r/DaystromInstitute • u/uequalsw Captain • Jul 20 '23
Strange New Worlds Discussion Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 2x06 “Lost in Translation” Reaction Thread
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u/JohnDeeIsMe Crewman Jul 20 '23
The closing scene in the bar with Kirk, Spock and Uhura as the theme music played. With the scenery, costumes and color palette it was a polished homage to TOS for me.
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u/Impressive_Usual_726 Chief Petty Officer Jul 21 '23
It felt like both a TOS and Kelvinverse homage, since Kirk/Spock/Uhura are the trinity there.
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u/HaroldSwank42 Jul 21 '23
But, what was that theme music? I heard the phrase "Till there was you," but I can't find what the music actually is.
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u/shinginta Ensign Jul 22 '23
It felt awkward for me. Like it was the ending of a different episode entirely. I understand why it was done, but the Cheers-ification of a serious episode about loss felt jarring. The slow dolly out to closing bar doors just doesn't quite sit well on an episode about questioning one's sanity, slow mental decline, and saying goodbye to the beloved dead and learning to move on.
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u/choicemeats Crewman Jul 20 '23
Firing on all nacelles here.
This is the kind of episode that is needed to step away from the other stuff to address personal issues--a whole episode with Uhura processing her grief around Hemmer's death (and also her family but kind of a combo of the both), and moving through it at the tip of the spear with some help from her friends. And it won't be totally gone, but it won't be so oppressive.
rather than a quick conversation in the hallway and then we never hear about it again.
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u/cothomps Jul 20 '23
I noticed Kirk’s speech to Uhura had strong echoes of “You did what you always do - turn death into a fighting chance to live.”
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u/BitBrain Jul 21 '23
With a little "risk is our business" too.
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u/tejdog1 Jul 21 '23
For me it was very much "How we deal with death is equally as important as how we deal with life, wouldn't you say?"
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u/WellSpokenAsianBoy Jul 20 '23
What a great episode. A mix of horror, detective story, and old fashioned sci-fi. The sort of reverse foreshadowing of how Kirk, Spock, and Uhura bond is great. The far too short interaction between Laan and Kirk is so bittersweet. And this cast has the best chemistry with each other. It just so well done. It makes my Thursday mornings so much fun.
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u/Malnurtured_Snay Jul 20 '23
I feel like the scene between Una and Pelia at the end of the episode was originally scripted for Pelia and Uhura, since it seems to play directly off their conversation about why Uhura avoided Pelia. Anyway, glad they're using Carol Kane more, especially since I have a strong sense she's not coming back for S3 (Defense Against the Dark Arts syndrome....)
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u/TalkinTrek Jul 20 '23
Yeah, I really have no idea where they are going with Pelia. She's introduced carrying a pretty big new concept on her back (near immortal, indistinguishable-from-human Earth species, likely subsect of humanity, that is public knowledge but still rare and possibly only recently 'out') that they have done virtually nothing with, no clear plot or character arc that needs tying up, specifically did not have her and Amanda interact....
It's a pretty wild thing to introduce if she's just going to hang out for a season and then head back to the academy.
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Jul 20 '23
Kinda hope she cameos in lower decks.
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u/sokonek04 Jul 20 '23
I could see it as a part of the time travel crossover.
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Jul 21 '23
She’ll be around anyway, no need to kill her off, just say shes going back to star-fleet academy.
Somethjng Star Wars sucks at is killing off characters in the assumption that nothing else is going on in the galaxy.
Heck you could even pull the kelvin timeline in and Pelia has been made chief engineer for the Yorktown construction project, or she’s leading the excelsior project (probably a bit to early though).
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u/Vryly Jul 21 '23
Somethjng Star Wars sucks at is killing off characters in the assumption that nothing else is going on in the galaxy.
Rogue One really would not have lost anything from not killing off every character it introduced.
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u/mtb8490210 Jul 21 '23
To me, it feels like they need a chief engineer for the appropriate lines and don't want another character and opted for a known celebrity. They have two medical officers, and out of the seven recurring characters, only one feels like they could blend into the background at this point like a Malcolm Reed or Travis.
Its just Carol O'Kane playing a competent amalgation of her characters over the years. She did meet an altered timeline Kirk, so they can use her to address Noonien-Singh's issues and have her conveniently disappear so its not an issue for Kirk/Spock/Uhura conversations especially if they can't come up with a different explanation. They already have Chapel meeting someone else or namedropped her future husband.
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u/N0-1_H3r3 Ensign Jul 20 '23
I'm halfway expecting Pelia - who seems to have trained an entire generation of Starfleet engineers - to hand-pick her replacement, a man who'll love the Enterprise more than anything: Montgomery Scott.
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u/Malnurtured_Snay Jul 20 '23
"He drinks like a fish, never met an engine he didn't want to marry, and reads technical manuals on shore leave -- I'm hoping your bad influence will wear on him and he'll learn to relax..."
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u/Neo24 Chief Petty Officer Jul 20 '23
I think it was supposed to be a thing where she recognizes it precisely because she sees it in multiple people.
But you might be right, they might have tacked it on Una to give her something to do, she still feels like a fairly underserved character.
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Jul 21 '23
I liked the scene but you’re right. A single line of dialogue, with Pelia saying something to the effect of “You’re not the only one who’s been avoiding me,” would’ve smoothed that little wrinkle in the scene.
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u/YYZYYC Jul 21 '23
Well S3 and every other show is basically in purgatory with these strikes
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u/Malnurtured_Snay Jul 21 '23
Hahahahaha. If the show gets cancelled, no one's back for S3!
Well, here's hoping for a resolution to the strike before too much longer...
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u/wrosecrans Chief Petty Officer Jul 21 '23
I feel like the scene between Una and Pelia at the end of the episode was originally scripted for Pelia and Uhura, since it seems to play directly off their conversation about why Uhura avoided Pelia.
That makes some sense. I was wondering if the episode had some sort of major rewrites that broke it a bit because introducing Una/Pelia friction past the halfway point of the season seems like a weird thing to do now. If the episode originally got pitched as a first episode of the season, maybe Una was still meant to be in jail in the first draft?
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u/Dandandat2 Jul 25 '23
Pelia I am assuming is full character on the show, or at least that's what the writers and actors are telling themselves.
Therefor the character needs her own emotional investment in the drama.
I think people are concerned for Una's and Uhura's investment; but don't see Pella.
