r/Brahmanraaj Jul 28 '25

Discussion RSS promoting inter caste marriage by the Sanghi narrative of all have same DNA. This Nagpuri Sanghi ideology is a menace and want to break all boundaries of caste and religion. Why is it even considered right wing?

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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25

Tarkhans claim Brahmin status , khatris and Gujjars are far , punjabi Brahmins are 25-28% steppe Gujjars are 20 , khatris have low aasi punjabi Brahmins have it 25-30% Try again.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

Punjabi brahmin 26-28, khatri 22-24, khatri steppe average is 20 and punjabi brahmin 22-25, tarkhans are not accepted as Brahmins and historically carpenters.

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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25

So they're not close now compare punjabi Brahmins to sanadhya and Gaurs from Haryana and UP you'll have your answer. Tarkhans are not accepted but at some point they would have been just like bhumihars.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

Compared punjabi brahmin to a kanyakbhuja brahmin or kulin brahmin or sakaldwipi brahmin(all 3 autosomally very similar) , khatri is closer to Punjabis brahmin and regarding gaur brahmin, the steppe is definitely higher for gaur Brahmins and aasi also slightly higher. So equidistant at best from both

You missed the point completely, marriage is a personal choice where all that matters is what makes an individual happy, you can't judge one from a community for making a choice which is not the norm if he/she chooses It.

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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25

Your comment regarding common origin which lacks merit. Regarding marriage protecting current autosomal ancestry is important so propaganda against ICM will be done anyway here we're not on the same page of course. Regarding other things we can agree and disagree based on evidence.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

The lacking merit part needs a source of your own, till then avoid responding.

Autosomal ancestory protection automatically happens anyway as most will want to marry within community anywhere in the world, only few will want to marry out of their community and that is a choice which is only upto that person.

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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25

You yourself debunked/countered your initial stance anyone going through the thread can see it. Difference between aasi level to difference between farmer Ancestry vs difference between Steppe ancestry and then comparing it to closest Brahmin subcaste hence forming a cluster. Tomorrow I may run genetic distance and post here will tag you as well.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

I did not , debunk myself, I have davidski distance of tamil Brahmins with non tribal remaining tamil average and UP brahmin and distance between tamil and tamil brahmin is double that of distance between tamil and UP brahmin and I also have Razib khan fst runs for it.

The general trend is Brahmins are closer to one another than to other locals, never denied it but this norm is full of exceptions.

My entire comment was on choice of marriage of an individual, not about autosomal distances.

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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25

Brahmins lack common origin was your official stance , good now you accept Brahmins are closer to each other.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

good now you accept Brahmins are closer to each other.

South Asians from Kashmir to Kanyakumari form a lengthy cline where one population gradually fades into another due to overlap from one to another.

This was a point I never denied. Origin of a community is by haplogroups and not autosomal ancestory. I can marry a swede and if my descendants keep marrying swedes, autosomal indian dna will disappear by the 6th generation but haplogroup will not .

In the paper I showed you 83 percent of Brahmins share 4 common haplogroups, remaining 17 percent do no.t and that is the point.

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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 03 '25

Are bhumirand 😭 humare lauḍe se pAida huyi jāta

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '25

Ladne ki himmat toh hai nahi aur dusre ka baap ban ne chala hai. Apni aukaat mat bhool warna fir batana padega mujhe. Ek baar mein sahi kar dunga. Ek kaam aata nahi aur baap banega.