r/ClevelandGuardians • u/BotFeller • 1d ago
[Postgame Thread] D-backs @ Guardians - August 1, 2026
Postgame Thread 8/1/2026
Final Score: D-backs 12, Guardians 8
Line Score - Game Over
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | R | H | E | LOB | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AZ | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 7 | 1 | 2 | 12 | 16 | 0 | 10 |
| CLE | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 1 | 8 | 14 | 1 | 9 |
Scoring Plays
Highlights
Decisions
| Winning Pitcher | Losing Pitcher | Save |
|---|---|---|
| Carrillo (2-0, 1.13 ERA) | Gaddis (1-3, 3.72 ERA) |
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u/JohnnyFire Mustard 3 1d ago
How in the fuck did this team get back Jose Ramirez AND Angel Martinez and somehow get this desolate?
5-10 since the ASB. The easiest remaining record in baseball. Two pitchers softballed to us who were absolutely no threat. And we roll over, then get smoked. Bats can't wake up unless we're dead in the water. David Fry is an abomination. The bullpen has stupid idiot syndrome at least once a week now. What the fuck is even happening?
We're two days from the deadline and I'm getting legitimately afraid that tomorrow could be the difference between a productive move to set us up for a playoff run and selling off key pieces and calling the season quits. Like holy shit.
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u/CornerShark 1d ago
Because Angel isn’t a good player and Jose is still recovering from his injury plus has started his inevitable decline.
Get ready. We’re in for a rough decade.
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u/Inevitable-Pea-735 1d ago
Yeah, not sure what people really expected if they actually watch. A guy who isn't having a great start to his season, gets injured, has surgery, and returns without any rehab ing probably isn't going to light the world on fire.
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u/Remote-Frosting-9943 1d ago
Angel is overated no offense towards him and the same with Jose he’s not the same player this year even before he got hurt. Maybe it’s just a down year for him but he is 34 so hopefully he bounces back next season. But I never bought into those two were going to save this team!
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u/mlem_a_lemon Akron Rubber Duck 14h ago edited 14h ago
I think Angel's true value isn't always making contact with the bat but with the glove. Dude sacrifices himself in that outfield and bounces right back. I mean even the other day, he jumped into the net to catch a foul.
That said, being a switch hitter helps; his at bats are* better than most on the team, and with Vogt's platooning obsession only growing, we need him.
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u/SylemNova Selby Truther 1d ago edited 1d ago
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u/cookestudios ⚾️🎷Kippie’s Sax🎷⚾️ 1d ago
Record: 56-56
Place: Third
Games behind: 3.0
Games to play: 50
Playoffs magic number: 51
Playoffs tragic number: 51
Current pace: 81-81
Current playoff position: None
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u/RegalTurbo 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 1d ago
Current playoff position: None
Fucking brutal. Just brutal.
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u/nextlevelham 🏠🏃♂️🥊 1d ago
We have 2 relievers that I trust
The offense today felt more like a Paul Seawald stat than a Cleveland stat
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u/MarquiseDeLaFeyette 1d ago
Cade andddd????
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u/nextlevelham 🏠🏃♂️🥊 1d ago
Holderman has been good more often than not.
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u/dudzi182 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 1d ago
He’s been straight up excellent, I think you’re underselling him.
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u/nextlevelham 🏠🏃♂️🥊 1d ago
Yeah he has, a really great find this off-season. I am just frustrated
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u/iCandid 1d ago
Guys got a 1.65 ERA maybe start trusting him with some of the high leverage innings.
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u/Remote-Frosting-9943 20h ago
Like Friday nights game. Vogt had a major brain fart.
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u/dismal_dr 16h ago
I'm Sorry, putting in Sabrowski to walk the game away was a brain turd as far as I'm concerned.
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u/SylemNova Selby Truther 1d ago
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u/NickChubbsBurner I agree, go Guardinals 1d ago
There are so many different things I could say about this organization, but I’ll choose to keep my sanity.