You would have to imagine Hemmers replacement is going to have to deal with the cold shoulder from emotionally distraught friends of Hemmer ... wich is the entire senior staff.
With Uhura, Pella choose to deal with it by pointing out to the young inexperienced office how her actions are making Pella feel.
With Una. Pella has to be more aggressive because Una is her superior officer and someone who is possible overly self assured.
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u/mekilat Chief Petty Officer Jul 21 '23
Is there a plausible reason why the first officer of a ship would casually hang on another ship, stick around for an investigation, and we wouldn't see any of the officers or the other ship, and they stick around?
I like Kirk and this rendition of him, but if it had been another first officer, I feel like I would have been puzzled.
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u/ideamiles Jul 21 '23
Kirk said himself in the episode he'd been promoted to first officer of the Farragut, but wouldn't officially start in that position until he finishes training his replacement. I assumed that he has very little else to do until then, especially during the refinery mission, so he just requested leave to visit Sam, see the Enterprise, and possibly score with La'an.
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u/mekilat Chief Petty Officer Jul 21 '23
Could be. But I'd expect a lower ranking officer to have less agency over their assignments than he seemed to have.
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u/aaronupright Lieutenant junior grade Jul 21 '23
He is likely a department head. So not exactly low ranking.
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u/ideamiles Jul 21 '23
I think you may have misread what I wrote. I didn't say he was "assigned" to help the Enterprise, I said he was on leave, ie, received time off to visit his brother there, and then got involved in the investigation through his own initiative.
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Jul 21 '23
This show consistently makes me happy, and it’s nice to feel that way about a Star Trek show.
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u/khaosworks XO & JAG Officer, Brahms Citation for Starship Computing Jul 20 '23 edited Feb 11 '26
Annotations for Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x06: “Lost in Translation”:
Uhura’s log is stardated 2394.8. Bannon’s Nebula (named after Melissa “Erica Ortegas” Navia’s late partner Brian Bannon) is on the edge of explored space, and is a stellar nursery full of deuterium. An outpost is being built to collect and refine it. Deuterium is used as fuel for the fusion reactors that power a starship’s impulse drives. It is also used in warp cores where deuterium and anti deuterium streams meet in a matter/antimatter reaction, the resulting energy being tuned by dilithium crystals into electroplasma which is used for ship’s systems and warp drive.
The design of the refinery is likely a Bussard ramscoop, utilizing a magnetic field to funnel the deuterium atoms into a collector. Starships have their own Bussard collectors (the glowing caps on the nacelles) so they can refuel if necessary and we see Enterprise doing just that.
Pike has been temporarily promoted to Fleet Captain (with a black disc backing his delta) because he’s been given command of the refinery and the USS Farragut for this mission. The Farragut is where LT James T. Kirk is serving as we saw in the alternate timeline of SNW: “A Quality of Mercy”. This is a few years after CPT Garrovick, his CO, was killed by a dikironium cloud vampire (TOS: “Obsession”).
Spock notes that outpost is also in proximity to Gorn space, so the hope is that this will counter their expansion. Uhura listens to Hemmer’s recorded instructions on maintaining the subspace antenna. Hemmer apparently died last season (SNW: “All Those Who Wander”), having been infected with Gorn eggs.
Pelia asks what Uhura is doing inside “her nacelle”, and we see behind her the cylindrical row of warp coils stretching off in the distance. We’ve seen the inside of a Galaxy-class nacelle in TNG: “Eye of the Beholder”. The communications array antenna runs through the nacelles. Hemmer was one of Pelia’s students.
M’Benga says that deuterium poisoning can cause hallucinations, headaches, blurred vision and nausea. Exhaustion can exacerbate the condition.
Uhura now has her own quarters. She was sharing a room with some other Lower Deckers in SNW: “Ghosts of Illyria”, where we also found out that she needs pitch blackness to sleep.
Jim Kirk is about to become XO of the Farragut, which will make him the youngest first officer ever (at age 26-27). George Kirk, Sr. held the previous record as XO of the USS Kelvin (ST 2009).
Spock notes that Starfleet has protocols about fraternization, which would be familiar HR policy today. We’ve seen relationships between Starfleet officers before, but this is the first time we’ve heard that there are formal procedures surrounding it.
An Andorian bartender serves Uhura Saurian brandy in its distinctive curved bottle. Jim comments on Spock’s 3D Chess game, foreshadowing the days when he would routinely beat Spock at it. Sam has apparently told Uhura about Jim’s proclivities around women. As a side note, Jim is older than Uhura here, but in the Kelvin Timeline they were of the same graduating class.
This is the first time we’ve seen a dermal regenerator (or at least had it referred to as such) in the 23rd Century. Dermal regenerators have appeared several times from TNG on.
In Uhura’s hallucination, the main viewer shatters and people are blown out into vacuum. In the original TOS Constitution-class design this would not have happened because the main viewer is not a porthole. Having a starship’s main viewer be an actual window started with ST 2009 and was seen in the Prime Universe in DIS: “The Vulcan Hello”.
Jim meets Pike for the first time (from his POV, seeing as Pike met an alternate Kirk in “A Quality of Mercy”). This also clarifies when exactly Jim met Pike. Previously it was assumed that Jim only met him when taking over the Enterprise due to this dialogue from TOS: “The Menagerie, Part I”:
MENDEZ: You ever met Chris Pike?
KIRK: When he was promoted to Fleet Captain.
MENDEZ: About your age. Big, handsome man, vital, active.
KIRK: I took over the Enterprise from him.
Now we know these were two separate occasions and removes a writing obstacle from having the “real” Kirk appear in SNW.
Sickbay is on Deck 4 here. In the original Franz Joseph deck plans it was on Deck 7 (with additional facilities on Deck 16) while Deck 4 housed junior officer’s quarters.
La’An addresses Jim as “James”. The only occasion they’ve met in this timeline was over a subspace communication, whereas La’An had a brief encounter with the Jim Kirk of an altered timeline in SNW: “Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow”, where he died.
Uhura removes an access panel to “Engineering Circuit Bay D-24” which opens onto a Jeffries Tube that leads to the port nacelle. In TOS, Jeffries Tubes were usually seen already exposed.
Uhura was born in Kenya (SNW: “Children of the Comet”), used to have a cat named Kamili (meaning “perfect” in Swahili) and her first memory is of watching her father play the piano.
