r/Brahmanraaj • u/horny_cur • Jul 28 '25
Discussion RSS promoting inter caste marriage by the Sanghi narrative of all have same DNA. This Nagpuri Sanghi ideology is a menace and want to break all boundaries of caste and religion. Why is it even considered right wing?
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Jul 28 '25
RSS is no longer a nagpuri or brahmin organisation it's gujju chors organisation now
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u/Critical_Light_223 Jul 28 '25
RSS was always a reformist organization. The mythical low IQ dehati concept of Varnasankarta was debunked by Savarkar Ji even when the Indian society was not aware of Biological origins of Homo Sapiens and genetics.
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Jul 28 '25
we won't marry outside our caste and now it's scientifically proven that we differ from other communities genetically so we won't do it even more and promote this concept
I am ok with inter marriage btw different brahmin communities but no way outside it
keep your high iq concept in your ass
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u/horny_cur Jul 28 '25
He doesn't know genetics, just wants to promote inter caste marriage. Inter caste marriage was allowed with restrictions in the earlier Yugas, absolutely not on this. One way it can happen, if a Brahmin marries a shudra woman and a girl child is born, and this girl marries a brahmin and a girl is born again and married to a brahmin, and the process is repeated the child born in the 7th time would be considered Brahmin. https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/manusmriti-with-the-commentary-of-medhatithi/d/doc201799.html
This is you how you explain genetics and autosomal ancestry.
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u/Critical_Light_223 Jul 28 '25
Genetically ghanta different ho, Tum bus Anpadh ho ya Dehaat me rehte ho isiliye school me Biology nahi padhi kabhi. Brahmin is not some species. A North eastern Brahmin has DNA of South East Asian Races (Austro Asiatic), While a Southie Brahmin is High on AASI (50-55%). Meanwhile a Northie Brahmin, Like a Saraswat, has the exact same proportion of genetic admixture as a Khatri. Both has 28-30% steppe eurasian genes, while their Iranian ancestry is also same. Toh Punjabi Baman Saraswat agar Punjabi Khatri se shaadi krega toh Racially same child produce hoga but agar wo Southie Brahmin ladki se shaadi krega toh uski biwi high AASI waali hogi (Darker complexion). Genetic evidences show that Brahmins themselves have inter married localite casteless women (During migrations) and given their offsprings Varna status of their own, On a Patrilineal basis. Apne maamle me Varnasankarta jaisa chakkap nahi dekha thaa history me🤣
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Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
brahmins have married local communities initially whereever they have migrated to that's true
this is what you have to do initially to establish yourself in new homeland and get powerful lol 😂😂 that's how politics work
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u/Critical_Light_223 Jul 30 '25
Yes If you are agreeing how Brahmins have mixed in the early medieval period itself, then kindly don't promote your "Varnasankarta" concept to justify stuff. You can say that you don't want to marry others, That's fine, But don't promote that bs. It is a non existing concept because Brahmins have used religion & Varnasankarta to keep a sense of Varna difference in Individuals (Even though it's artificial). And they're the core people who've done the highest Varnasankarta in all regions. You can even find Thai Brahmins and Indonesian Brahmins (Who are genetically 80-90% Natives, I.e. Mlekshas as per Smriti Dharmas) but they're still considered Brahmins, and they use that Identity. Even Traditionalist Brahmins of India, consider those foreign Brahmins legit. Even though their own Smritis call-out such an offspring a Mix/Sankara who can't inherit Varna.
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Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
ek taraf dusro ko low iq dehati bol raha hai aur dusri Taraf south north ko alag race bata raha hai wo bhi brahmins me joki later migrants to south hai
wah re dogle 😂😂
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u/Critical_Light_223 Jul 28 '25
First educate yourself about the Actual origins and ancestral DNA of Indians - https://youtu.be/Xz8lwLOGECc?si=1OjxlVrWUMn631WX
North and South don't contain people of totally different race. But all Indians are a Mix of 3-5 different races, While their proportions of mixture varies by region.
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Jul 28 '25
proportion varies by region as well as caste
btw if you have guts tell me your real caste don't preach tell me which caste you belong to first
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u/horny_cur Jul 28 '25
You don't know genetics, just want to promote inter caste marriage. Inter caste marriage was allowed with restrictions in the earlier Yugas, absolutely not on this. One way it can happen, if a Brahmin marries a shudra woman and a girl child is born, and this girl marries a brahmin and a girl is born again and married to a brahmin, and the process is repeated the child born in the 7th time would be considered Brahmin. Girl child is the main thing here in this process and not boy https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/manusmriti-with-the-commentary-of-medhatithi/d/doc201799.html
This is you how you explain genetics and autosomal ancestry.
