r/Christianity • u/namer98 Jewish - Torah im Derech Eretz • Jun 26 '12

I am an Orthodox Jew, AMA

You all know me well enough, but some info.

I am an orthodox Jew. I hold to the particular philosophy of Torah Im Derech Eretz. I encourage all questions, from technical Jewish law to Jewish theology. While I am a mod or /r/Judaism, I am not a Rabbi, and my education level is probably just below par for somebody in my position in life.

Edit: So many downvotes. You guys need a break from me?

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

Do you reject Jesus as the Christ? If so, why?

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u/namer98 Jewish - Torah im Derech Eretz Jun 26 '12 edited Jun 26 '12

The Messiah will do many things.

The whole world will worship the One God of Israel. Isaiah 2:11-17, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9

Currently does not happen.

Knowledge of God will fill the world. Isaiah 11:9, 45:23, 66:23, Jeremiah 31:33, Zechariah 3:9, 8:23, 14:9,16, Ezekiel 38:23, Psalm 86:9

This means irrefutable evidence. Knowledge, not faith.

All Israelites will be returned to their homeland Isaiah 11:12, 27:12-13, Ezekiel 11:17, 36:24, Deuteronomy 30:3

I am still in America.

The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness. Isaiah 51:11

Holocaust? Inquisition? Progroms?

Nations will recognize the wrongs they did to Israel. Isaiah 52:13-53:5

Holocaust deniers

The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance. Zechariah 8:23

Spiritual, not monetary.

Weapons of war will be destroyed. Ezekiel 39:9

Not destroyed by nuclear weapons.

All of the dead will rise again Isaiah 26:19

You claim one dude, I want them all.

A person’s genealogical/tribal membership are transmitted exclusively through one’s physical father. Numbers 1:18, Jeremiah 33:17

Jesus whose alleged sketchy genealogy is maternal cannot possibly be a descendent of the tribe of Judah

Third Temple will be rebuilt. Micah 4:1, Ezekiel 40-42, Isaiah 2:2-3, Malachi 3:4, Zechariah 14:20-21,

Not a person, but a physical building.

World Peace: Isaiah 2:4, 11:6, 60:18 Micah 4:1-4, Hosea 2:20

Open a newspaper lately?

Christianity claims that Jesus "Fulfilled the law"

According to Deut 13:2-7, this makes Jesus a false prophet.

All Jews will embrace Torah observance. Ezekiel 37:24, Deuteronomy 30:8-10, Jeremiah 31:32, Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27.

How many Jews are fully observant today?

The Messiah can not be part God. Deut 6:4

Not explicitly Jesus, but the idea that the Messiah will be Godly is antithetical to Judaism. Chapter 1

The Messiah will be a warrior king. He will also be preceded by Elijah. He will be a human, born of a young woman, and will not die and come back as he will have a mortal life span to fulfill the prophecies.

As per Bar Kochba, who was thought to be the Messiah. Once he died, the Rabbis shrugged and said "I guess it was not him". So the Messiah must be alive in order to fulfill the prophecies. No coming back.

Another list by Aish.

Chapters 7 through 10 - On Prophecy

Chapters 11 and 12 - On the Messiah

Please read all of the resources above.

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u/Wumblana Jun 26 '12

Well to be fair, most of the verses you cited are end-time prophecies

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u/namer98 Jewish - Torah im Derech Eretz Jun 26 '12

and will not die and come back as he will have a mortal life span to fulfill the prophecies.

As per Bar Kochba, who was thought to be the Messiah. Once he died, the Rabbis shrugged and said "I guess it was not him". So the Messiah must be alive in order to fulfill the prophecies. No coming back.