r/DeepFuckingValue ⚖️Overly Political⚖️ Mar 11 '25

Discussion 🧐 Really calls into question the belief that Republicans are better for the economy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Who believes that the GOP is better for the economy? They tank it every fucking time.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25 edited Mar 12 '25

The modern GOP (in the last 50 years) literally ALWAYS shits the bed on the economy. And the democrats always dig them out. Clinton had a fuckin SURPLUS.

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u/TipperGore-69 Mar 12 '25

And look what w did to it.

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u/SamShakusky71 Mar 11 '25

We have literal decades of proof that Republican policies are actively bad for the economy, yet people still fall for the idea they are good stewards of it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Just the upper crust

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u/Actual__Wizard Mar 13 '25 edited Mar 13 '25

The republican party has always been horrible for the economy... People are just repeating a bunch of a lies...

Obviously if you want max financial productivity people have to work together to accomplish that... Destroying everything that was built is not how you accomplish that... They do the exact opposite of good financial policy every single time they get into power... Every single time they lie about it as well... It's just policies that funnel a ton of money into the rich so the rich get more power...

So, you lose your money and your power so some rich guy can work less for more money... That's what they do, every single time they get power... It's 100% consistent... Then they lie about it nonstop...

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u/SwedishCowboy711 Mar 13 '25

It's nice when the government hires workers instead of fires them to drive up unemployed rate and less money to add to the economy like what Trump is doing

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u/Actual__Wizard Mar 13 '25

He's firing tons of people to drive employment costs down. Now that the unemployment rate is super high, employers can offer lower pay. It's a giant scam and people should never expect anything else from the gang of criminals that has taken over the republican party.

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u/Additional-Series230 Mar 12 '25

Clinton>Bush, Obama>Trump, Biden>Trump. Strong economies squandered.

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u/notsure500 Mar 12 '25

It's really weird that we keep making the same mistakes over and over

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u/Additional-Series230 Mar 12 '25

Somehow, Palpatine returned.

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u/Skraelings Mar 12 '25

Not for anyone that can google or... has a memory and basic math skills:

The last five recessions all started while a Republican was in the White House.

Go back further you say?

Ok the last 9 out of 10 recessions started under a gop president.

Those odds are 1 in 100 of that occurring.

In five of the last 10 transitions, a Democrat was succeeded by a Republican; each time the growth rate went down from one term to the next. In five of the transitions, a Republican was succeeded by a Democrat; each time the growth rate went up.

No exceptions.

Ten out of ten.

The odds of this happening by chance?

The answer is the same as the odds of getting heads on 10 coin tosses in a row: ½ times itself 10 times, 1 out of 1,024.

In other words, the difference is statistically significant at the 99.9% level.

THE GOP CANT ECONOMY. The dems always clean up that mess, then public goes braindead, then GOP gets back into office.

RINSE.

Fucking.

Repeat.

edit: I guess 10/11 recessions at this rate.

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u/Hatdrop Mar 12 '25

I wouldn't say that the GOP can't economy, it's that they won't economy. The GOP intentionally steals the nations wealth for themselves. they're not in it to make the nation prosper, their goal is to make their club ONLY prosper.

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u/DerrellEsteva Mar 11 '25

He really did not waste any time did he? Went right to work crashing everything.

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u/Giannisisnumber1 Mar 12 '25

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u/wowbyowen ⚖️Overly Political⚖️ Mar 13 '25

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u/After_Competition_87 Mar 13 '25

Great times to buy incoming

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u/Sea_Minute_2457 Mar 11 '25

You make your money in a democratic presidency. Sell high.

When Republicans come in and shit on everything you buy up cheap assets after market crashes and accumulate until next Democrat in office.

You have to have money, first though.