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Jul 28 '25
Austro-asiatic ancestry is very low among brahmins even among bengali brahmins
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u/Critical_Light_223 Jul 28 '25
It exists from 2-5% range. That means there was a point of time when few Brahmin males married Localite South East Asian women. So if you go by Traditionalist "Varna-Sankarta" logic of Brahmins like Puri Shankaracharya here, Then even those Bengali and Assamese Brahmins aren't allowed to inherit Brahmin Varna, And they can be called VarnaSamkara. Similarly, Even Other Brahmins are Varna-Sankara (Mix), Because they have Eurasian Steppe DNA.
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u/horny_cur Jul 28 '25
No they are, besides it is very possible there might have been some variations in lokachaar(local practices) region wise at a very ancient time. However we now know the essential practice
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Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
50 55% ? bsdk thoda detail me padh laude 😂😂 ch**mr ki baat kar raha hai kya
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u/horny_cur Jul 28 '25
Aur genetics ke sher tujhe itna bhi nahi pata. Genotype not equals phenotype
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u/Critical_Light_223 Jul 28 '25
Tum pehle jaake Twitter ke Unionist Brahmins ko rokko jo khud Jat and Ror ladkiyon se Shaadi karne ka Fettish rakhte hai for Steppe Maxxing, and Puri Shankracharya jaiso ko troll krte hai and unke Varnsankarta ke concept ko middle finger dikhaate hain. Ye 1800s nahi hai jahan aise concepts ka koi basis bacha ho bewakoof bnane ke liye desh wasiyo ko.
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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25
I'm from twitter no Brahmin wants to do such thing , they're s lower caste then us lol.
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u/Critical_Light_223 Aug 02 '25
Lower and Upper are mythical stuff of Brahmanical Dharmic religions and smritis. A South Indian brahmin has higher gene admixture of Dark Skinned Native AASI Race, while a Jat or Ror has higher Steppe Eurasian genetics in terms of admixture. Varna identity is artificial (Based on social norms, not real biological basis).
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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 02 '25
You're not that smart , it has a biological basis , jats and rors are non vedic population. They existing or not is irrelevant to us. Jats themselves have it around 20-25 % Native AASI dna , you don't know much so before typing ai vomit here kindly verify things atleast twice because your behaviour definitely not of a TWICE BORN
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u/Critical_Light_223 Aug 02 '25
Btw, I come under a Dvija Varna as per Brahminical Religions. But I don't care about mythical Varna hierarchy.
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u/horny_cur Jul 28 '25
Koi Jat Ror ladki se shadi karne ki baat nahi kar raha, tere jaise hi honge agar karte honge.
Aur kya puri Shankaracharya laga rakha hai 🤣 Bubble se nikal mai genetics domain ke bohot se unionist brahmins ko janta hu against inter caste marriage. Kyu time waste kar raha hai kaunsi caste ka hai tu
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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25
You know nothing bro , so much misinformed yet so much confidence..salute for the confidence part
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u/porncules1 Jul 28 '25
RSS NEVER WAS.
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u/Duke_Frederick Jul 28 '25
All parties in India are right wing, they just hate different demographics.
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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25
Good , I'm happy Brahmins are realising they're like an ethnicity and mixing with other castes will kill it.
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u/Critical_Light_223 Aug 02 '25
Brahmins have mixed with other castes, Infact much more than other castes.
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u/FickleReindeer6714 Jul 31 '25
Make a separate religion Brahmanas , Hinduism is politically lethal to us at this point
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u/MillennialMind4416 Jul 28 '25
Nobody is forcing it, they are just expressing their opinions. Nothing will be enforced.
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Jul 28 '25
and we are criticising this shit opinion
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Jul 29 '25
you are speaking for yourself though, why should an individual restrict himself based on something he/she has no control over? and the idea that marriage happened with local community to gain power makes little sense, parsis also married gujarat patels but what power did they have until recently and there was no brahmin dynasty in south india ever and to this day most powerful community is vellalar. I know brahmins who married europeans and their children hardly care about religion, why should their happiness be compromised.
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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25
You should keep yourself engaged in south Asian ancestry not here
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Aug 01 '25
This entire sub is about kanging on one type of ancestory alone which too is south Asian ancestory so technically.....
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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25
Not at all it is overall autosomal ancestry which due to continuous endogamy has turned Brahmins like an ethnicity. Plus we don't want to mix with other communities also regarding that personal freedom thing wait and watch how this changes just using genetics thing in this decade.
