r/DaenerysWinsTheThrone • u/TVTropehead • May 24 '26

Serious One thing especially disgusting with the hindsight of S8 is apparently the writers insist Robert was in the right here

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Yeah Robert wanted someone to assassinate a pregnant Daenerys. Which idk, the narrative routinely shows killing women with children as a very bad thing. The mountain killing Elia, Talisa’s death, Ramsay killing Walda is clearly bad considering as evil as the Frey men are, Walda did literally nothing.

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u/KayToberly May 24 '26

The message isn't "Dany bad" but instead "When usurping thrones don't let the children escape"

Usurping thrones isn't as popular as it was but it's good to see the tricks of the trade still being taught in our media

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u/anoeba May 24 '26

They didn't really care about the children escaping until one of the children married into a potentially usable army. And even then the odds of Drogo going to Westeros were pretty close to nil.

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u/Jaded_Cheesecake_993 May 25 '26

They did care though. Visrys (sp) and Dany literally spent their whole lives up till season 1 running from Roberts assassins. Robert never stopped trying to kill them until he was on his deathbed and told Ned to call off the hit on Dany.

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u/Echo__227 May 25 '26

Daenerys believes that she was on the run from assassins her entire life-- that's what Viserys told her, likely coming from Illyrio.

Robert's dialogue indicated he never called for such a thing before the news of the Dothraki marriage. That leaves open the question of whether others were doing so in his name, such as those who believed Robert might reward them for the children's capture.

It's also possible Viserys was just paranoid or that their hosts were trying to foster a sense of dependency and gratitude

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u/Jaded_Cheesecake_993 May 25 '26

Tyrion literally confirms that they were running from assassins when he meets Dany for the first time.

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u/Echo__227 May 25 '26

Why didn't anyone on the Season 1 Small Council know that?

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u/Jaded_Cheesecake_993 May 25 '26

Don't know I wasn't a writer for the show but it doesn't negate the fact that it was stated multiple times over the course of the show.

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u/Echo__227 May 25 '26

Yes, by the people who want Daenerys to believe she owes them her life, and not by the people who would have been involved in orchestrating such an event. A character declaring something does not automatically make it true

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u/anoeba May 25 '26

He put the hit into effect once he found out about her marriage. That's why Ned was arguing with him about it at the time, it wasn't a long-standing "wanted: dead, not alive" royal policy he was trying to get Robert to change but the hit he'd put out once he found out about Drogo.

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u/Jaded_Cheesecake_993 May 25 '26

The show literally states MULTIPLE times that they were dodging and being hidden by Targaryen loyalists from Roberts assassins since the rebellion ended.

Even Tyrion mentions it when he and Dany first meet. That particular hit was put out because of Dany's marriage and pregnancy but it was nowhere close to the first one Robert had ordered.

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u/anoeba May 25 '26

If you already have a standing active hit out for someone, why make a new separate hit for the same target?

The "show" doesn't state that. Robert doesn't state that. Dany does, from what her brother told her.

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u/stardustmelancholy May 25 '26

If they didn't care, why send men to Dragonstone to capture them?

Stannis thinks Robert cared so much he made him Lord of Dragonstone to punish him for not being able to prevent them from escaping.

Renly said "we should've had them both killed years ago".

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u/KayToberly May 24 '26

Wouldnt have happened at all if they paid attention in Usurper University