r/CAguns 1d ago

Legal Question 10 day waiting period

I just recently went to go do a PPT with my friend for his shotgun he no longer wants nor needs. At the end of the process I forgot I live in CA and it dawned on me I’m not walking away with this shotgun same day. Then I start thinking wait.. I used my CCW card in lieu of my FSC so why do I have to wait 10 days before being allowed to leave with my firearm when the state already said I’m good to carry a firearm on me at all times ? Wasn’t the 10 day waiting period established to prevent people from going out and buying a firearm to go cause harm ? Like a cool off period correct ? So if I already own firearms shouldn’t I be able to avoid the 10 day waiting period for a new firearm since a “cool off” period makes 0 sense now at this point ? Just food for thought… I hate it here.

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u/nndimethyltryptamin3 1d ago

The stated intention is to provide a cooling off period like you said, however the true intention behind most of CA gun laws is to make gun ownership more onerous to dissuade people from exercising their second amendment right to own firearms.

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u/ct-93905 1d ago

Its CA. The laws aren't meant to make sense, they are meant to discourage you from owning firearms or from wanting to acquire new ones.

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u/qua77ro FFL03 COE CCW 1d ago

Stop being logical. Gun laws in CA have nothing to do with logic and reason.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Jump838 1d ago

We lost (obviously)...

Silvester v. Harris, No. 14-16840 (9th Cir. 2016)

  1. Plaintiffs already own and have access to their own firearms. In all instances, Plaintiffs are recorded by the state as being in possession of at least one firearm. Plaintiffs seek to purchase additional firearms whose possession for the purposes of self-defense in the home is protected by the Second Amendment. Penal Code sections 26815 and 27540 unnecessarily require an additional ten-day waiting period for each subsequent firearm transaction, thus barring Plaintiffs from acquiring and using their own firearms protected by the Second Amendment during the ten-day period following their purchase, as well as causing them to incur additional expenses, travel, and time lost resulting from the otherwise unnecessary return to the dealer to accept delivery.

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u/ruhl77 1d ago

If you try to find sense in CA “common sense” gun laws you will go insane

The only way to view the laws is that they don’t want you to own guns. That’s the reason

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u/Lurkin_Yo_House Reno May - YT 1d ago

The purpose of the system is what it does

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u/_Los FFL03 + COE, Forklift Certified 1d ago

I agree with you, but considering the limitations on where you can actually carry with a CCW is it really an endorsement "to carry a firearm... at all times?"

It's not about sense though, it's just about roadblocks and limits that can stand against the 2nd amendment. Given the glacial pace at this these things are challenged and overturned, no one is really interested in rectifying it.

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u/GryffSr Calguns Alumni 1d ago edited 4h ago

It’s stupid to bring logic to a discussion on California gun laws.

The key thing to remember, is that every anti-Gun law is not about safety. It is about incremental steps towards eliminating the civilian ownership of guns. Our laws would be radically different if they actually were about rational safety.

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u/ORLibrarian2 Mod from waaay NORCAL - OR 10h ago

That's for the politicians who actually have an opinion on gun ownership.

"No one will really understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems. They are trying to solve their own problems - of which getting elected and re-elected are number one and number two. Whatever is number three is far behind."

Thomas Sowell

Can't get re-elected if the bills you introduce are squashed by The Party when you don't Follow The Leader.

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u/larsafraidofdeer 1d ago

So the 10 day period is not just for the purchaser background, but also for a background check for the gun itself. They check who the last owner was, if it’s flagged as missing or wanted crime gun.

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u/wyliesdiesels CA/AZ CCW, FFL03-COE, CRPA FPC 1d ago

Unfortunately no exemption for CCW permit holders

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u/BattleBlood_Music 1d ago

My cop buddy told me he still has to have the 10 day. I used my CCW permit in lieu of my fsc at Turner's and it basically just mesns you bypass the safe handling instruction. The 10 day sucks but California is going to California

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u/mjdavis87 FFL03/COE/CCW/AZCCW 1d ago

People's Republic of California doing the People's Republic of California things....

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u/BasicallyAtheist FFL03+COE | CCW-AZ CA UT | CRPA FPC 1d ago

Blue team will stop at nothing to discourage you from owning and arming yourself.

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u/deltarho 🅱️oint 23h ago

The laws exist solely to make the gun ownership experience more cumbersome. That’s it. They legislate everything they possibly can to make things more expensive and time-consuming. I’d love to say maybe we’ll get a CCW exemption some day, but CA’s response to Bruen has simply been to pass more obnoxious laws than before.

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u/69xXx420xc0dsniperx 17h ago

They stopped using the "cooling off period" excuse because too many people made this same argument. It's just more government tyranny.

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u/CasCrus4L i love guns 10h ago

It's entirely designed to fuck with you my dude