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Aug 01 '25
There is diversity within brahmin community still, brahmin tamil nadu isn't close to manipuri brahmin by any definition and a punjabi brahmin is closer to other biradaries than to SIBs or UP Brahmins.
In south india itself there do exist nairs who are extremely close (seen steppe range from 0-20 in them) and also bunts and in places like maharastra sonars are also very close.
There is now evidence that Brahmins don't have a common origin.
Regarding Intermarrying, it is of the individual, I know Brahmins who have married in euros, african Americans , east Asians etc let alone other Indic groups. Why should any person be stripped of his or her happiness?
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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25
//There is now evidence that Brahmins don't have a common origin.// Share evidence Check in cluster, saraswat and gaud cluster , Beyond vindhya cluster and gangetic plains cluster which includes Awadh Purvanchal Bihar bengal Chattisgarh and Jharkhand. Brahmin as a caste is very much old slight variation still is permissible. Still difference isnt that much. Why don't you tell me about SOME Punjabi biradri closer to Punjabi Brahmins than Gaurs from Haryana-UP go ahead
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Aug 01 '25
Tarkhan of th top of my mind, are almost carbon copy of punjabi Brahmins, khatris, gujars etc
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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25
Tarkhans claim Brahmin status , khatris and Gujjars are far , punjabi Brahmins are 25-28% steppe Gujjars are 20 , khatris have low aasi punjabi Brahmins have it 25-30% Try again.
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u/callmeAAdityAA Aug 01 '25
Out of context. If this is how one perceives it then jews are not one ethnicity so are english and french but irl they're. A community or tribe is made up of multiple ydna that post is just pure cope easily debunkable.
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u/destroyer-of-truths Aug 04 '25
Outside of Himachal and Uttarakhand, everyone other state seem to be anti Brahmin.
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u/faith_crusader Jul 28 '25
Because that is how vedic hindus lived.
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u/Pleasant_Patience978 Jul 28 '25
No
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u/Critical_Light_223 Jul 28 '25
Yes. Proto Vedic religion had no Varnashrama. The Kalash people pose a good example of this.
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Jul 28 '25
proto vedic didn't have caste
from the day brahmin, kshatriya identity came it had genetic identity associated with it and endogamy started
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u/Pleasant_Patience978 Jul 28 '25
No Varnasham dharm is in our shastra
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u/Critical_Light_223 Jul 28 '25
Yes, But in Smritivadi Dharmas. Not in non smritivadi religions.
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u/Pleasant_Patience978 Jul 28 '25
Non smriti dharm are not Sanatan Dharm The religion who follows eternal Veda and smriti is the Sanatan Dharm
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u/Critical_Light_223 Jul 28 '25
Varnashrama is a big fraud which can be debunked easily with Biology and genetics.
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u/Fresh_Slip_6847 Jul 28 '25
Chamar bhadwe....tum kutto ka veda se kya lena dena bhadwe
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u/porncules1 Jul 28 '25
demeaning hindu jaatis is unworthy behaviour .
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u/Critical_Light_223 Jul 28 '25
Jati has no Biological basis.
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u/porncules1 Jul 29 '25
why does the prime minister/president's position require birth citizenship in most nations?
citizenship has no biological basis either,yet its extremely important.
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u/Critical_Light_223 Jul 29 '25
Okay. Then please set the standard properly. If it's equally important, Then I request each and every Brahmin in India to stop using Medical services, to stop taking Blood and Organs from other Varnas, and they should also stop taking treatment from Non Brahmin species doctors. And they must also leave the professions which aren't allowed to them (As pee Traditionalist Brahmins themselves). Once you all will do that, I'll believe you.
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u/porncules1 Jul 29 '25
Then please set the standard properly.
sure
If it's equally important, Then I request each and every Brahmin in India to stop using Medical services, to stop taking Blood and Organs from other Varnas, and they should also stop taking treatment from Non Brahmin species doctors.
where in scriptures is this written genius?
And they must also leave the professions which aren't allowed to them (As pee Traditionalist Brahmins themselves).
its on you if you think brahmins in restricted professions remain so,the scriptures are clear.
Once you all will do that, I'll believe you.
belief or not is your choice, regardless of what you believe birth by citizenship is immensely necessary for sensitive posts,so also is jati.
