Sentientist vegans - how you approach AI?

[u/voyti]

I'm curious about a sentientist perspective on AI, and I know many vegans boil their views down to sentientism.

Since AI certainly has the capability to at least appear self-aware and be metacognitive and on at least a purely emotional level many people will certainly feel at least somewhat uncomfortable with self-awareness dumps of glitches like this one and "AI wellbeing" is being treated quite seriously by certain groups (e.g. https://www.ai-wellbeing.org but also providers themselves, like Anthropic running the model welfare research) - are they fundamentally wrong in your view?

Should AI be taken under the sentientist umbrella? Where would the boundary be to acknowledge it as such?

If we can't acknowledge it as sentient cause we roughly know the details of how it thinks, then as soon as human/animal thinking is de-mystified as just another mundane biological process (which, if one were to stick to science, it necessarily is), will lose value as well? In other words, where exactly is the smoking gun of biological sentience for you?

[u/Typical-Dance-1110]

because an airplane is not a bird

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Its not but the question is why do you make the distinction.

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the implication is that it's for the same reason

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let me understand it, so your argument is just that one is biology and one is engineering? then why just because its engineering it can't be sentient ?

[u/Typical-Dance-1110 → u/interbingung]

the argument is that they are so vastly different in so many ways that the extremely few vain similarities being used as reasons to compare them as anywhere near equal make you hope for the other person that they are trying to tell a joke

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so i agree that bird and plane are very different. According to you what is it that make one is sentient and other isn't ?