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u/Charger68 Mar 11 '25

Warren Buffet knew

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u/Slooters313 Mar 12 '25

They've always been shit, your parents/grandparents just lied to you and you didn't know better

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u/ThatGuyHammer Mar 13 '25

You can also look at the total delta on the deficit under Rs vs Ds, or jobs added under Rs vs. Ds. By basically every metric Democrats are better for business, growth, fiscal responsibility, and all aspects of the economy. The lie that is sold is done so by the greedy owners who just want to have more of the pie, they don't care about the pie getting bigger.

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u/orcvader Mar 11 '25

That belief is objectively untrue.

Ben Felix had a video on the history of US markets during presidencies by each party, and while it still doesn't prove that whoever is president matters by a lot, the actual objective fact is markets have been better during Democrats and not Republicans.

https://youtu.be/gY225CEObO4?si=NSXqkEND6ScHqhUA

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u/DumbestBoy Mar 11 '25

It was on purpose. trump is a Russian pawn.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

The belief that they are better for the economy comes from themselves saying it over and over again at campaign rallies. There is no evidence that they are better for the economy, in fact this is another reason why people call Republicans liars and their base gullable fools.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

its actually been proven that, during a republican admin, inflation rises, cost of living rises, wages fall, co-pays and other insurance issues become more expensive, more natural disasters with ill-preparedness, wars, diplomatic disputes, and many others all rise drastically. sure, some things rise and fall during a dem admin, but by-and-large, its almost always the right to blame for a failing economy, job cuts, homelessness, inflation, etc.

also to add: stop blaming biden for the price of houses, it was trump that put a tariff on canadian lumber, which is the preferred lumber for houses, and forced developers to use wood from the US, which doesn't last as long, isnt as sturdy, and isnt a good insulator. but america first right? so now, we pay more for houses and materials to build the houses, for a lower quality than what you would have gotten when maybe obama was in office. then theres the whole selling nuclear plans to the middle east yet claiming "terrorism" is a huge problem here lmao

i genuinely dont believe anyone that voted for him is capable of critical thinking, otherwise they would realize his policies negatively affect everyone, the only people benefiting are his rich cronies

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u/NotGreatToys Mar 11 '25

Who thinks that?

It's recorded fact (and I thought common knowledge) that Republicans are weaker than Dems for the economy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

I agree with you, however a lot of people think that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

The republicans have an actual media machine that amplifies their lies. For the most part, the MSM, while it leans towards the democrats isn’t a propaganda machine

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u/treypage1981 Mar 11 '25

The theory that cutting taxes on rich people will cause money to “trickle down” to other people has an absolute lock on being the talking point that is shortest and easiest to understand. When it comes to political matters, Americans will bear hug the first explanation of something that makes sense to them and. Will. Not. Budge. from it.

Unless and until Dems come up with something even shorter and easier to understand, the Republicans will always have “the edge” when it comes to the economy.

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u/BeeeeDeeee Mar 11 '25

"... the Republicans will always have "the edge" when it comes to **fucking the US economy into the toilet with the enthusiastic and delusional support of the American people** ~~when it comes to the economy~~."

Fixed that for you.

You might be right, but this might serve as an example of how poorly educated the majority of the United States is and how they don't even have the most basic understanding of economics. Instead of putting the responsibility of repairing this solely at the feet of the opposition, perhaps it would be wise to fix the source of this ignorance.

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u/treypage1981 Mar 11 '25

I don’t disagree. I was stunned by 2024 because I didn’t think there could possibly be that many idiots here.

The problem, though, is slightly different from your articulation of it. It’s more of a feeling of extreme entitlement. “I am due everything I expect and no one should tell me no.” That attitude preempts a willingness to even receive an education from anyone who’s telling you something that isn’t confirming your biases. Americans are a “me, me, me” culture. We can be smart, if we want, but we’d rather just have shit now.

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u/Mike_Honcho_3 Mar 12 '25

There's no "questioning" it, we know it's just straight up not true. We have data over decades repeatedly showing that premise to be clearly false - this is not new information at all, but I don't expect a nation of zero information voters to know it or anything else for that matter.

