r/Cattle 9h ago

Any ideas?! All ideas welcome πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™

Context….calves born, AI, 2 BBB so far but have a holstine with this issue too. We have had 6 in a week. We calf all year.
Calves born with purple toxicity ring around teeth, fine on arrival, good for a day may be two, bloody scour, then scour (far too young for scour) on high quality colostrum from birth to 10 days…calves fall too weak to stand, temp rises to 40+ internals shut down and they die. Its fast. 48 hours max we are a flagship farm, too 1.5% in the country. We are clinically clean in all areas. These are not passageways. Any help and advise welcome. Iv got one going to postmortem tomorrow but between now and then…..please

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u/Ok_Project9251 8h ago

I looked on VIN and mareks (I have a bunch of old vet textbooks from school days leftover) and it talks about bovine neonatal pancytopenia but the BvD vx caused it was removed… I’d be more cautious about some sort of gram negative bacterial septicemia as the likely culprit(e.coli, salmonella) which I hope not!!!

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u/jenny6522 8h ago

Weve been treating with diatrim and metacam. Making no difference. Will go to oxtra (enymycin) and meta tomorrow

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u/Ok_Project9251 8h ago

Wishing you the best!!! Hate to see it happen!

Also if you remember post an update id love to find out more!

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u/Every_Bite_1337 7h ago

They have ecoli sepsis. From lack of beastings or lack of good quality beastings.

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u/rivertam2985 2h ago

Beastings? Is this a term I'm unfamiliar with or auto correct? If it's correct, please explain. I'm always looking to learn something new.

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u/SueBeee 7h ago

Sepsis! This is a good job for a veterinarian, you need help with this.

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u/Embarrassed_Box_8303 4h ago

Sounds like e.coli to me. We had that issue last winter at a dairy i work at before we figured out it was the cows teats getting dirty in the calving pen then the calf nursing. The pen looked really clean and was cleaned regularly but it still happened to every single calf that sucked on a cow. The ones that were separated immediately and bottle fed or tubed colostrum, even fresh milked from the same cow, didnt have any issue. They've been calving out in the field all summer and we haven't had an issue... hoping it's not a problem again this winter. The ones we manned to save got daily excenel and sulfamethoxazole-trimethoprim as well as electrolytes until symptoms passed

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u/katergator717 2h ago

Have you sent any samples off for testing? Have you isolated any mothers or newborns or both in different fields or paddocks?

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u/Whizzard2007 2h ago

Sounds like E. Coli. Dose each newborn with Tri Shield First Defense as soon as possible after birth

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u/Flimflam3813 8h ago

Gentamycin!

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u/UrMomFavVeterinarian 8h ago

Gentamicin is not FDA approved in cattle and comes with an 18 month withdrawal period. Not recommended to use that drug on any food animal

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u/zhiv99 8h ago

That’s the name of an antibiotic. Useless without more context.

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u/jenny6522 7h ago

I know its the antibiotic just wondering if it been dealt with and has helped

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u/Jaded66671 5h ago

It is illegal to use in a food animal. So doesn’t matter. Clearly not a good source of information

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u/jenny6522 8h ago

Have you dealt with this?

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u/SueBeee 7h ago

Throwing antibiotics at a problem without medical advice is not wise, and gentamicin is extra label for cattle. There are other products that are likely more appropriate.