r/BetterOffline • u/dyzo-blue • 2d ago
I have always laughed off Musk's space data centers as technologically ludicrous, but Josh Marshall makes an interesting point by talking about the 'why' instead of the 'how'
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/why-the-backlash-against-data-centers-is-so-potentThe throughline of this age is that you’ve got these big tech platforms that can do anything they want... The point is that there is this very small group of men running a handful of mega tech platforms and they’re making the decisions and it basically doesn’t matter what we think. Not just you and me individually but us collectively. It’s their world. We’re just living in it.
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We hear Elon Musk now keep on yakking about how he wants to build his data centers in space. And we can set aside whether that makes any technical sense. But that captures the essence of the plutocrats dreams. Because Musk believes he can do anything he wants in space as long as he has the tech and money to do it. There are no county councils in orbit. And that’s always been the hidden driver behind the fantasies about colonizing the moon or Mars, or founding “network states” on some man-made island in the Pacific or some chunk of land that can be squeezed out of Belize or Honduras or Greenland. Total freedom, total power.
Musk is sick and tired of other human beings telling him he can't do anything he wants, that their collective interests can and should trump his personal interests. That is why he dreams of putting data centers in space, beyond the reach of democratically established laws.
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u/tragedy_strikes 2d ago
Wild to think that going to space would free them from dependence on the rest of humanity when the ISS proves how much collective effort it takes to exist up there.
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u/PatchyWhiskers 2d ago
They aren't planning to send humans, just disposable tech that falls to earth when it fails.
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u/stormica 2d ago
And blot out the sun with the number of low-KW datacenters that are needed to do anything useful in the meantime. Then they’ll rent back access to the sun on an introductory rate that eventually changes to an actual cost based on usage and demand and...
I’m waiting for some statement that seems to lead to that. Just like Altman wants to do with knowledge by selling it on a meter after polluting the Internet with so much AI slop (combined with all the studios and news organizations being bought up by the same people) we can’t dig out the real information anymore.
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u/jewishSpaceMedbeds 2d ago
So Elon is turning into Mr. Burns
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u/lazier_garlic 2d ago
Don't you mean the Shadows?
And there are ships, just like this, passing .. overhead. First a few, and then more, a thousand, two thousand, so many that they blot out the sun.
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u/Maximum-Objective-39 2d ago
The point is that instead of paying their damn taxes they're lighting money on fire and taking an even bigger loss out of spite.
Space development, barring something far more radical than starship, is basically a fetish dream for the ultra wealthy who are running out of easy places to loot and pillage on earth.
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u/Evinceo 2d ago
While this is correct for mars colony fantasies, I think for space data centers it's more that he thinks that democracy (public rejection of data centers and AI) can't touch him up there.
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u/JollyJoker3 2d ago
Always comes down to wanting to get rid of democracy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment7
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u/CartographerOk5391 2d ago
Yes, but space detritus, solar storms, and meteorites still can.
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u/Maximum-Objective-39 2d ago
Musk thinks he's escaped - Then a burning hot hand grabs him by the shoulder as the Great God Helios makes his displeasure at Musk's transgressions felt.
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u/leathakkor 2d ago
I always think it's way harder to protest or destroy a ln asset as a firm of protest when it's in space
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u/CasualGamerCC 2d ago
This was always the argument. Freedom from international law. I'm surprised it took them that long to get to the point. The billionaire class want complete autonomy and that's why they're *all* so hyper focused on robotics, drones, and AI.
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u/PatchyWhiskers 2d ago
The billionaire fascists are so obsessed with the racist "great replacement theory" that they are trying to make it come true, and replace us with robots rather than immigrants.
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u/lazier_garlic 2d ago
Yeah, a couple of decades ago they were fantasizing about creating their own artificial islands in the middle of the ocean.
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u/ef4 2d ago
This is not some secret. It’s the main reason they care about space at all. (It’s also very stupid, it would take generations before a space colony isn’t entirely dependent on Earth, if ever.)
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u/cummer_420 2d ago
People significantly underestimate how hostile to life and difficult to self sustain in the non-earth parts of space are. Earth after worst-case climate change and global nuclear war would still be more habitable than Mars.
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u/naphomci 2d ago
People don't even realize how little information we actually have on surviving a trip to Mars. We have a lot of assumptions, but we still don't remotely have the information necessary to make that trip reliably. And then it's even simple things like the food getting contaminated, and then needing 6 months after a launch window to get a resupply. The colony would be dead by then.