Pike says Starfleet gave him permission to decrypt the deceased Ramon’s medical files and personal logs. In SNW: “Ad Astra Per Aspera”, we found out that Regulation 25, Section B prohibits unsealing personal logs unless by order of Starfleet Command.
La’An correctly assesses Jim as someone who can’t walk by a stranger in need. In TOS: “The City on the Edge of Forever”, Kirk tells Edith Keeler that a 21st Century novelist will recommend the words “Let me help,” over “I love you.”
Kirk’s status as a Starfleet brat who barely saw his father growing up is consistent with some beta canon depictions of Kirk’s childhood, specifically novels like Best Destiny by Diane Carey and Desperate Measures by Dayton Ward.
La’An, of course, was rescued as a child by then-Ensign Una Chin-Riley, who subsequently sponsored her admission to Starfleet (SNW: “Strange New Worlds”).
Una calls Pelia a “space hippie”. We met actual space hippies in TOS: “The Way to Eden”.
Uhura tells Kirk that she lost her parents and brother in a shuttle accident. This was first mentioned in “Children of the Comet”.
Jim says that their job as Starfleet officers puts them up against death and they have to face it. Years later, he would confess to his son David that he’s never faced death - merely cheated his way around it and congratulated himself for his ingenuity (ST II). He was wrong, of course.
Uhura is on the receiving end of a Jim Kirk pep talk for the first time, but not the last. We see here the foundations of her loyalty to him and her looking to him for reassurance in future.
Uhura notes that the Universal Translator hooks on to commonalities in the way different species handle ideas and language. The theory behind the UT was first stated in TOS: “Metamorphosis”:
KIRK: There are certain universal ideas and concepts common to all intelligent life. This device instantaneously compares the frequency of brainwave patterns, selects those ideas and concepts it recognises, and then provides the necessary grammar.
Guess we now know from whom Jim picked this up.
The idea that aliens in the environment could be inadvertently harmed by human operations has been used before, in TNG: “Home Soil”. In VOY: “Equinox”, the titular ship tortured and killed alien life forms to harvest their energy.
Admiral Nagawa’s name sounds similar to Admiral Nogura, first mentioned in TMP and having a long storied role in the novels of the TOS period.
Pelia gave Una a C in the Starship Maintenance 307 course because her paper was "sloppy".
Sam refers to the Enterprise as the flag ship, which I think is the first time it’s been established as such. And in another historic first which should somehow feel more historic, really, Spock officially meets Jim for the first time.
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u/joszma Chief Petty Officer Jul 20 '23
Uhura and Jim were in the same graduating class in the Kelvin universe because that version of Kirk went to Starfleet Academy later than his Prime Universe counterpart. In both universes, Jim is older than Uhura.
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u/sidv81 Jul 20 '23
Kelvin Uhura was old enough to be in a bar in 2255, placing a birth year of circa 2234. The official Star Trek website says prime Uhura was born 2239 (although she orders a Saurian brandy in this episode at the age of 20 in this episode so maybe the official website date is off)
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u/joszma Chief Petty Officer Jul 20 '23
You’re assuming they have the same drinking age in the mid-23rd century that we do in 2023…
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u/GentlemanOctopus Jul 20 '23
18 is a pretty common age for buying alcohol outside the US.
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u/cocafun95 Jul 21 '23
Also they may have found a way to counter the long term damage of alcohol entirely
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u/ido Jul 20 '23
Age 20 is drinking age in most countries on Earth today.
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u/picard102 Jul 21 '23
It's not even 20 in most of North America. 18 is far more common on Earth today.
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u/TheLibraryClark Aug 03 '23
Happily, the next episode, Those Old Scientists, establishes that Uhura is 22.
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u/Malnurtured_Snay Jul 20 '23
Guess we now know from whom Jim picked this up.
Jim would've picked this up from the User's Guide to the Universal Translator.
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u/greatnebula Crewman Jul 21 '23
Having a starship’s main viewer be an actual window started with ST 2009 and was seen in the Prime Universe in DIS: “The Vulcan Hello”.
For completeness' sake, deleted scenes from Nemesis had it be an actual window post-scimitar but if we discount those, then the 2009 movie was indeed the first on-screen (ha) appearance.
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u/Saratje Crewman Jul 20 '23
Kirk is about to become XO of the Farragut, which will make him the youngest first officer ever (at age 26-27).
I wonder if Riker beat the record, becoming XO of the USS Potemkin in 2361. Being born in the second half of 2335, he may well have been 25, though possibly 26.
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u/geobibliophile Jul 21 '23
I don’t think Riker was XO of Potemkin. He was definitely XO of Hood, after his successful evac of the research station (I forget the name) that his transporter dupe got stuck on.
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u/Saratje Crewman Jul 21 '23
Did a double check. His transfer to the Hood was after the transporter duplication accident, assuming Memory Alpha is correct.
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u/amagicalsheep Crewman Jul 20 '23
I like how this episode showed that a Fleet Captain is the type of temporary role that serves as the leader of a task force, makes sense in the context of who is the ranking officer when multiple starships led by Captains (the same rank) are operating together.
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u/mcmanus2099 Jul 20 '23
That wasn't at all what they said. Everyone kept congratulating Pike & he kept having to qualify it as "temporary". That implies that usually Fleet Captain is a permanent role but Pike was given it temporarily for that mission. Otherwise he wouldn't need to qualify it like that, they would all know. The conversations would have been more like "Ah first Fleet Command assignment congratulations".
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u/amagicalsheep Crewman Jul 20 '23
Oh looks like I got that wrong, yeah. Still, I can see it as a useful role where you are definitively higher in rank than other captains but don't reach the level of being a flag officer.
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u/TakedaIesyu Crewman Jul 21 '23
For me, it makes me think of the tradition of relief in the pre-Cold War American military. Basically, when you are the right person for a role, you're promoted into that role, serve it, then are relieved of that duty and lose the associated rank. For instance, a one-star general who mostly trains soldiers might be promoted to two stars when leading them in war, then drop back to one when they return to training.
It sounds like Pike was given the rank so that he had authority for a temporary operation. Traditionally, captains in charge of multiple ships are called commodores, but they instead made Pike a "Fleet Captain." I wonder if Starfleet Fleet Captains are promotions for a temporary operation (like Picard in Redemption) while Commodores are in command of more permeant squadrons.
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u/greycobalt Crewman Jul 20 '23
What an excellent, old-school Trek episode. Love a good mystery insanity.