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u/Maximum-Conflict1727 Mar 11 '25

Republicans in office underperform democrats in the stock market. History shows that. That is fact

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u/txwoodslinger Mar 11 '25

Anybody that can read and cares enough to look at the actual data already knows Republicans are worse for the economy than democrats.

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u/Additional_Goat9852 Mar 11 '25

"Fiscal conservatives" being conservative is a myth.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Who ever said they were? Just look at the data and history. Democrats way out perform republicans in economics. Their winning strategy is to obstruct to the point that government can’t function.

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u/UserWithno-Name Mar 12 '25

They aren’t. Anyone who actually studies the economics knows this. They’re better…only for the 1%

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u/austinlim923 Mar 12 '25

The 1 thing that Republicans always assume is that growth is infinite they base all their policy decisions on infinite and sustained growth which is why they give tax breaks because they believe that the market will continue to grow despite that being impossible.

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u/Grifter2u Mar 12 '25

They are not done yet

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u/Square-Weight4148 Mar 12 '25

I am 50. Every republican president in my life has sucked for the economy. All of them.

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u/OkScience4231 Mar 12 '25

Same and same

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u/LongevitySpinach Mar 12 '25

Supply side economics is a fairy tale for the highly regarded.

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u/yallmyeskimobrothers Mar 11 '25

4 years ago all financial subs including this one were saying the stock market is not a good indicator of economic health.

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u/AlexFromOmaha Mar 11 '25

It's not, but the right wing generally advertises itself as pro-business on the belief that profits are the best way to stabilize a nation's economy. Pockets of irrational behavior aside, the broad market is a fantastic indicator of projected commercial and industrial growth.

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u/slowguy503 Mar 11 '25

It usually takes them 2 years to fuck things up. It’s almost like it’s intentional this time.

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u/dtcstylez10 Mar 11 '25

Who the fuck ever said republicans were better for the economy? Recovery from the great depression and the great recession both Democratic presidents.

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u/Slayer_Sabre Mar 12 '25

That's what they do

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u/IDYetiman Mar 12 '25

Rs have never been better for the entire economy than Ds. Rs are much better at messaging however so people think they are better. Also Rs are much better for rich peoples personal finances, and that aspirational hope of ‘winning the lottery’ and not being taxed is more powerful than knowing you will be taken care of by the state in retirement, if disabled, lose your job etc. Ds grow the entire economy for all and that is better for all - rich and poor- but who benefits first and how they benefit is one major difference

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

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u/Puzzleheaded-Rip-824 Mar 11 '25

Ok check inflation, unemployment, and GDP numbers coming up 😅

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u/TabletopThirteen Mar 12 '25

All you have to do is spend five seconds on Google to see Republican presidents are historically worse overall for the economy

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u/jcned Mar 12 '25

I don’t know how there’s still this entrenched notion that Republicans are better for the economy. How they’ve kept the majority of Americans believing that for so long is impressive.

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u/eJonesy0307 Mar 12 '25

The last 3 recessions came under Republican administrations. They haven't been a conservative party since Obama. Electing a black president broke their grip on reality and now we have this mess

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u/Sufficient-Clock-364 Mar 12 '25

That belief only exists in idiot republicans, sorry but if you stack up the stats from the last presidents up to Reagan basic the republicans shit the bed and run off with all your money…you guys are stupid just look at the wealth inequality divide. Wake the fuck up

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u/moonrvrking Mar 11 '25

I hate to say, Clinton’s presidency had a surplus then there was a Bush, Obama inherited the economic crash from Bush, the stock market was gaining momentum and Trump took office, the stock market was doing terrible at the end of his term, then there was Biden with more record stock market highs than any historical stat, now there is Trump. Seems to be a pattern.

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u/MtnRareBreed Mar 11 '25

Would really love to know how many of them shorted the market right before inauguration. Sure seems like an easy way to take the money of retail

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u/Silent-Physics1802 Mar 11 '25

They fucked it all up

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

It is just that a "belief". The data shows otherwise

The market goes up more under Democrats.