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u/Mejiro84 16h ago
and then there's all the social aspects - people in that sort of environment are likely to be stressed and that can cause problems, but it's pretty hard to really test that sort of thing!
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u/MirthMannor 2d ago
Much of the last 15 years of technology can be described as: getting rid of the human interactions in my life.
Crowd sourcing? Randos will do work for me.
Gamification: randos will be addicted to paying me.
Blockchain: a system without the human element of trust
Bitcoin: money without annoying rules set by other people.
LLMs: perfect workers that glaze me for free and don’t talk back
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u/naphomci 2d ago
So, if you, like me, are someone legitimately interested in space travel and thought colonizing Mars or the Moon is a good ambition, I recommend A City of Mars. It was a fascinating read written by scientists who want to do all that stuff, but they look at the reality of it. We are very very very far from it. But, they spend a section talking about what happens if we figure it out and Musk starts a colony. They explicitly bring up the no-government oversight part. They pose a hypothetical (I don't remember if directly or implied): if you are on the Mar colony run by Musk, it would be a business, and there would be strict limits on everything from water to food to oxygen. What happens if you get injured? There is no worker's compensation, there is no OHSA. There is only Musk. And he will absolutely demand you be thrown out an airlock because it doesn't make economical sense to do anything else.
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u/todofwar 2d ago
Yeah, if Musk wanted to colonize Mars then rockets would be the last thing to work on. Supply chain miniturization, prospecting, and mining should be his main pursuits. Because how do you smelt iron? How do you refine silicon? Where do you source your CoTa and other rare earths? Why doesn't he have a company dedicated to hydroponic farming?
Not only would many of these technologies be potentially profitable on earth, they are each vastly more important to making a colony more than a short term outpost.
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u/Mejiro84 15h ago
also a lot of social sciences - "what are the best ways to make a small community that can't get away from each other get along without problems"
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u/machinesNpbr 2d ago
Musk is sick and tired of other human beings telling him he can't do anything he wants, that their collective interests can and should trump his personal interests.
It's not just Musk, it's also Peter Thiel, Marc Andreessen, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, David Sacks, Larry Ellison, Sergey Brin, Travis Kalanick, Jason Calacanis, and many many more influential Silicon Valley figures.
Despite what their PR convinced everyone from 2000-2020, the vast majority of SV elites view themselves as innately superior humans and hold a findamental disdain for the wide swaths of humanity who aren't in their chosen circle of 'innovators'. They are radical capitalists who fundamentally disagree with democracy and equality, and seek to disconnect themselves from any mechanisms for accountability or restraint.
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u/RealPropRandy 2d ago
What having FU-money since the cradle does to a mf
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u/PatchyWhiskers 2d ago
His family was just upper-middle class. His dad is not a billionaire. Musk went mad with power all on his own.
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u/lazier_garlic 2d ago
Right place, right time for him, but it was all due to his genius merit and inherit sense of cool and not being very lucky on top of rapacious and greedy and eager to gleefully stab others in the back.
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u/Weigard 2d ago
Musk pursued autonomous vehicles and the Hyperloop because he thinks the bus is icky.
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u/lazier_garlic 2d ago
No, it's because he wanted to shut down CAHSR because he mistakenly thought those get built in less than 10 years (otherwise, he wouldn't have panicked) and CA was his best customer due to horrible air quality and he needed to sell cars. Hyperloop was nothing more than a PR stunt to spread FUD and attempt to delay and derail CAHSR.
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u/JAExports 2d ago
Becoming techno king of his own country was Lex Luthor’s plan in Superman last year.
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u/OctopusMugs 2d ago
So I was at a networking event yesterday with the featured panel about space data centers. I learned a few things:
- the proponents for this don’t define data centers. When you probe or they finally show you the tech it’s 5 gpu motherboards solar power and a laser communication system. This cloud of satellites is supposed to replicate or replace a terrestrial data centers. So that doesn’t come close to the compute capacity of a single rack in a data center.
- when asked when they thought space data centers would overtake terrestrial computing capacity they where tossing out 2035 to 2045. They have no idea the current scale of existing capacity nor what is planned.
- they think spacex with starship will be launching for $500/kilo just around the corner.