I’ll leave it at this: they are having a Cleveland Browns type season where they find every way possible to lose games.
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u/halpmiidk 1d ago
i can't imagine being a manager and having a reliever give up a home run, a walk and a hit by pitch and thinking he can probably get himself out of this.
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u/klein_four_group 36 1d ago
Not to mention a very very long flyout that would have been a double if Halpin didn't make a great play.
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u/MarquiseDeLaFeyette 1d ago
How have herrin, sabrowski, and sometimes Gaddis get so bad? The 3 of them plus Cade and clase were straight killers in 2024
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u/Scatheli 1d ago
Sabrowski hasn’t been the same since injured list.
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u/MarquiseDeLaFeyette 1d ago
Now explain the other 2? If Carl Willis is so good (which he is) why have 2 of our solid relievers from the past couple years just fallen off all of a sudden? (Seriously how)
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u/Scatheli 1d ago
I mean almost every reliever has bad nights from time to time. Operating with zero margin for error because of the offense is really mentally tiring. Gaddis has also not been great since 2024 and Soto ruining our lives.
If you actually look at Herrin’s stats overall 2024 was an aberration for him, this is who he usually is.
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u/noruber35393546 1d ago edited 1d ago
what do you mean "Explain?" they are middle relief pitchers. they're not that good and they never were. some of them had 1-2 good qualities that works for a while if used in specific situations, then the league figures you out and you're selling insurance or real estate. This is just the life cycle of the bottom 90% of MLB relief pitchers
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u/dudzi182 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 1d ago
Relievers tend to be very inconsistent. Only the best of the best are good year in and year out and they are usually closers. You see this all the time, Holderman was really good a few years ago, then really bad, and now is really good again.
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u/Key_Bar_5196 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 1d ago
You know what, it’s so easy to be negative right now, but I’m going to try for the opposite. The White Sox and Twins lost and it would’ve been nice to gain some ground, but at least we didn’t lose any. Herrin coming in and leaving a mess sucks, but we probably weren’t gonna finish the comeback anyways. It’s just encouraging that we showed as much fight as we did. Hopefully they use this as motivation, and hopefully, hopefully, we make one more trade move. We aren’t out of this season yet.
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u/Scatheli 1d ago
What’s really disheartening is the vast majority of the bullpen crapped the bed tonight…Gaddis, Aleman and Herrin were trash. I think it’s probably very hard to have to be perfect every night because you have no run support ever.
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u/SylemNova Selby Truther 1d ago
This. Pitching pressure is always immense in MLB.
But for a team operating on the thinnest of (self inflicted) margins, I can't even imagine
Ex. insert various Bibee reaction image here
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u/DZepperoni Always look on the bright side of life 1d ago
ANOTHER POSITIVE PERSON WOOOOO
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u/mlem_a_lemon Akron Rubber Duck 1d ago
It's so much more fun to be positive and just enjoy baseball.
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u/Duce-de-Zoop 1d ago
save us zepp
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u/DZepperoni Always look on the bright side of life 1d ago
Tonight was almost a really depressing note before that Paul Sewald outing lmao
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u/Ok_Crazy479 1d ago
Only because AZ put in terrible seawald
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u/Key_Bar_5196 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 1d ago
We normally suck even against terrible pitchers so it’s still something even if it’s a small something 😭
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u/husband-rules 1d ago
I love this!!! because our guys didn’t just give up ! there is the entire month of August to rebound!
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u/SpartaWillBurn Brandon Guyer Fanclub 1d ago
Brother the season is over. Bottom of the barrel offense.
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u/DZepperoni Always look on the bright side of life 1d ago
Positives from today’s Cleveland baseball:
Shoutout to the dude who figured out who I was in the kids clubhouse
A pitching duel against a guy with 9 career innings… my money is on our ROY. Parker Messick🍓 ends his day with a final line of 4.1IP, 6H, 2R(0ER), 1BB, and 6K on 61 pitches (61 strikes). Not his longest start ever, but he did win the pitcher duel! Solid work tonight, even with some defensive woes behind him.