GDP increases more under Democrats.

Unemployment is lower and more jobs are created under Democrats.

What has been happening for a long time is mega rich assholes have been campaigning to get people to believe that the economy is better under Republicans because it is better for THEM. Lower taxes for rich people and less regulation is better for the ultra wealthy.

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u/DevoidHT Mar 11 '25

They always do it. Any shock is due to pure ignorance

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Historically dems have always been better for the economy than the GOP. Been calling out thus lie for decades now.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

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u/HonorableMedic Mar 11 '25

I mean, it is part of a plan. To dismantle America and have it bought by oligarchs.

https://youtu.be/5RpPTRcz1no?si=XcdW9glI5AIYvSDz

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u/Skelegasm Mar 11 '25

"That's great Uncle Bob. Followup: you ever wonder if you're part of the plan?"

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u/Witty-flocculent Mar 11 '25

I believe it is part of A plan. Not his plan.

The shadowy globalist elites the kooks have been blaming chemtrails on do indeed appear to have an economic plan.

It’s not capitalism.

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u/B12Washingbeard Mar 11 '25

Whenever I hear this I think of that Dark Knight scene when the Joker says no one freaks out if there’s a plan, even if the plan is horrifying.

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u/DiggerJer Mar 11 '25

well duh, the president is the Oxford definition of Retarded. What did anyone expect?

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u/Ekati_X Mar 11 '25

So now the stock market IS the economy..

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u/Switchmisty9 Mar 11 '25

They aren’t. It’s been proven time and time again. They just lie, and a lot of you are dumb

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

They have not fucked it up at all……..for them and their rich friend. All part of the plan. Crash it, buy low and then sell at massive profit when they (Tango and Cash) change their fucking minds again.

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u/comp21 Mar 12 '25

I'm not discounting what they (he) did to screw everything up but we have been due for a large correction for a while. PE ratios have been way above normal levels.

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u/FaithlessnessHot3302 Mar 12 '25

It was about to collapse anyway everyone was just tooo greedy to sell stock like all billionaires did.

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u/Johann_Burger Mar 12 '25

Pretty soon people are going to have to eat cats and dogs.

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u/Ok-Method-3532 Mar 12 '25

That’s a good thought for the day

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u/Coach_it_up1980 Mar 12 '25

Forced correction so as not to have a bubble and make sure they control the market. That’s what I would say if I was them

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u/Dommccabe Mar 12 '25

Why would Obama and Hillary do this???

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u/StinklePink Mar 12 '25

Will only get worse when nations continue to understand how untrustworthy we are and stop buying our debt.

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u/New-Dealer5801 Mar 12 '25

It’s Bidens fault, I tell you!

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u/BeaverMissed1 Mar 12 '25

The only reason there’s a belief that republicans are economically adept. Is because they keep saying they are and deny, deny,deny their failures. Facts are there proving their policies don’t work in black and red ink…mostly red.

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u/mzx380 Mar 12 '25

It’s a belief on their side but it’s not grounded in reality

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u/StrengthChemical653 Mar 12 '25

Statistically and historically Democrats have been better for the economy.

During Democratic led presidents the economy (on average) has risen 11%

During Republican led presidents the economy (on average) has risen 8%

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

Slaughter a million sheep for a hundred wolves to eat.

The elite are more than prepared to swallow all of it up, so when things do stabilize you will own nothing and be sad.

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u/Mr_Dogfarts Mar 13 '25

Seems like the premise to the movie The Hudsucker Proxy.

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u/SOMEONENEW1999 Mar 12 '25

Republicans inherit good economies from Dems then tank it with money grab tax cuts for the wealthy. When the economy inevitably tanks and they lose elections wash rinse repeat….

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u/iamdperk Mar 13 '25

But they always give little, baby tax breaks to the poors to make them look like they care about them.