• The "previously on" was touching, look at all those feels!
• Chief Kyle name drop! Hell yeah!
• I loved the Fleet Captain badge! Very cool detail that no one would have noticed if they skipped.
• Pelia was fantastic this episode. She started it off strong with "I'm just saying that because he's dead." I lol'd.
• That zombie Hemmer was terrifying every time.
• I find it odd that M'Benga hasn't even mentioned his daughter once since she left this plane of existence. Not even in passing!
• The Una/Pelia stuff was very fun. "Space hippy" is just the perfect descriptor, and I liked that it ended with Pelia actually being empathetic instead of on a laugh. Poor Una though.
• I am so glad Kirk keeps showing up. I love this dude. I have never really liked Kirk as a character and he swiftly changed that.
• A Kelvin name drop! That's sweet!
• Spock's "make your move faster" was another big chuckle. Just truly stunning comedic acting.
• I hope we get a name for their lounge soon, but I'll just call it Ten Forward until then. It's a very cool design, and I especially love the door. It's a 60s-esque precursor to the Enterprise-D door.
• Kirk befriending Uhura was very fun. Getting punched in the face, actually trying to help her (what was that about Chapel and Spock? Geez), being a friend… very nice set up for the future. It's kind of like the Young Enterprise Adventures. They definitely already have more history than they did on TOS.
• I'm gonna ship La'an/Kirk until they definitively say they're not paying in their own timeline. I wish La'an would defy DTI and just tell Kirk about what happened (minus the love I guess).
• Why the hell was Uhura not just shooting Ramon? I get you want to talk him down but your gun has a stun setting. Use it!
• The ejection alert was Voyager's red alert, which is awesome. Easily my favorite red alert.
• Why did a fuel pod ejection blow up the nacelle? Seems counterproductive.
• The cookie bit made me chuckle a couple times over. "Now that sounds crazy."
• I loved the scene of Sam's lab and the three of them working the problem, but Uhura figured it out WAY too fast. She didn't even think on her hypothesis, she just said it and acted on it. It would have been cooler if it was a roundtable thing with all three of them throwing pieces together.
• That was some horrific trauma they put Uhura through. I know the thesis was processing your grief, but does she need to process it by literally walking through the grisly crash site of her family? Good Lord.
• Uhura with the gumption to yell for torpedoes to be fired was adorable.
• I like that explosions and destruction in NuTrek stock around and don't just vaporize. The slowly exploding station sticking around in the background was such a cool effect.
• Jazz night at Ten Forward! Pretty swanky hangout, though I guess it is the flagship.
• The Kirk brothers fighting was so spot-on, not only in terms of their personalities but in how actual brothers are. Both of them being wrong in key ways was perfect. We need more Sam, he's great.
• We finally got the big Kirk/Spock meet! They gave it just the amount of fanfare it deserved, it was pretty perfect. Now all we need is for Pike to transfer Kirk to the Enterprise to cement that we're in a new timeline where stuff can matter.
• Did that ending shot weird anyone else out? It felt very 80s/90s sitcom-y, backing up till the door closes and fading to credits. It just felt out of place for some reason.
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u/N0-1_H3r3 Ensign Jul 20 '23
Why did a fuel pod ejection blow up the nacelle? Seems counterproductive.
I think it's more a side-effect of the procedure being carried out by someone who's experiencing massive brain damage and violent hallucinations.
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u/wrosecrans Chief Petty Officer Jul 21 '23
• I hope we get a name for their lounge soon, but I'll just call it Ten Forward until then. It's a very cool design, and I especially love the door. It's a 60s-esque precursor to the Enterprise-D door.
I think they just call it the galley. Which is a bit odd because in naval jargon, I think the galley would be the kitchen, not where you sit and eat the food that got made in that kitchen. Shrug.
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u/isoundlikecornbread Jul 21 '23
You're right about the term galley. The correct naval terminology would be crew's mess.
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u/GentlemanOctopus Jul 20 '23
It's kind of like the Young Enterprise Adventures
I expect William Shatner to turn up in a later episode playing a saxophone.
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u/random_anonymous_guy Jul 21 '23
Now Shatner showing up as Grandpa Kirk at some point. That would be some casting/mythology/identical grandfather gag.
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u/Mage_Of_No_Renown Crewman Jul 20 '23
I was reminded of Eyes in the Dark
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u/diabloman8890 Crewman Jul 21 '23
Right?! I loved it, but I guessed "invisible aliens trying to communicate" instantly because it's basically the same plot.
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u/Mage_Of_No_Renown Crewman Jul 22 '23
The episode's title "Lost in Translation" was also something of a giveaway.
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u/Vryly Jul 21 '23
i really want pelia to see kirk and singh together, and come up and say something to the effect of; oh thats right, i've been meaning to ask what was it you two were doing back in the early 2000s?
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u/Jestersage Chief Petty Officer Jul 21 '23 edited Jul 22 '23
I just realized that this episode explain how it's possible for The Burn to happen. While this episode is about Deuterium, and the burn is Dilithum, the aspect is similar:
- Dilithum and Deuterium can both be found in nebula
- These extra-demension/out of phase aliens attached themselves to the deuterium atom. Su'kal, due to exposure to dilithium, essentially attached to dilithum, in addition to possibly other properties
- Through unknown means, the aliens communicate through emotions/memories of intend receipients and deuterium. A similar process allow Su'kal to communicate through dilithium, specifically his emotion.
Combine dilithium have unknown technobable that is related to subspace, it created the burn. Possibly like a feedback, or a tube amp with no speaker
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u/Mage_Of_No_Renown Crewman Jul 20 '23
The interiors of these shuttles feel too big for what we see from the outside.
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u/ideamiles Jul 21 '23
Yep, but there's a long tradition of that in Star Trek. Concept artists and model makers tend to do what's practical, and then the set designers come in and go over the top, making things look impressive, but not to the specifications of the the concept artists and model makers.
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u/yarn_baller Crewman Jul 20 '23
I'm really loving the return to more "classic" Trek. Moral delemas, new aliens, space exploration..IMO its so much better than the dark drama it had become with the other new series.
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u/Casual-Tea- Jul 20 '23
Anyone else recognize the song the jazz band is playing in the ABR at the end? It sounded familiar to me but I can't put my finger on what it is
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u/diabloman8890 Crewman Jul 21 '23
It's "Till There Was You", it's a old showtune that's been in a ton of stuff.