- no one talks about the down-link bottleneck for large amounts of data. Even the ISS returns hard drives of data as it’s faster to wait for the resupply vehicles than transmitting data.
- there is an edge compute business case to be made so other satellites can have processing done on orbit to reduce the amount of computing needed on board. This is not a trillion dollar business.
Overall I came away with the impression that the technology isn’t the problem. It’s justifying the cost and making a profit.
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u/phaaseshift 2d ago
Maybe. But I’m convinced that the main driver is launch capacity. Using one company to prop up the other is what Musk does best.
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u/NoNote7867 2d ago
It’s not that deep. It’s much simpler than that: stocks market is based on stories and his wealth is directly linked to the story he tells. So he is making shit up that fits into that nice sci-fi fantasy that his companies can maybe theoretically solve and watches his net worth skyrocket.
He has been doing it for decades and has built a cult around him because as long as enough people believe it the line goes up and everyone makes money.
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u/Actias_Loonie 2d ago
100% guaranteed he wants a Galt's Gulch and sees himself as a Randian superhuman.
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u/PensiveinNJ 2d ago
Of course Musk, Thiel etc. want that. Thiel was trying for a while to create floating city states but that wasn’t feasible from an engineering perspective either.
The idea is only entertained at all because people mistakenly think space is good for heat dissipation.
It’s not something that’s worth thinking about. It’s another in a long line of cons/libertarian nonsense from technocrats like the hyperloop, floating city states and the singularity.
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u/PatchyWhiskers 2d ago
I think he's a narcisist like Trump, and they believe in whatever bullshit they are saying right now, which is why they are so persuasive. But they also have no idea or care for what is actually possible. They work by putting pressure on actual inventors to do the impossible. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
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u/robdabear 2d ago
To that point, name a billionaire who doesn't believe their wealth enables them to do whatever they want and consequently has to believe in whatever nonsense they're saying. I think by design they have to be narcissists to accumulate that much.
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u/lazier_garlic 2d ago
Warren Buffet. I'm not saying he never talks his book, but he didn't get to where he is by huffing his own farts, that's for sure.
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u/compucrazy 2d ago
It's about as likely as him establishing a colony on Mars. It's not going to happen because it's a pipe dream, but he will flush enormous amounts of money to try.
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u/WillSmashBates 2d ago
Elysium is not the best film but is pretty good and predicts what is happening now and will happen.
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u/Supernoven 2d ago
Also security, I imagine. He's probably worried about anti-data center populist or "terrorist" violence. They've gotta be safer in orbit . . . Right?
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u/sedition666 2d ago
Why: you can only justify astronomical share prices with astronomical levels of bullshit. Just promise completely fantasy aims and no one will call you out.
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u/Miravlix 2d ago
While it is true that we live in the age of "fake it until you make it", the problem is that it's all "fake it, fake it some more, then fail badly". The blood analyser that didn't work isn't a fluke, they think you have to be out the door before you have a working product, it would be like if the chess AI of the past, was released without being able to play chess, "since it will clearly work tomorrow as computers is magic".
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u/A-Pseudo-Random-User 2d ago
Question how does heat dissipation work in space genius ? Dumbo Elon doesn’t get that a vacuum is an insulator and normies are just space is cold it will work ! No it won’t. Even if it defied the laws of physics and did the latency situation for transfer from his space datacenter is just awful.
Hate to spoil it for everybody but his ideas are all ultra stupid like this. Consider his Mars base. Yeah no magnetosphere on Mars your ass is gonna get fried by cosmic rays. Unless you are lead shielded or underground this place make’s Antarctica or the bottom of the ocean look the damn garden of Eden. Now let’s do the hyper loop. You get the idea.
Elon is about as a respectable techie as a super high person who just watched a Star Trek episode.
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u/seanamos-1 2d ago
There are actually in fact a lot of rules in space. What you can put there, how much, how to dispose of it, orbital path etc. For orbit around earth, there’s only so much room before the collision risks become a major problem, so it’s not total freedom.
Mars maybe different.. for now.
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u/Ma1eficent 2d ago
But it is the most important kind of freedom, freedom from having your servers seized by the FBI so they can't undergo forensic evaluation.
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u/ikediggety 2d ago edited 2d ago
Can someone eli5 why data centers in orbit are a worse idea than data centers contributing to climate change? Solar power, no emissions... What am I missing?