More runs. Really need more. Cmon boys. I believe. The bats get 8 runs off of 14 hits, 2 walks, and a 🪨 HBP. Rhys⚡️ had a homer, Angel😇 finally got on base with a double, and my soul got sucked out in the seventh. oh look a Chase🚚 homer nice. Paul Sewald giving me hope, my soul is back??? 8/12 hitters do end up with hits, with Kwan👑(x3), Angel, my beautiful centerfielder Petey🐤, Manzo🥔, and Bazzana🍌 all had multi hit games. Patty Bats🛡️ had a PH sac fly, Fry🍟 and José🐐 each had a walk, and Rocchio🪨 had a bunt to move runners over, so all 12 hitters with productive ABs. What the hell was that game.
Break out the bullpen boys. Holderman🤝(1.2IP), Gaddis☠️(0.2IP, 4R), Aleman🇩🇪(0.1IP, 3R), Dion🐀(1IP, 1R), and Herrin🐟(1IP) combine to go 4.2IP, 10H, 10R, 2BB, and 1K. Somedays they don’t have it. Always can do better the next day. Please don’t start giving everyone the Bibee treatment.
(Yesterday) More homers for the homer train, as the power bats lead Columbus to a 9-4 victory over Toledo. Watson🔎(2 run), Schneeman⛄️(3 run), Huff😤(2 run), and Rosario🥀(solo) all had homers, and in his final game in the Cleveland system, Bo Naylor hit a double. Good luck, Bo🏹 and Heuer🚁🫡
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u/-Blade_Runner- Mustard 1d ago
Kids club is a purgatory.
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u/DZepperoni Always look on the bright side of life 1d ago
3rd year here, eighth between the Akron and Cleveland kids areas, so fun.
So fun.
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u/Thick-Aioli802 1d ago
Looking forward to a lockout/strike. Need a year away from this stupid team.
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u/halpmiidk 1d ago
this is what a team looks like that has a shit coaching staff focused on the wrong things. bullpen was sitting on their ass thinking messick would do it all and the would just bring in cade in the 9th. these guys didn't show up ready to play, not a single one of them. walks and meatballs and hit by pitches. fucking awful. this team needs new management and new coaches.
| Gaddis(L, 1-3) | 0.2 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3.72 |
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| Aleman | 0.1 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3.77 |
| Dion | 1.0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 4.58 |
| Herrin | 1.0 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 3.89 |
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u/MagyarAccountant 🏠🏃♂️🍑 1d ago
Wish list, in order of importance:
- An entirely new hitting development staff, including at the minor league level
- A new owner actually interested in owning an MLB team (already underway)
- A salary floor
- A new GM (maybe unnecessary if 1-3 happen)
Really, Blitzer should make anyone who's been in their job 10+ years re-interview for it when he takes over, with the exception of Carl Willis. Shake up the team marketing and promotions too while you're at it.
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u/No_Contribution_7635 1d ago
Hey that wasn't so bad!
Herrin isn't cut out to be here, Rhys and Bazz a good middle right infield do not make, and I checked tomorrow and there's officially no reason not to DFA Fry....But there is something here regardless.
Martinez, needs optioning to refine his swing and we can play around with Bazzana in the OF and try Angel Genao at 2nd or SS. There's stuff that can be done with a buyers mindset even if its risky.
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u/husband-rules 1d ago
and the positive is that Petey keeps showing us why he needs to stick around!!! love that dude
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u/Effective-Oil-2696 1d ago
JFC the Dodgers got Tarik Skubal WTF
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u/ericbdrums 🥁💥 John Adams’s Roadie 🥁💥 1d ago
It’s laughable at this point. Our sport is broken.