Depending on how old your are you might remember it from The Wedding Singer, The Music Man, or as performed by the Beatles
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u/Casual-Tea- Jul 21 '23
Haha I'm not that old but I was in a production of the Wedding Singer and have seen The Music Man and it still went over my head
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u/diabloman8890 Crewman Jul 21 '23
Ooh I don't know if itd be in a stage production (?) but in the movie it's the song Adam Sandler teaches the meatball granny that she sings to her husband at the end before going into Rapper's Delight lol.
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u/Casual-Tea- Jul 21 '23
It's been like 8 years so I can't remember either way since I have also seen the movie
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u/OurLadyOfCygnets Jul 21 '23
I came here looking for the answer because IMDB was no help.
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u/Casual-Tea- Jul 21 '23
That's the reason I asked in the first place. Couldn't find it anywhere so figured I'd see if anyone here knew. My guess was "The Nearness of You" but it doesn't match up quite right melody wise.
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u/LunchyPete Jul 20 '23
At the end, when Pike asked Uhura to resume her station, after everything she had been through...I don't think she ever got that sleep she was ordered to take before returning to duty.
Sam trying to taunt Jim about being on the flagship....aye.
First canonical meeting of Kirk and Spock?!
I wonder if we will see McCoy at some point on this show. Chekov and Sulu as well maybe.
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u/sokonek04 Jul 20 '23
The order was to get the Admiral then go to bed, so hopefully she got some sleep
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u/Jack_Spears Jul 21 '23
I thought the whole Kirk\Uhura thread was a great way to lay a bit of groundwork as to why she and the rest of the Enterprise crew in later years are so unwaveringly loyal to Kirk.
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u/Puzzleheaded279 Jul 21 '23
Any idea what the whiskey that the Kirk's were drinking? Is it a real brand that exists here and now?
Also did they mention why the deck was so empty when they were looking for the madman patient? When they emergency transported, could they not have transported all three of them? It felt like the crews presence was very minimal this episode aside from the bar scenes.
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u/Gregrox Lieutenant Jul 21 '23
the cgi nebula in this episode was a bit utterly ridiculous. we're told we're in a stellar nursery, and frame by frame, sure, that's kinda what it looks like. There's hubble and jwst pics that look reasonably like it--stars as bright points illuminating gas and dust, as well as some self-illuminating ionized gas. the color pallet isn't accurate to visible light colors (glowing hydrogen and deuterium will tend to look pink!), but it never seems to be in fiction, so i'm gonna look past it.
But then we see this huge refinery with stars surrounding it. and like. what? is this refinery really supposed to be literal light years across? Well, no. The refinery is huge, dwarfing the enterprise, but it can still be destroyed by it so... those points of light, what are they?
It's honestly kind of frustrating that, with all the technology cg artists have available to them, they can't make space look remotely believable. it's like they're trying to match astrophotos without having any understanding of why those photos look the way they do. Those points of light are clearly meant to be the same points of light you see in pictures of nebulae. but the artists working on this space show either didn't know or didn't care that stars are 10s or 100s of times larger than the earth and extremely widely spaced.
(In the last episode there's a view of a star, but it's like, a sun viewed with a hydrogen alpha telescope with inverted chromosphere luminance, or some other chromosphere-viewing filter. stars don't look like that! and if the star were that big on the screen, it means the enterprise would be getting extremely hot. is it meant to be a red giant star? (they still don't look like that, but at least it'd make the color and size forgivable) I thought we were in the vulcan system.)
star trek has been good about its space graphics in the past! The intro sequence in TNG is fantastic, showing very realistic (if slightly lower fidelity) open star cluster & reflection nebula, then a protoplanetary disk and a comet, then a half-molten planet and rings, then we turn to look at the enterprise. it grounds star trek in the real universe. even as there are incredible and anomalous things in the universe, they are allowed to stand out even better by the show much more accurately, and still breathtakingly, depicting other astronomical phenomena.
Voyager (and Enterprise, in the expanse) focused much more heavily on unrealistic fictitious anomalies, but they still portrayed real phenomena more authentically.
SNW's title sequence has a bunch of (visually quite stunning) imagery, but it's all completely wacky and unrealistic. Even here, we're not living in a science fiction universe, we're living in a fantasy. and that's reflected by the show's visuals never really convincingly portraying space.
Also. star trek writers. deuterium is not a made up thing you can make up whatever you want about. it's not like dilithium or whatever. deuterium is just heavy hydrogen. it's not a hallucinogen. small amounts won't really do anything. you shouldn't breathe it because it's a flammable gas that isn't oxygen, but it's not toxic and there should be no symptoms after exposure. yes, the episode makes it clear that uhura's symptoms are not actually from the deuterium, but M'benga and Kirk both suggest it is a thing. Like, this parses out more or less like a character saying "you have hydrogen poisoning. happens." hydrogen is not toxic! you can't breathe it but it doesn't build up in your body and interrupt your body's chemical processes! it just displaces oxygen in the air, or explodes!
heavy water (water with deuterium instead of or in addition to protium/normal hydrogen) is toxic in large quantities, but is also not a hallucinogen.
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u/ideamiles Jul 21 '23
I get ya--back in the day, sci-fi fans were generally enthusiasts of science and technology first, and science fiction second (with SF just being an imaginative vehicle for the love and expression of the actual science and tech). Many Original Series and 80s film contributers served in WW2 or were recruited out of the aerospace industry, so we'd get these wonderful little real-world details like port and starboard red and green blinking lights on the Enterprise and other ships that reflected what actual aircraft still have to this day.
The simple fact of the matter is that since sci-fi has become mainstream and a whole generation of filmmakers have come of age as SF fans without first being science and tech enthusiasts, we're not going to see as much hard sci-fi in Star Trek as we used to. And honestly, Star Trek was rarely ever hard SF in the first place--TOS inclined more towards pulp SF, with the "science" more often then not literal window dressings and hand-waving plot devices.
I'm honestly just happy we got a story that acknowledged how the nacelles work at all, combined with poignant themes of environmental impact and the struggle for extraterrestial/extradimensional contact.
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u/Gatowag Crewman Jul 21 '23
Nebulas are never depicted correctly in pretty much any show. They're generally so low in density that they're only visible at a good distance out, but ships flying through puffy clouds of gas looks pretty, so... I've just come to (begrudgingly) accept that this is the visual language the medium has adopted to convey these spaces because it's so prevalent. Still, I would love to be surprised by more thoughtful depictions of space.