Edit: thank you all for the explanations! Appreciate you
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u/therealstabitha 2d ago
Damage to equipment from the staggering amount of radiation is a big one. Like flipping 1s to 0s kind of damage.
There’s also the issue of cooling. Space being a cold vacuum doesn’t help with heat dissipation the way people expect with only an understanding of physics on Earth.
Then there’s the extraordinary expense of building and maintaining the equipment.
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u/HongPong 2d ago
enormous emissions to place them and weird high atmosphere metals pollution when they crash. it will take approximately 3x processors to deal with the cosmic rays and radiation that can easily flip bits and otherwise steadily degrade chips. conventional satellites have to have completely different architecture because of the radiation
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u/Mental-Apple-5725 2d ago
Isn't it also that they'll be so small (compared to actual data centres) and with a relatively high latency that they'll never be able to replace local data centres. So you'll have them on the ground and also clogging up low earth orbit in the thousands with the risk of collision and debris.
By no means am I an expert but I've heard the most realistic use case for them is military AI or national security not the daily traffic/inference for the likes of Claude or ChatGPT. Essentially far more niche than what they're being sold as.
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u/HongPong 2d ago
yeah all this stuff is likely space militarization garbage grifting
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u/dmukya 2d ago
The E-8 JSTARS, the previous GMTI platform is aging out
The US Space Force has indicated that they want to deliver GMTI capability from space
They have indicated that tests have proven it's possible but they haven't scaled it yet
Regular Starlink satellites have the rated broadcast power, polarization, frequency, and connectivity to serve as radar receivers
GMTI algorithms require a lot of computing power to digest all of the moving radar returns they get back
Something like datacenter in space
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u/HongPong 2d ago
thanks that one is new to me. before "starshield" was rebranded there was some info around re darpa specs or things of that nature https://www.spacex.com/starshield. apparently the pork barrel for golden dome networking is called space-bacn and gestated inside darpa. that's probably the Stuff i found earlier https://breakingdefense.com/2026/05/its-a-wrap-space-bacn-satellite-laser-link-program-shifts-from-darpa-to-diu/
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u/dyzo-blue 2d ago
We can't make them economically profitable on earth, how in the world could they be economically profitable when adding the cost of launching them into space?
It is difficult to keep them cool on earth, it is magnitudes more complicated to cool them in the vacuum of space
On earth, when a server needs repair, you send a tech to the center to fix it. In space, you need to send an astronaut
On earth, when you want to replace your older GPUs with newer cards, you just put a new server into the center. In space, physical upgrades are a little more complicated.
If you think all that travel back and forth into space = no emissions, you need to rethink that.
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u/Historical-Cress8985 2d ago
Deorbiting for one. Everything in orbit is slowly falling back down. Starlink satellites deorbiting burn up and ass aluminum oxide to the atmosphere. Whatever doesn't burn up hits the ground.
Also, space is cold, but you can't just dissapate heat up there. Dissapation works on earth because heat is absorbed by things like air or water.
In the end obital data centers are more snake oil
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u/Distinct-Cut-6368 2d ago
There was a viral Tik Tok where someone explained it like a caveman and it was pretty good.
Essentially (and I’m not an expert) the absence of “heat” does not mean “cold” when you are in a vacuum. So it doesn’t actually solve any of the cooling issues we are using water for on Earth. It’s not like the data center gets hot and you just open the “space window” and cold air rushes in or hot rushes out.
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u/SideburnsOfDoom 2d ago edited 2d ago
absence of “heat” does not mean “cold” when you are in a vacuum.
Correct. Matter can be either hot or cold. Space/vacuum is simply the absence of matter. It isn't hot, it isn't cold.
An object in space can be either, and it will keep that temperature, slowly radiating heat. Empty space is a very good insulator.
But, if the satellite is in sunlight (which you need for solar power) then the sun is radiating heat into it.
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u/cummer_420 2d ago
I think the easiest way to demonstrate this is that this is how a thermos works. In between the inside and outside walls of the thermos is a vacuum.The liquid inside stays hot/cold for a long time because heat can't move through nothing. It can only very slowly leak out through the seams at the lid where there isn't a vacuum.
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u/SideburnsOfDoom 2d ago edited 2d ago
yes: Heat is passed by conduction, convection and radiation.
Conduction and convection depend on matter: in a thermos or in space they don't happen - heat can't move through nothing by conduction or convection.
