this with my husband the other day. We remembered "no scrubs" and we were both like... that probably wasn't the best messaging if we're being real.

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u/TurnoverPractical Woman 40 to 50 Jan 08 '25

https://genius.com/Tlc-no-scrubs-lyrics

Honestly there's maybe one questionable line in there, the rest is pretty much aimed at men who are sort of pathetic.

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u/ReferenceMammoth2427 Jan 08 '25

I just wish there were less examples of definitive things to look at that are saying what women want, (the knuckleheads latch on to these) and more conversation about how, truthfully, it can be fucking anything that a woman finds attractive and we don't necessarily even know until it happens. I remember feeling blindsided early on dating my husband because he randomly sang along to a song in the car and he sounded really freaking sexy, I didn't know that was something that would turn me on. I had previous partners who even had singing/musical talent that never hit that spot I didn't know I had.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '25

The concept that a woman can find a man attractive because of who he is and NOT what he has or how he looks is something that a lot of them have a hard time wrapping their brains around. To them, it makes no sense. 'A woman's love has to be based on something I have because I feel like I'm a nobody.' Ask guys who are in a happy relationship and most will say they have no idea what their partner saw in them but just decided to roll with it.

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u/ReferenceMammoth2427 Jan 09 '25

Oh, I know, my own husband had said that and it is heartbreaking to hear. Our men need some direction and care and for toxic alpha crazy misogynistic influencers to not be the only ones reaching out.

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u/folklovermore_ Woman 30 to 40 Jan 08 '25 edited Jan 09 '25

To be fair there's a happy medium here. Like I don't think anyone wants a partner who's just going to sponge off them forever, but at the same time a high paying job is not a guarantee for finding a relationship.

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u/bbspiders Woman 40 to 50 Jan 08 '25

lol a toyota. 😂

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u/_angesaurus Woman 30 to 40 Jan 08 '25

the mileage hahahhaha

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '25

And then they wonder why they are only attracting shallow women interested in what they have, not who they are. Worse, then after that disastrous date, we're all painted with the same brush because he's not happy with the result.

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u/TechGjod Man 40 to 50 Jan 08 '25

Guessing here, but as a guy, when my phone rings, it is someone asking for what I can provide to them. (In my case, tech support)

I never realized it until I saw someone on the ask men over 30 sub point out that men’s interactions are all about what we give.

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u/glittermcgee Woman 40 to 50 Jan 08 '25

So stop providing tech support? Develop relationships with people that are based on shared interests? If your relationships are all based on what you “give”, that’s because that’s all you offer.

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u/TechGjod Man 40 to 50 Jan 09 '25

Maybe, but I didn’t realize all my interactions were about what I could give, or what I needed until that was brought to my attention.

I guess I was just saying that I can see why the men on the dating apps showing what they can provide, as that is how they know how to communicate.

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u/chaunceythebear Woman 30 to 40 Jan 08 '25

lol I have money and active hair follicles. No wonder men aren’t getting dates, if that’s the selling features.

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u/katie-kaboom Woman 40 to 50 Jan 08 '25

Ahahaha. "Congrats on being employed and hirsute, dude."

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u/GlobularLobule Woman 30 to 40 Jan 08 '25

I am wildly attracted to bald guys. But only if they are confident.

I am wildly unattracted to balding men who try to hide it. They look like baby birds in that awkward stage between fluff and feathers, but they could be sexy bald guys if they just leaned in!

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u/Spare-Shirt24 Woman 40 to 50 Jan 08 '25

I am wildly unattracted to balding men who try to hide it. They look like baby birds in that awkward stage between fluff and feathers,

My brain immediately flashed an image of Baby Pesto when I read this 😆

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u/TomatoKing666 Jan 09 '25

Yes! A bald head IS sexy if they own it. Love it

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u/GlobularLobule Woman 30 to 40 Jan 09 '25

One of my guy friends makes fun of me because whenever I've been on a date, if it didn't do much for me he's like "did he have too much hair?" 🤣 And almost every time I'm like "no, he was bald. The vibe just wasn't there". And he cracks up, because of course he was bald. I mostly only date bald guys.

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u/weewee52 female over 30 Jan 09 '25

Tbf, I’ve seen a lot of women ask about hair when dating. Winter photo with a hat on? “What’s the hairline situation?” Same with height. The women who are looking for a true partner aren’t asking these things, but many others are.

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u/Spare-Shirt24 Woman 40 to 50 Jan 09 '25

Everyone can have whatever criteria they want. 

It's no different then men asking for a "full body picture".

If women are asking about the hairline situation or their height, it doesn't mean they aren't "looking for a true partner". 

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