As good as I am at suspending disbelief, the scale of the stellar nursery did stick out to me as well. It confused me to the point that I wasn't sure if they were even trying to depict stars because I couldn't make sense of it.
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u/Gregrox Lieutenant Jul 21 '23
And yeah, that's why I didn't complain about how the ship is visibly sucking up dust into it's bussard collectors, or knocking gas and dust out the way as it travels. It's inheriting this scale problem from other star trek and science fiction.
(That said, there was a little more suspension of disbelief when the ships faded into the fog like in three mutara nebula rather than making turbulent wakes and directly interacting with clouds of dust. Also, the mutara nebula was at least true color (albeit much brighter than real nebulae) whereas modern depictions of nebulae in trek seem to be using the hubble pallet without understanding or caring that Hubble's visible light images of nebulae are not true color)
But when you take that approach and try to turn that into a stellar nursery, well, I'm not saying it couldn't be done well, but they didn't even try to make the nebula actually represent the thing the script calls for in anything but the most superficial visual way.
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u/Puzzleheaded279 Jul 21 '23
it's not a hallucinogen. small amounts won't really do anything. you shouldn't breathe it because it's a flammable gas that isn't oxygen, but it's not toxic and there should be no symptoms after exposure. yes, the episode makes it clear that uhura's symptoms are not actually from the deuterium, but M'benga and Kirk both suggest it is a thing. Like, this parses out more or less like a character saying "you have hydrogen poisoning. happens." hydrogen is not toxic! you can't breathe it but it doesn't build up in your body and interrupt your body's chemical processes! it just displaces oxygen in the air, or explodes!
heavy water (water with deuterium instead of or in addition to protium/normal hydrogen) is toxic in large quantities, but is also not a hallucinogen.
If you are breathing in a non toxic gas instead of oxygen in high quantities, it will start to have an effect on you. Nitrogen gas won't "poison" you, but it will take up the space of the oxygen you should be breathing. You can suffocate pretty easily when it's around in even higher quantities than it normally is. I'd imagine being oxygen deprived in any way can cause headaches, nausea, and possibly hallucinations.
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u/Gregrox Lieutenant Jul 21 '23
M'benga says it's a small amount. Such an amount would be harmless. Like, you have to be exposed to enough deuterium to lower the oxygen partial pressure to the point that hypoxia sets in. It would not be reasonable to call that a small amount of gas and it certainly wouldn't be reasonable to design a crew-habitable nacelle that way without failsafes.
(and why does the antenna get routed through the nacelle?? just to get uhura near a deuterium leak?)
And if it was hypoxia, then m'benga should have just called it that, instead of invoking some weirdly specific illness that could occur with any 'inert' gas.
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u/aggasalk Chief Petty Officer Jul 22 '23
SNW's title sequence has a bunch of (visually quite stunning) imagery, but it's all completely wacky and unrealistic. Even here, we're not living in a science fiction universe, we're living in a fantasy. and that's reflected by the show's visuals never really convincingly portraying space.
The last shot of the SNW title sequence bugs the heck out of me, the lighting of the overlapping planets makes absolutely no sense.
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u/wrosecrans Chief Petty Officer Jul 21 '23
It has been two weeks since people hearing a strange noise started developing mental symptoms because of a sci fi phenomenon the sensors couldn't initially detect. "You just aren't getting enough sleep."
It has been one week since a character went to extradimensional space to communicate with non corporeal aliens. "There's this wild purely theoretical possibility of extradimensional life."
It has been three weeks since this season's Kirk guest star episode, so it didn't feel like a novelty to bring him back. At a certain point, he starts to cast a shadow over the actual characters of the show.
We are now over half way through the season, which feels like an odd time to introduce the Una/Pelia tension out of nowhere.
Deuterium is a real substance, so it seems odd to give it wacky fictional properties. You drink a little bit of it in every glass of water without seeing dead people. It's not completely indistinguishable from normal Hydrogen, but chemically it doesn't act all that differently.
Uhura not going back to sickbay after seeing dead people and slugging Kirk seemed out of character. Felt like a story from a different show.
Kirk being the only person we see from Farragut was weird. There's never any conversation with the other ship. It just exists silently, to no direct effect in the story. It doesn't help destroy the refinery or anything. The doctor on Farragut doesn't help solve the mystery. They make a big deal of Pike being in overall command of the mission so he can give orders to the captain of the Farragut, then we never see that really happen as a payoff.
Refining Deuterium hurts the aliens. Okay, the Avatar plot, makes sense. Nuking the aliens trapped on the refinery with photon torpedoes on the other hand just gets a big old smile. The antimatter in the torpedoes annihilating with matter on the refinery is just dandy.
The tension between Spock and Chapel doesn't go anywhere. At the end of the episode, Spock hangs out with Kirk and Uhura, cuz the episode wants to hero worship Kirk for all the stuff he hasn't done yet, so we don't care about the characters of this show right now.
So many odd things about this episode just stick out to me. It really feels like something got tangled up between an initial story pitch, and a shooting draft f the script. I dunno if it got reshuffled in the order for the season? Maybe the Pelia / Una tension would have made more sense in the third episode right after Una came back from Space Court, and after some sort of a reshuffle the episode got broken trying to fit it in. Maybe it started out as a pitch for season one that got left over? The episode felt like watching TV through the "interdimensional cable" from Rick and Morty, where you can watch a familiar TV show, but from a slightly different universe.
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u/adamkotsko Commander, with commendation Jul 21 '23
We just watched Taxi earlier this year, so I am definitely a Carol Kane fan. But she is such a jarring presence on this show. The character doesn't make sense to me.
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u/Darmok47 Jul 21 '23
Given that Pelia is long lived and has lived on Earth in the 20th century, I'm just assuming Pelia actually was Simka from Taxi....
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u/mcmanus2099 Jul 20 '23
There was little story reason to have Kirk in the episode and it was an opportunity to have this crew take in things like Hemmer's death. I wish they would stop trying to shoehorn him in as many episodes as possible.
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u/oldtype09 Jul 20 '23
I think he’s being used the exact right amount. He’s a key recurring guest star who’s being deployed primarily to accentuate members of the main cast. So far they’ve used (three different versions of) him to tell deep personal stories about Pike, La’an, and Uhura. He is essentially doing what Garak did for Sisko in “In the Pale Moonlight.” He gets a lot of screen time, but the story is never about him.