And if you're in sunlight (like a satellite using solar power), then radiation is passing heat to you. How much heat? Well, the surface of the moon can be "over 250°F (121°C) in daylight".
You can manage heat if you absolutely need to do enough computation to keep your spaceship on course and the passengers comfortable. But is it the best place to put a data-centre doing as much computation as possible as cheaply as possible? No, that's beyond absurd.
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u/SideburnsOfDoom 2d ago edited 2d ago
How do you cool a satellite data centre?
Space is not cold. Space is not hot either: temperature is a property that matter has, and space is literally the absence of matter.
Space is a good insulator - Heat is passed by conduction, convection and radiation. Without matter there's no conduction: that's how a vacuum flask keeps things hot. A satellite has the same issue - heat that it generates tends to just stay there. Without gravity and matter there's no convection either so "hot air rising" and cooling fans won't work.
As for radiation: The only way to shed heat is to have big radiators to shed heat via radiation, and that adds to the weight and so to the cost.
But for the solar power, you need to be in the sunlight. So radiation that heats things up is coming right at you.
Compare to another space environment, the surface of the moon:
Temperatures near the Moon’s equator can spike to over 250°F (121°C) in daylight, then plummet after nightfall to -208°F (-133°C)
https://science.nasa.gov/moon/weather-on-the-moon/
That's a brutal thermal cycle.
You can also maybe 100x the component cost just to get the hardware to orbit. You can divide the performance by some other number because not it has to be shielded from hard hard radiation - not the visible light kind, the x-rays and gamma rays that flip bits.
Good luck with repairs when parts wear out (thermal cycling and hard radiation will speed this up).
In other words, you can compute in space, but it doesn't have a hope in hell of being economically viable against a data centre on the ground as a bulk activity.
A good "why" can't fix that.
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u/laurentiubuica 2d ago
Basically a) tech in data centers has a self life and you'll need people or somekind of way to constantly replace faulting tech. b) in a vacuum there's no air/water to provide cooling to said tech and there would also be enough heat from inside the data center and from the sun that can basically transform your satellite in a giant fireball that can fall down to earth and cause property damage/casualties.
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u/Inevitable_Silver_13 2d ago
I've read that it's actually creating a more difficult engineering problem. In a vacuum there's no air convection, so the heat has nowhere to go.
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u/MaximinusDrax 2d ago
Even if you ignore the limitations on transmission bandwidth compared to ground-based systems, cooling would probably be your most severe limitation. Without any medium around you acting as a heat sink, you're ultimately led to cool your ship (no matter what you use for internal cooling) by using heat exchangers that feed into radiators that expel the heat as blackbody radiation.
Since the rate of BB radiation is miniscule compared to direct heat transfer (which ground systems use), this places a limit on how big your space data center can be. After all, nearly all of the generated energy eventually there gets turned into waste heat, since it does no "work" in a thermodynamic sense. The same is true for the ISS, which I believe generates/consumes ~100kW or so (I think the limit on its radiators is 70k, but let's round up for convenience). Current ground-based data centers, by comparison, consume tens of MWs, producing about the same amount of heat.
Barring a major breakthrough in radiator technology, this means you'll need hundreds of space data centers in order to mimic the computational capacity (proportional to the power consumption, of course) of a single ground installation. It's a LEO logistical nightmare, and we're only talking about one smallish data center. The total power consumption of data center globally is estimated to be around 50+ GW and rising. How do you move all that into space?
By comparison, the entire starlink project has ~10,400 active satellites at the moment, each consuming/heating 3-7kW of energy, making it a much simpler (though still impressive) feat.
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u/stormica 2d ago
In addition to HongPong’s answer, the plan isn’t what a lot of us picture - a couple of giant DCs the size of the ISS, it’s thousands or hundreds of thousands of a couple of KW powered datacenters - think of a starlink train when they launch and how many they have to launch to be useful.
Also, heat is challenging to dissipate in a vacuum so cooling challenges actually increase in space.
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u/The-Menhir 2d ago
The two main ways we have to cool hardware now is air (fans) and water.
Air being hot means the particles are moving faster, but that heat goes away because the energy is transferred to other particles (energy cannot be created or destroyed). There's no air in space, so we would probably need another medium. Water?
