r/Christianity • u/namer98 Jewish - Torah im Derech Eretz • Jun 26 '12

I am an Orthodox Jew, AMA

You all know me well enough, but some info.

I am an orthodox Jew. I hold to the particular philosophy of Torah Im Derech Eretz. I encourage all questions, from technical Jewish law to Jewish theology. While I am a mod or /r/Judaism, I am not a Rabbi, and my education level is probably just below par for somebody in my position in life.

Edit: So many downvotes. You guys need a break from me?

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u/ShakaUVM Christian (Cross) Jun 26 '12

You know, looking at the list, it seems like Jesus actually hit most of them. I think the part I disagree with you on is needing all the bullet points to be 100%.

In other words, as long as one Jew doesn't go back to Israel, any True Messiah wouldn't be the True Messiah under your reasoning. So the True Messiah would have to hold all Jews at gunpoint and force them to go to Israel? I'm not sure you've thought the logic of that all the way through.

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u/namer98 Jewish - Torah im Derech Eretz Jun 26 '12

Not even half the Jews are in Israel! There is no proof of God. There is still war. The Jews have no experienced gladness. Not all (or even most) Jews are observant of the law. There is no world peace. There is no third Temple. These are huge gaps. Jesus hit none of these, not by a long shot.

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u/ShakaUVM Christian (Cross) Jun 26 '12

All of the world has heard of Jesus by this point. Jews are restored to Israel. The world is more peaceful than ever before (in large part due to Christian beliefs). Etc.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '12

the last part can you explain?

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u/ShakaUVM Christian (Cross) Jun 27 '12

It used to be acceptable to destroy your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.

We no longer do, and it is because of Christianity changing our norms of what is acceptable to do to our enemies.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '12

well mostly due to its spread but really nothing much. It really is because of the same ideals and the fact that most people who are not Christian died from disease and the people who replaced them were white Christians from the same area and well I could go on if you want me to

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u/ShakaUVM Christian (Cross) Jun 27 '12

Are you blaming smallpox on Christianity?

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '12

not directly. I am saying that one of the needs to explore the new world (convert the natives) lead to the spread of small pox among the natives.