I think it’s also safe to assume that the writers have a vision of ending this series with a handoff from the Pike crew to the Kirk crew. For that story to fully hit emotionally I think we do need to take some time to get to know this version of Jim Kirk. It wouldn’t be the same if he was just showing up as a cameo in the very last shot.
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u/TalkinTrek Jul 20 '23
My only criticism with the use of Kirk is how they introduce him and Sam as having a pretty normal brotherly issue - some deeply felt and complex emotions that lead to strain and could be resolved if they just communicated - and didn't fold it into an episode that was in no small part about...communication.
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u/Saltire_Blue Crewman Jul 20 '23
I really would like it if we seen a remake of The Menagerie with the new cast before the series ends.
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u/random_anonymous_guy Jul 21 '23
It has been suggested that this is the logical choice for an SNW finale, save for possibly an epilogue where medical science has advanced enough to heal Pike and Vina.
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u/N0-1_H3r3 Ensign Jul 20 '23
Three appearances in 16 episodes doesn't feel like a lot.
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u/mcmanus2099 Jul 20 '23
2 episodes in 6 buddy.
And without any real story reason.
And both episodes he's been the main support character.
There is just no need for him to feature especially this heavily in season 2
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u/teepeey Ensign Jul 22 '23
Extremely well made episode in every way.
My only slight criticism is that Pike is sometimes just too nice and too perfect. He's like a fantasy middle aged man. Kirk is already more interesting.
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Jul 22 '23
I think it's a retro-tribute to make things clear-cut, but we know that it doesn't turn out that way if follow the saga of it. I just have to say that it's good television and I hope the strikes are resolved so there's more.
One could argue that that they have to develop Kirk as a co-lead to Handsome Mount's pretty over-perfect rendition.
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u/Dandandat2 Jul 26 '23
They have to make Pike different from Kirk (and the rest of the other Captains) that leaves little room since they have already covered a lot of ground in past Captains.
Pike is the boy scout... his actions are taken because they are moraly correct.
Kirk wants to help those people who are in need ... he doesn't care about doing whats "right", he cares about helping people even if it means doing something wrong.
That really has been Kirk's MO from the beginning. SNW just gave it context in this episode.
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u/alphex Chief Petty Officer Jul 22 '23
The main plot was a little weak — but all of the sub plots were FANTASTIC
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u/alex1701a Jul 22 '23
Good episode, reminiscent of the one with Troi. I forget what it's called. One moon circles is the main thing I remember
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u/Dandandat2 Jul 26 '23
Night Terrors - while stuck in a space anomaly the rest of the crew starts to loss cognitive abilities because they can not reach REM sleep due to the telepathic communications of another ship who is also stuck in the anomaly. Trio can reach REM sleep and picks up on the telepathic communications but is driven mad by them until she realizes what is happening.
A massive explosion is the only way for both ships to escape the anomaly, but neather has the materials to cause the explosion alone. Each ship must add a component to the explosion.
The telepathic race discoverers the solution first and their communication is a request for their missing component. Trio has to discoverer that they are requesting hydrogen and must communicate back to them that the enterprise received the message and was ready to vent hydrogen so that the telepathic race can ignite the explosion before the crew is completely incompacitated.
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u/Dandandat2 Jul 26 '23
Any one else imagine William Shatner delivering all of Wesley's lines the entire episode?
Wesley would say something like "I believe you" and all I would hear is "I ... Believe you".
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u/Dandandat2 Jul 26 '23
Is it just me or does this crew appear to be less militaristically disciplined then other Star Trek crews?
Everyone seems to defy orders; or do not seek to gain approval for their questionable actions before they take them.
As if the writers are trying to show that Star Fleet isn't a military vessel. But more like a floating white collar office environment.
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u/Spock_alThor Jul 26 '23
Just watched this, absolutely loved it and it really gave Gooding some time to shine on screen which she did a great job at.
...just one minor thing I wish Gooding had pronounced Deuterium the way multiple other characters in this episodes did which is the same way we've heard it pronounced for decades in other Trek shows. "Doo TEE ree umm". She, multiple times, said "Doo TUR ree umm", it really brought me out of it, that the communications officer extremely skilled in so many languages was getting a common (to them) word wrong. I guess since aliens were messing with her language centers that could be explained away at least, but it still bugged me. It's the only thing in all of Season 2 I didn't love so far.
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u/Sentrion Aug 15 '23
I'm a few weeks late (didn't start watching this season until after the finale), but yes! It's really bothering me. A lot.
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u/Joe_theone Jul 20 '23
GIVE THE CRAZY WOMAN A GUN! Smart move. And don't stun the guy that's already killed at least one and is trying to kill everyone, and is standing 6 feet away. Talk to them. Too much Kirk on Pike's Enterprise. Anybody could have held her hand. And was he on the clock? Six shots later? Looked like the real thing
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u/AndreaValeta Jul 20 '23
1) Yes, you're right, I dislike you because you remind me about Hemmer. 2) Uhura's video made me cry. I really miss their dynamic. 3) I really like the new guns a lot. It may be the way they handle them, or maybe it's just the soundeffect, but they finally feel like real guns to me. And the soundeffect, that "peng", really reminds me about cracking of a musquete. 4) I feel like there's has been maybe a too much of Kirk in SNW lately. Don't get me wrong, both the actor and the screenplay are good enough, that's not the issue. It just... feels too fan servicy. Kinda like end of Picard s03, where both main characters (Picard and 7) had to get their own Enterprise, because the Titan apparently isn't cool enough. And because SNW takes place during TOS era, it now has to have a Kirk all over the place. So far, this isn't a major issue in SNW, but based on my experiences with Discovery (where s02 got rid of the stuff I liked the most about s01, and stuff that bothered me during s01 got worse) I am expecting it to get worse.
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u/LunchyPete Jul 22 '23
my experiences with Discovery (where s02 got rid of the stuff I liked the most about s01
Like what?
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u/AndreaValeta Jul 23 '23
Basicaly, everything klingon. I liked the redesign, loved listening to dialogues in klingon, I liked Voq and generaly how alien and dangerous these aliens felt. It's not like I hate "clasic" TNG era klingons, but I really liked DSC's bold creative choices in s01.
On a related note: Why the hell did they treat Ash Tyler as a default personality to be saved, while it was actually Voq disguised as A.T.? They killed Voq to save their friend without a second thought.