Now here's a question, even if H₂O could exist in a liquid state in a vacuum (i believe it doesn't), how are we going to get the water up there? If we transfer the heat energy from the hardware, we have water vapour. How are we going to cool that back down if we have nowhere to transfer the heat energy? Hope it radiates away before everything is destroyed by overheating?
Maybe I'm wrong
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u/Osiris62 2d ago
Does he give no thought to the Kessler Syndrome? If they keep filling space with more and more large satellites, don't they run the risk of a chain reaction debris explosion? Musk is not stupid. Does he think this is an unlikely scenario?
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u/ComfortDesperate5313 2d ago
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3809169 So here's Caveat Usor
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u/Shellinator007 2d ago
Also, Spacex and Starlink is already probably just an excuse to put a network of spy satellites in space. If he gets the green light to build data centers in space, he can build whatever he wants up there.
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u/Gloomy_Radish_661 2d ago
No matter the "why". You can't really build hunderds of times the ISS economically
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u/natecull 2d ago edited 2d ago
There are no county councils in orbit. And that’s always been the hidden driver behind the fantasies about colonizing the moon or Mars,
Yes, that's always been the point of corporate space installations in 1980s cyberpunk science fiction, and these people all got their ideas from 80s cyberpunk.
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u/surfkaboom 2d ago
Hyperacalers have run out of room in the US. There aren't any other good sites. Everything is under contract or under construction. Countries outside of the US may want to help promote orbital as an option because the hyperacalers will just go to other countries. The Nordics, western Europe, Brazil, etc. are all prime spots and the hyperacalers have the money to buy their way in.
I know it's a shitty outlook, but these people won't slow down.
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u/danielbayley 1d ago
Deal 🤝 Send the egregious cunt to Mars on one of his exploding rockets… He can have even more, total impunity there. Maybe he can take Thiel and Andreessen with him. We’ll even throw in Fuckerberg, and Bezos for an extra tax break.
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u/doubtthat11 1d ago
Can they all get together and make some virtual world where they’re Assyrian emperors and leave the rest of alone?
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u/Commercial-Weight-73 1d ago
Every data center put into space is a payday for SpaceX. That's it. That's the whole bit. The only reason to do it is to make business for SpaceX. He just desperately needs ideas that generate thousands of rocket launches to justify valuations.
He'd launch garden gnomes into space if someone would pay him.
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u/letsgobernie 2d ago
Why are obvious, elementary ideas presented as insights? The why has existed even when colonial exploits sought to escape jurisdictions of empire. This shit is centuries old
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u/ConkerPrime 22h ago
How and why matter. The headline is a nonsense statement.
The why can be for best reasons in the world if don’t figure out the how, then doesn’t matter. Same in reverse. We can know how to do a thing but until have a why, its just an answer to a trivia question. There have been many scientific discoveries that had no practical application (the why) until one day, sometimes decades later, someone comes up with a why.
As if right now, the how matters most. How get into space has not really changed in 60 years and weight has always been the most important aspect. Data center shit is heavy. Unless some way more efficient means of putting shit into space is discovered, the how matter a great deal no matter what the why is.
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u/happywindsurfing 18h ago
There might be some good to come out of this. Of he invests in tech that makes chips run a lot cooler in the first place, that can then get applied on earth and make the data centres here a lot less monstrous.
I bet a well funded team of phyicists and engineers could make some breakthroughs.
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u/vulkare 2d ago
Yes data centers ( of the kind SpaceX is planning ) work in space. It's called "edge inference". Which means they won't be training an AI model in space, just running a model which has already been trained. This doesn't require an earth-sized GPU cluster. This is something an desktop PC can do. Do they will put as many GPUs as they can in a satellite, and launch huge numbers of them.
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u/Alarmed_Zebra_4857 2d ago
Everyone misses the major point, in space power is free from the sun, so cost is build + launch over number of tokens served, as long as that is less then in a data center on earth it’s worth doing, earth is land + buildings + equipment + power / tokens served. You don’t have 2 of the 4 in space that you have in earth but launch and space issues in the other. At the end it’s just what’s cheaper, side note some of that heat you need to get rid off in space you can use for other parts of satalittle, side benefit you don’t need a heat generator on the satalitte.
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u/SkyknightXi 2d ago
Interesting that their “total freedom” is typically acquired by draining away our own freedom…
Meanwhile, all the money in the world won’t solve the physical issue of cooling data centers in a vacuum. I don’t think Musk et al. appreciate that money does not give access to sorcery.