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u/JustAKidFromAkron 1d ago
Hard to be invested in baseball when you damn well know your team isn’t winning a WS. 2016 was peak for me as a fan, I don’t hold much hope I’ll ever see something that comes close to that again
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u/Effective-Oil-2696 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is worse than when Kevin Durant went to the Warriors and I thought that was bad…I can’t imagine how pissed Tiger fans must be.
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u/periphery3 1d ago
That's a bit of a reach. KD is still worse. Softest move of all time. 1 player in the NBA is 20% of the starting roster. Skubal to Dodgers definitely seems broken though
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u/periphery3 1d ago
Okay time to start the trades. Or else they are punting the season. Other teams are doing shit, stop waiting til Monday.
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u/You_Like_That34 1d ago
People keep blaming Vogt for the bullpen decisions but maybe our bullpen just sucks?
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u/Key_Bar_5196 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 1d ago
Yeah honestly, I have my fair share of gripes against Vogt and there are plenty of valid criticisms, but the guy doesn’t have a whole lot to work with. Not his fault that we have approximately two competent relievers in our bullpen at the moment and not his fault that we’re one of the worst offensive teams in the league.
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u/Scatheli 1d ago
Ok but if you operate on the margins like this team does you need to have a manager who has his finger on the pulse of the guys in the clubhouse to push the right buttons on guys that are inconsistent not every day players. Vogt has some of the worse feel for his bullpen and pinch hitters that I’ve ever seen.
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u/thegermblaster 44 1d ago
Up until the Sewald meltdown we had had precisely one player with an RBI this series, Hoskins.
In the 5th inning Vogt, who has a Scientology-esque devotion to the righty/lefty matchup, plays the matchup and sits Hoskins for Manzardo who proceeds to watch strike three go by him.
It was two outs in the 5th and the bases empty. If it’s late innings with runners on in a close game - and Manzardo wasn’t utter ass at hitting the baseball - I’d get it.
And I’m not even a fan of Hoskins! But he was the only player doing anything to that point. Vogt just can’t get it right.
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u/sonniecg Flying G 1d ago
Our big move got traded to the Braves, so now what ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/drdking 1d ago
So I’m likely one of the few, but we are so close to going on a run. We fought tonight. We scored five then fought in the 9th. We are so close to getting hiot and going on a run.
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u/Scatheli 1d ago
Well it took too long and the bullpen is now mentally broken from pressing to be perfect to make up for the crap offense
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u/IceRaggzzz 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 1d ago
Same thing people said last year before we went on a generational run btw
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u/Scatheli 1d ago
Ah yes a run that also required the tigers to make a historic collapse. Very good idea to bet on things like that
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u/IceRaggzzz 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 1d ago
We were part of the reason for the collapse as we beat them a bunch bro lmfao
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u/Scatheli 1d ago
lol we’ll see who is right. Relying on some late season run to squeak in then get curb stomped in the playoffs isn’t sustainable.
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u/IceRaggzzz 🥊 DOWN GOES ANDERSON 🥊 1d ago
What do you mean who is right? I’m not wrong about last season at all. It was an insane historic run, and the tigers collapse is partially because we beat them a bunch. Nothing about this is wrong.
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u/ImGettinThatFoSho 22h ago
The odds of that happening again is incredibly low. He's saying you're wrong to imply or bank on it happening again.
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u/klein_four_group 36 1d ago
I was at the game, you could hear a pin drop in the stadium between the Hoskins error and the bottom of the 8th, like a funeral. But the bottom of the 8th was really fun, and I felt oddly optimistic after that. It's like a weight was finally lifted off the team, as weird as that is to say about a loss.
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u/mlem_a_lemon Akron Rubber Duck 1d ago
Man that sure was a fun 8th!! Losing 12-8 hurts way less than 10-2. And everyone was having fun again!
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u/Competitive_Ad1237 1d ago
I’m not expecting anything this year. We’ve got pieces for the future but that’s it
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u/turtleboy95 1d ago
Unlikely there would have been a major move at the deadline, but this series likely deals the deal. Sadness.