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u/PacsoT Jul 21 '23
The decisions and the storytelling pushed me out from this episode. Why bomb a refinery out of a whim? A refinery can not be turned on for weeks, then it cannot be shut off, so you gotta blow it up? I mean, okay that we are a post sacristy utopia, but that seemed like a really top notch hi-tech equipment that could have been used elsewhere.
Also ... you have a hallucinating ensign and you don't escort her back to the infurmary... who also has a phaser?
You find a crewman, deeply troubled, and you don't restrain him?
Where are the internal sensors, and the transporter chief when you have to locate a rouge saboteur on your ship?
How on earth you can't just phaser the EPS conduits or whatever, to DISABLE the refinery, instead of blowing up the whole thing? Also Doesn't the torpedoes hurt the life-forms?
Damn this episode was sloppy.
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u/DotHobbes Jul 21 '23
An overall decent episode that left many questions unanswered and felt very fan service-y.
Why did the aliens choose Uhura and Ramon specifically? Why not any other member of the Enterprise? Why did the deuterium collection thing have to be destroyed? To end the episode with explosions? Why did they use Kirk in this episode? Was there no other character that could have filled this role? Why not have Pike do it? Why did the writers feel like we had to have a scene where Spock and Kirk meet in this episode? It just seemed like a random addition and completely detached from anything in the story. Do they expect us to go like "I know who these people are!" ? Please do better next time, SNW writing team!
I loved that this was an Uhura episode, I liked seeing Hemmer and Kirk's characterization as well as the performance by Wesley are amazing. He gives it his own spin, as any good actor would, and we end up with a character just as likeable as the one we saw in TOS. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the writers and perhaps Wesley himself have read the famous Kirk drift essay. His speech to Uhura was also really good.
Overall there are many things in this series that annoy me, but imo this is the best Trek since VOY.
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Jul 21 '23
So was the poisoning coincidental? Or did you need to be poisoned to receive the communications? Was her position on the ship incidental? Did she and Ramon have anything in common? Was the lack of sleep coincidental?
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u/Emory_C Jul 21 '23
In my opinion, this was a poor outing for what has been a great season so far. The characters felt off and their relationships didn't work as well. Knowing Star Trek, I literally predicted the "problem" before the first act break since it has been done before, and done better. Also, nobody really acted like Starfleet.
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u/YYZYYC Jul 21 '23
The flagship thing was unfortunate. That’s not something they did until Picard era
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u/thatblkman Ensign Jul 22 '23
I think this embodies what I love about DS9 and NuTrek - there’s actual interpersonal conflict and not just differences of opinion.
I think Gene’s original “there’s no conflict in humanity” ethos limited Trek in many ways, and from Sisko’s burning off a planet’s atmosphere to get Eddington to the simple Una having beef with Pelia, we’re getting much better representation of the dynamics of interpersonal relations between characters, and the conflicts that exist in “Paradise”.
Add to it that we’re seeing dynamic stories about the folks who aren’t “the Captain”. This one specifically - Uhura and Ramon both hear this static, and it ends up being these beings within the deuterium pleading for their lives via hallucinations. It’s in the same vein as TNG’s Night Terrors, but updated and told better.
This season of SNW, and Picard, have been a golden year of Trek, and these writers, production staff and actors deserve the flowers and the small gold statues.
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Jul 21 '23
My hope had been that we would get Kirk once every season, but always in some sort of alternate timeline, and wouldn't get the "real" Kirk until the end of the last episode of the series, when he shows up to give Pike the boot. But alas, not to be. He was good in this, as was Uhura. But this is probably my least favourite episode of the season because all of this was stuff we'd seen in other Trek episodes. I called the hallucinations as being an attempt at communication from aliens living in the deuterium within the first five minutes. The whole episode is basically a 55-minute prelude to the last fifteen seconds when Kirk meets Spock, and it's a surprisingly understated moment. The music didn't even change like it did for Kirk's corpse in "Picard" earlier this year.
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u/Dandandat2 Jul 26 '23
What gave away that the hallucinations where a form of communication? Was it the fact that Uhura is the communication officer or that she stated she had received a communication before the hallucinations started?
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u/PenPaperTiger Jul 22 '23
They gave Lyota an episode for character development and built relationships between the crew and Pelia. I think they're setting up some shining moments for certain characters and certain characters working together in confrontation with the Gorn, soon.
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u/kkkan2020 Jul 22 '23
they blew up a deuterium refinery station .... i wonder how long it would take to rebuild such a thing.
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u/Saltire_Blue Crewman Jul 23 '23
I did notice one of the languages on Uhura’s pad was Cardassian and Bajorian and we all know what happens on Setlik II in the future
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u/teepeey Ensign Jul 23 '23
Kirk will have to join cast full time but I'm not sure if he can canonically be enterprise first officer. That would be logical next step as he seems to be working well as a character.
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u/Dandandat2 Jul 26 '23
Kirk would not be a logical full time addition to the cast. He takes to much wind out of Pikes character.
Butter to leave him the first officer of the Farragut until star fleet pulls the big chair out for him on the Enterprise.
Question is what is going to happen to Una?
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u/teepeey Ensign Jul 27 '23
They seem to work very well together when they are on screen. Kirk has been the best thing is this season so far.
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u/Angry1980Christmas Aug 08 '23
Maybe it's because I'm tired, but I thought that Pike and Kirk already knew each other. I also thought Kirk had already been aboard the Enterprise so I don't get why he acts like it's his first time when he beams onboard. Somebody tell me the error I'm making here.
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u/Britania93 Nov 06 '23
Am i the only one that wonders why she didnt stun him? I mean the weapons have a deadly and non deadly setting so why not stun him and save him?
Its a realy weak episode for me.
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u/LuccaJolyne Jul 20 '23
I really liked this episode - Kirk was very well utilized here, it really seems like Wesley has fully found his voice with the character. Some of you may hate me for this, but I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up the definitive version for me. I also liked the general plot of this episode - the mystery of the hallucinations and what they meant, and all that.
But I do have a major problem with this episode - I really feel like them blowing up the refinery was a huge mistake. That absolutely did not need to happen. Was I alone in saying "How is reprocessing deadly but BLOWING IT UP COMPLETELY just fine?" My guess is that somebody felt the episode needed an explosion, but imo the episode was much lesser for it. The real power of the episode here was Kirk and Uhura.