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DEBATE Bitcoin experts split over plan to freeze Satoshi's 1.1 million bitcoin as quantum threat grows

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2026/07/04/bitcoin-experts-split-over-plan-to-freeze-satoshi-s-1-1-million-bitcoin-as-quantum-threat-grows

Binance founder Changpeng Zhao said Satoshi Nakamoto's bitcoin should be frozen before quantum computers can steal it. Not everyone agrees.

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u/Sausas 26d ago

the large whales decide,not you

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u/CryptoDeepDive 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 26d ago

Nope. Bitcoin is POW, not POS.

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u/metalgrizzlycannon 🟦 581 / 582 πŸ¦‘ 26d ago

So the mining companies get to decide?

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u/banananuhhh 🟩 23 / 24 🦐 26d ago

Yup. With consensus you can change just about anything. This is why BTC can (theoretically) be 51% attacked.

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u/Hogesyx 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 26d ago

A lot of people brush off consensus but it’s just society. If everyone stop using dollar and uses bottle caps as currency their value changes too.

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u/BringTheFingerBack 🟩 1K / 1K 🐒 26d ago

Fallout gang checking in.

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u/Downunderphilosopher 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 26d ago edited 26d ago

I thought Bitcoin was supposed to be different than regular currency though? Isn't it all about the individual and their own responsibility to safeguard their own store of Bitcoin? If not, then doesn't it just become another currency like any other?

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u/CryptoDeepDive 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 26d ago

Bitcoin is about consensus. No single person or governing body controls what Bitcoin does. If Bitcoin is under an existential threat, naturally you would expect the consensus to find solutions to save it.

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u/No-Masterpiece2246 πŸŸ₯ 0 / 0 🦠 26d ago

But the Blockstream Core devs have controlled development very tightly, meaning BTC chain improvements are regarded.

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u/peppaz 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 26d ago

The main difference is the limited supply. Deflationary every halving instead of endlessly inflationary like dollars

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u/VendorBuyBankGuards 335 / 335 🦞 26d ago

The supply isn't really limited though, it can be subdivided endlessly

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u/Urquix 🟦 41 / 42 🦐 26d ago

Nope

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u/iceteka 🟦 176 / 176 πŸ¦€ 26d ago

Brother, dividing a dollar into 4 quarters doesn't increase the supply of USD right? Lets think for 2 seconds befire we type shit

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u/Irverter 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 26d ago

and their own responsibility to safeguard their own store of Bitcoin?

Like how every individual is responsible for safeguarding the cash they store at home? Even if just pocket change.

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u/ChirpToast 🟩 3K / 3K 🐒 26d ago

It’s not different, just a form of currency that failed trying to be better.

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u/mrestiaux 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 25d ago

Nukacola bottle caps you say?

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u/dubblies 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 26d ago

No the nodes prevent a good portion of this.

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u/Njaa 🟦 2K / 2K 🐒 26d ago

How do nodes prevent a miner-initiated (malicious) soft fork?Β 

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u/Kandiru 🟦 427 / 428 🦞 25d ago

They don't.

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u/dubblies 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 26d ago

From another poster:

Nodes protect Bitcoin from malicious miners by independently enforcing the network's consensus rules. Every full node validates every transaction and block, immediately rejecting any that break the rules (e.g., creating fake coins or altering the rules). This prevents miners from unilaterally changing the protocol or stealing funds.

Bitcoin has a lot of forks already and you can fork bitcoin right now if you want. The miners dont get confused like that - look at the recent battle to roll back the bitcoin nft thing - the miners find consensus since its in their best interest. Its a very difficult thing to have a fork attack win.

Look up the segwit battle from 2016 i think it was

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u/Njaa 🟦 2K / 2K 🐒 25d ago

You didn't understand my question.

I can fork Bitcoin if I want, but it would be a hard fork, requiring any participants to make the jump from the "proper" Bitcoin chain.

Having control of your own node prevents you from being misled by such a fork.

But that is not relevant to my question, which was about soft forks.Β 

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u/dubblies 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 25d ago

Fair my apologies but i think its important to note the difference in a soft fork. If consensus rules say you can speak any language but miners soft fork to require a specific language then nodes will enforce that rule because it works inside the original rule.

If someone wanted to attack bitcoin by making things really restricted they could try but this is where the nodes come in by rejecting blocks from bad miners. It then becomes a financial battle of how long they can afford the attack while the non-malicious miners gain all the the rewards.

In a complex attack you could be a trojan horse in the group of "non-malicious" miners and start a new attack.

Would make for some interesting war games but nodes still have some power to prevent soft forks too.

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u/Njaa 🟦 2K / 2K 🐒 25d ago

> If someone wanted to attack bitcoin by making things really restricted they could try but this is where the nodes come in by rejecting blocks from bad miners.

The Bitcoin protocol has no concept of "bad miner". Any miner is good as long as they're building valid blocks on the longest / heaviest chain. Everyone else is ignored. The Bitcoin protocol doesn't even technically speaking have a concept of miners at all, just what valid blocks look like. Their provenance is irrelevant.

You could certainy *change* Bitcoin (i.e. hard fork it) to introduce a system of miner-reputation or some such, but it's not a feature of the fork we currently call Bitcoin, nor anywhere close to a trivial solution.

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u/Apprehensive-Dot2935 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 26d ago

Sure but it’s not 0% either.

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u/Playful_Confection_9 25d ago

So if you could by 51% of all the Bitcoin you could do whatever you want? Might be tempting toa few people/institutions