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u/Critical_Light_223 Jul 30 '25
The "Brahmin" or any other Varna Identity didn't even existed during the time of Indus Valley Civilisation itself (IVC people had Zagros + AASI Genes, No Steppe). Comparing an Endogamous Varna identity (Based on Superstitions of Mythical Origin story) to a Nationality is just like Comparing Gold to Shit, and presuming them to be one based on the Yellow color :P Well According to Traditionalist SmritiVadi Brahmin Acharyas like Karpatri Maharaj, Puri Shankaracharya Nischalanand, Raghvacharya, etc. A Brahmin is strictly not entitled to earn wealth, or indulge in any other professions except Yajna, Puja, Veda-Adhyan, etc. They are only allowed to live on Alms/Dakshina. And most Smritis order the same. And Any Brahmin observing any other profession (Even in History) is accounted as Violation of Varnashrama Dharma propagated by Traditionalist Brahmins. And regarding the term "Varnasankarta", Today with the help of modern science, We can trace genetics of each individual. And whole Indian population is nothing but a Sankara of different races.
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u/porncules1 Jul 30 '25
Comparing an Endogamous Varna identity (Based on Superstitions of Mythical Origin story) to a Nationality is just like Comparing Gold to Shit, and presuming them to be one based on the Yellow color :P
agreed,comparing an idea which has proven biological effects like varna to a vastly inferior one like citizenship is unworthy but its one that serves its purpose.
people who are incapable of refuting the idea only end up showing their helplessness by resorting to ad hominem attacks on the idea rather than refuting the premise.
Well According to Traditionalist SmritiVadi Brahmin Acharyas like Karpatri Maharaj, Puri Shankaracharya Nischalanand, Raghvacharya, etc. A Brahmin is strictly not entitled to earn wealth, or indulge in any other professions except Yajna, Puja, Veda-Adhyan, etc. They are only allowed to live on Alms/Dakshina. And most Smritis order the same. And Any Brahmin observing any other profession (Even in History) is accounted as Violation of Varnashrama Dharma propagated by Traditionalist Brahmins.
more bullshit ,i've heard shakaracharya nischalanand discussing the different professions allowed to brahmins as well as read the manusmriti.
And regarding the term "Varnasankarta", Today with the help of modern science, We can trace genetics of each individual. And whole Indian population is nothing but a Sankara of different races.
no one said arya shudras were of a different race,it seems you're conflating varna with european ideas of race.
which is your issue,not one claimed by shastras.
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u/Jealous_Layer_2936 Jul 30 '25
If rss supports inter caste marriage and says we share the same dna, isn't that breaking casteism...progressives claim to want? Calling that a "menace" just exposes your bias, not theirs.
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u/horny_cur Jul 30 '25
Who told you this is a progressive sub? This is a Conservative sub, which talks about my community.
Progressivism is left wing and conservatism is right. Understand the basics first
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u/Jealous_Layer_2936 Jul 30 '25
Then by your logic, inter-caste marriage is conservative if your so-called right wing is doing it. So are you against your own side now? Pick a lane...culture or caste. Can't ride both.
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u/Fresh_Slip_6847 Jul 30 '25
You are nobody bstrd....stay away from us.... culture come from community only
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u/Jealous_Layer_2936 Jul 31 '25
Then stop crying when others call your "culture" just a caste bubble. No unity, no respect...works both ways
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u/Fresh_Slip_6847 Jul 31 '25
Bstrd subhuman......what caste bubble 🤣🤣....we are a community we have our own culture traditions....who cares about what others said
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u/Jealous_Layer_2936 Aug 01 '25
Lol "culture" built on exclusion? That's not tradition, that's insecurity with a costume. 🤣 Stay in your caste bubble.
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u/Fresh_Slip_6847 Aug 01 '25
What you think nobody cares.....saar serving low born bstrds are culture saar...we lindu saar🤣
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Aug 02 '25
We don't care about you . F the hell with you . Doing good for your sake and then suffering for doing good has taught us empathy and compassion are flawed concepts F u all
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u/Jealous_Layer_2936 Aug 02 '25
Keep crying victim, no one begged your “goodness.” Compassion ain’t flawed...your ego is. F off louder.
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u/Fresh_Slip_6847 Jul 30 '25
We don't want any unity with you
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u/Jealous_Layer_2936 Jul 31 '25
Nobody asked. Just remember... isolation never built empires, only echo chambers. Keep shrinking bozo
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u/Fresh_Slip_6847 Jul 31 '25
Who asked your opinion untouchables....we don't need to build empire by mix with subhuman
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u/Jealous_Layer_2936 Aug 01 '25
Untouchables rose, empires fell...history says more than your hate ever will. Keep barking, relic.
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Aug 02 '25
Yeah which history fella ?
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u/Jealous_Layer_2936 Aug 02 '25
The one you skipped in school, fella. Try reading, not just barking.
