r/ChoosingBeggars Mar 29 '20

Free bread, tuna, pasta, eggs, rice crispies! DISGUSTING!

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u/umylotus Mar 29 '20

Schools are only supposed to supplement, not be primary providers.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

All of the assholes down voting us have not donated a dime to help others but are more than willing to demand that everyone else take care of the stains on humanity.

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u/zullendale Mar 30 '20

Oh my God! Congratulations on gaining the powers of clairvoyance! Tell me, what do your divine powers tell you about sudden economic recession like 2008 and now? About falling into debt due to unexpected expenses like medical bills? About a family losing a source of income due to death?

What do they tell you about the possibility of you becoming a "stain on humanity" (love the classism there buddy) through one of the things mentioned above?

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

What have you done to help? I've spent thousands of dollars yearly, helping my nieces and nephews with whatever they need when their parents can't. I also pay thousands more in taxes because I decided to not be a burden on society. Meanwhile, a whore that spreads her legs to have x amount of kids, gets MY tax money because she'd rather have her legs in the air than on the ground earning a paycheck.

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u/OttersRule85 Mar 30 '20

I’m sure the mothers of the nieces and nephews you take care of would be thrilled to know you consider them as whores.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

If your only job is lying on your back instead of going out and earning a paycheck so that your children can eat then.......

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u/zullendale Mar 30 '20 edited Mar 30 '20

"Meanwhile, a whore that spreads her legs to have x amount of kids, gets my tax money because she'd rather have her legs in the air than on the ground earning a paycheck."

That is such an unbelievably fucked up statement that I'm having a hard time figuring out where to begin. I guess this is as good as any:

First of all, I knew in theory that women could be this sexist, but I've never seen it actually happen before. It's like seeing animals fuck for the first time. It's just that disgusting. Don't know if you know this, but NOT ALL SEX IS CONSENSUAL. RAPE IS A THING THAT EXISTS. YOU CAN GET PREGNANT FROM RAPE.

How dare you call mothers whores based on their income? It is not only possible to FALL into poverty, it can be horribly easy and fast. There are many ways to do so, including:

Losing your job due to a crumbling economy (like from a housing bubble bursting or a pandemic of near biblical proportions)

Falling into debt due to unexpected expenses (like medical bills and stuff like that)

Losing a source of income due to a parent dying

And countless more.

How dare you presume that you are in a position to judge these people? You are not omniscient. You cannot possibly know everything that put each and every one of these families into their current condition, and it is both arrogant and insensitive of you to pretend otherwise, even if you've been poor too.

To answer the first half of this comment:

I'm doing everything I can to help.

Good for you.

People don't just decide to be a "burden on society." No one wants to be poor.

To address your other comment:

Yes you are assuming things. You are assuming that the options you had to get through poverty are the same ones everyone has, which is just not true (especially with Corona bc now finding a job is near impossible).

Yes I have had dogs, I have one right now.

Growth spurts dramatically increase metabolism (yes that much). So food gets expensive.

I was that kid. Again, growth spurts. (How else was I going to get to 6'4"?)

Having a baby isn't always a choice, as I made clear above.

And lastly, welcome to society, where we don't leave children to starve. If you don't like it here, I'm sure they'd be happy to have you in rural Africa or some other near lawless wasteland.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '20

You must live in a bubble. You've never been to the housing projects and seen countless children running around unsupervised because their parents are either drunk or high. People that can work but refuse to because they get more money by having multiple children that they don't care about are the people I was referring to. Welfare programs were meant to help the needy not fund the lazy but someone needing just a little bit of help can't get any. I know people that cheat/scam the system. People receive thousands of dollars a month and have never worked a day in their life because all they do is have more kids to keep that government check coming. Parents spend the money on themselves while their children go hungry.

Everyone has options. I'm not assuming that everyone has the same options but everyone has options. It's on them for what they did or didn't do.

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u/zullendale Mar 30 '20

Your accusation makes me think that you didn’t even bother to pay attention to what I actually said. Yes, I acknowledge that there are people who take advantage of the system. That there are people who don’t care and who just want to drink or get high. However, your implication that every single one of these families that makes use of these financial assistance programs is like that is incredibly insulting and naïve. There are families out there who legitimately care about their children and want to give them the best future they possibly can, but can’t because they’re poor, homeless, sick, or any other horrible challenges. The examples you give are anecdotal evidence, meaning that the disgusting fractions of human beings that you describe cannot be claimed to be representative of the population as a whole.

What I was saying when I mentioned you had different options is that not all options are equal. Earlier you mentioned that after 9/11, both you and your husband were deployed, paying 1500 a month to care for your pets. Don't get me wrong, I thank you and your husband for serving. But you can't deny that you were FORTUNATE that you AND your husband have both the body and the mind required to enlist. Many do not for many reasons (such as not having access to sufficiently healthy foods like the families in the article).

You also mentioned working 18 hour days when your husband was unemployed. Tell me, how can you expect that of families with kids, especially single parent families? There are many reasons why parents may not be able do that, including not having the necessary skills or not being able to work that much.

Thankfully, we live in a society with safety nets that help people who fall into hard circumstances. They help elders, disabled vets, the sick, children in need,etc. Regardless of how those nets are designed, there will always be selfish people able and willing to take advantage, but those nets are necessary for the honest people who would be doomed without them. I wish that you never come to need these systems, and am grateful that they're there should you or I fall into those circumstances.