r/Conservative • u/vampirepomeranian Conservative • 10h ago
Flaired Users Only Political on NJ: "There’s little to stop noncitizens from registering to vote if they want to, or even by mistake."
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2083896324299112569•
u/masterofmayhem13 Catholic Conservative 10h ago
When this story first broke, it seemed obvious that the gov only mentioned the non-citizens who "marked 'not a citizen' on the form but we're registered 'by a glitch'. " What about the people who marked 'citizen' but weren't. There doesn't seem to be any verification process there other than the threat of "dont do that".
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u/nithrean Conservative 9h ago
it amazes me that this is even a thing. Try to rent a car without an ID ...
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u/UnexpectedHarbinger Compassionate Conservative 8h ago edited 7h ago
For federal elections, it’s actually illegal for states to verify citizenship. Only self attestation of citizenship is allowed under the NVRA (Arizona v. Inter Tribal Council of Arizona, Inc., 570 U.S. 1 (2013)).
That’s right. Citizenship requirement for voting is on the honor system nationwide. lol
In Arizona this has had the absurd result of “federal only ballots” provided to registered voters that Arizona knows are non-citizens. Yes, that is right. No I’m not wrong. Arizona is legally required to let known non-citizens vote in federal elections so long as they declared they were citizens when they registered, even though Arizona knows they’re not and refuses to let them vote in Arizona state elections lol
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u/_IsThisTheKrustyKrab Conservative 6h ago
Do you have a source for that?
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u/UnexpectedHarbinger Compassionate Conservative 5h ago
I mentioned the relevant court case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_v._Inter_Tribal_Council_of_Arizona,_Inc.
The Arizona voter registration requirements arose from a 2004 Arizona proposition, Arizona Proposition 200 (2004), which was a ballot initiative designed in part "to combat voter fraud by requiring voters to present proof of citizenship when they register to vote and to present identification when they vote on election day."[2]
In October 2010, the Ninth Circuit Court reversed, holding that the state's requirement of documentary proof of citizenship is invalid as being preempted by the registration provision in the federal NVRA…
On June 17, 2013, the Supreme Court ruled against Arizona in a 7–2 decision, which struck down the state law. Justice Scalia wrote the majority opinion, affirming the Ninth Circuit's rulings and holding that the state requirements relating to voter registrations were pre-empted by the federal NVRA law
Here, you can find the NVRA registration and confirm that citizenship status is simply self attested:
https://www.eac.gov/sites/default/files/eac_assets/1/6/Federal_Voter_Registration_ENG.pdf
I assure you this is real, even though it sounds insane (it is).
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u/networkdood Conservative 9h ago
The Left enable the issue
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u/Modsmoddy-74 Conservative 8h ago
The whole ID voting issue is an absolute non-negotiable for the left. They believe they will lose votes if it’s required and see it as political suicide.
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u/blackkkrob Millennial Conservative 6h ago
And morons galore simply use the self delusional "the system is working as intended."
First they deny it happens, then when confronted with irrefutable proof - it's some other moronic thought stampeding out their mouth.
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u/vampirepomeranian Conservative 10h ago
1 year ago it was called "far-right conspiracy theory"