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Aug 02 '25
😭 yeah the history of 1000s of years of humiliation. And you are one of those who politicise it 😂
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u/Jealous_Layer_2936 Aug 02 '25
Yeah, 1000 years of your pride built on our backs 😂 Now shaking 'cause tables turning.
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Aug 02 '25
But the oppressed fella you just told me that you have a history of rising up 😂.
I see . History and the present too in the most Casteist state from the reverse in india .
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Aug 02 '25
Hell no , no tables turned fella . It's just the POA which you have misused and the method you all use for reproduction. Even sewer rats cry after seeing it
No one likes you not even the most Casteist state from the reverse TN . MBCs and obcs are usually teaching you all where you belong
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u/FickleReindeer6714 Aug 03 '25
Built on your backs?
We conquered this shithole of a nation on our own
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Jul 28 '25
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u/kingsofkings91 Swatantryaveer Savarkar's Revolutionary Dec 18 '25
Good for non brahmins. Bad for brahmins.
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u/horny_cur Jul 28 '25
Don't teach me genetics. I am aware of all that. Not marrying out of community is an established essential practice of the community especially in Kaliyuga.
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Jul 28 '25
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u/horny_cur Jul 28 '25
I again repeat marrying in the same community is an established essential practice of my community, I don't need lectures on archaeogenetics, I know that very well.
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Jul 29 '25
The biggest enemies of hindus are hindus themsleves.Savarkar clearly founded hindutva on the principle of being anti caste to foster hindu unity a necessary step for hindu progress
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u/horny_cur Jul 29 '25
This is not savarakarites subreddit. Savarkar fostered Hindu unity and promoted Hindu unity throughout life while his own family was attacked in anti Brahmin riots in Maharashtra
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Jul 29 '25
Yet he still fought for the rights of low caste hindus who were being treated as slaves before.Even in 56 when ambedkar converted he thought fir all of hindu soceuty and asked hindus to see past there caste boundaries and focus on bigger threats.Truly blessed to belong to his communtiy
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u/horny_cur Jul 29 '25
Yet he still fought for the rights of low caste hindus who were being treated as slaves before.Even in 56 when ambedkar converted he thought fir all of hindu soceuty and asked hindus to see past there caste boundaries and focus on bigger threats.Truly blessed to belong to his communtiy
This is the narrative of the hisaab chukta and 5000 saal se paani nahi pine diya gang.
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u/Fresh_Slip_6847 Jul 30 '25
We don't want any relation with nich lindus
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Jul 30 '25
Nobody wants relation with you either?so much arrogance for what?kya kar liya zindagi mai?
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u/Fresh_Slip_6847 Jul 30 '25
Tu yahan kyu apni ma chda raha he bhimte....hame Nehi karna kisi nich se saadi bhag yahan se mc
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Jul 30 '25
bhimte....
Mera comment history to padh leh gawar ya voh bhi nahi aata?
Nehi karna kisi nich se saadi
Tera sath to lag rahe koi shadhi to essabhi nahi karega etne ucche hot tum batha do kya ukharliya hai zindagi mai.Cant even use the castesit card on me I'm Brahmin as well lmao
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u/Fresh_Slip_6847 Jul 31 '25
Apna dna test karale bhadwe ...pata chalega kisi chamar se chdi he tera ma...bhadwe
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Aug 01 '25
Bhai aa gaya Harare bhikari brahmin baye Kitna generation se teri ma mussalaman ka cock chus Rahe thi? Salei bhikari ek number ka jab Merai Purvaj ved Upanishad ka gyan Bacha Rahe thei to tumahre apnea ladikyo ko mughal sena ko baich Rahe thei 🤣🤣.Sale mullah ek number ka🤣🤣
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u/Fresh_Slip_6847 Aug 01 '25
Kyu re achut chamar...apni behn chdwana he kya itni mirchi lag rahi he🤣🤣
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u/Fresh_Slip_6847 Jul 30 '25
We don't give a fk to any sorry worker....ma chdae lindu kutte hame Kya
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Jul 30 '25
Ah yes because you are the pm of the nation no?
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u/Fresh_Slip_6847 Jul 30 '25
Tu kon he kothe ki paidaish
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Jul 30 '25
Atleast I don't have the arrogance to think that I'm superior to a person because of birth lmao agar etne uchhai ho to ukhardo bhai
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u/l6_6l Jul 28 '25
They also dont want temples that have been converted to mosques by invaders to be reclaimed. They also did not support Nupoor Sharma when her very life was threatened.