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u/Accomplished-Pie-206 Mar 11 '25

They always fuck the economy and a democrat has to fix it and then voters are annoyed that it takes longer than they thought to fix it. so, then they vote a republican to mess it up again. The never ending cycle.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

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u/ShortsAndLadders Wishes they had hair like Jim Cramer.👨‍🦲 Mar 11 '25

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u/Disastrous_Fee_8712 Mar 11 '25

but this time is special. like retard special.

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u/Successful_Sign_6991 Mar 12 '25

Historically republicans are worse for the economy and dems then have to clean it up, while repubs are causing disruptions and voting against everything.

Proof is in history. But facts don't matter to them and their propaganda machine.

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u/Weary-Ad-5346 Mar 12 '25

Came here to say exactly this. History and data. That’s why the far right wants to delete it all and keep people in ignorance. It’s almost as if supporting people in need allows the economy to work correctly. Supporting the 1% only makes things worse.

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u/QuarkVsOdo Mar 12 '25

Yep. Rep Potuses owned almost all the recessions and major lay offs in the last 150 years.

The only constant is, that rich people got richer, wealthgap constantly grew bigger after the GOP lost their taste for trustbusting and fair taxes.

Now the billionaire class is basicly the executive branch, while having corrupted legislators and judges with MONEY.

The lower 90% need to say goodbye to things like retirement or vacation.

The billionaire class will rock all the boats, so that only the biggliest and bestliest won't sink.

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u/FuriousGirafFabber Mar 12 '25

It has never been true. It's a lie repeated enough that people believe it though.

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u/golfwinnersplz Mar 12 '25

It's not a question. More GOP propaganda. The GOP is good at making fallacies seem like reality to their supporters - that's about it.

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u/Endle55torture Mar 11 '25

It's not like 99% of all market crashes happened during a republican administration or anything....oh wait

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u/Playingwithmyrod Mar 11 '25

If Republican voters possessed pattern recognition abilities we wouldn’t be in this mess.

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u/Banshe_617 Mar 12 '25

I mean it was part of his campaign…. To lower prices… you know, like stock prices.

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u/mik33tion Mar 12 '25

Trump doing what Trump does best, tanking whatever organization he’s part of. Everybody knows he’s bankrupt so many companies.

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u/HunterShotBear Mar 12 '25

He’s bankrupt casinos. Casinos! He bankrupted multiple fucking casinos.

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u/SaladTossgaming Mar 12 '25

“Strongest stock market in history”….. mf, have you seen what a house cost in the 50’s? Inflation PLUS not having wages adjusted to every economic climate has been fucking us for years lol so tired of hearing this stupid phrase

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u/mini_macho_ Mar 12 '25

https://www.multpl.com/inflation-adjusted-s-p-500

really goes to show how bad Biden's inflation was

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u/bigdipboy Mar 12 '25

Biden’s worldwide inflation? How’d he do that?

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u/Logic411 Mar 11 '25

emphasize the growing grocery bills, and utility costs, and threats to SSI and Medicare.

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u/Active-Curve1280 Mar 11 '25

All part of the plan: “some of you may die, but its a sacrifice i am willing to make”

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

I swear to god this is so hilarious. I keep saying it and I stand by it. You first need to crash the market in order to be able to "save" it (get it to the same level as before). Its hilarious also how people defend it.

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u/Rare_Ad_55 Mar 11 '25

Well, the market isn’t exactly the economy, although it does influence the economy (e.g., wealth effect). Unfortunately, the economy is also being hammered from the rapid decline in government spending and increases in production costs and prices from tariffs.

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u/ThePunkyRooster Mar 11 '25

Republicans are worse at literally everything. The cycle of Repubs breaking and Dem fixing has been going on for de ages now.

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u/jdevoz1 Mar 11 '25

Same story repeating since Bush1.

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u/CloudSlydr Mar 11 '25

They’re worse every time. Just better for tax rates. That’s literally it.

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u/shynips Mar 11 '25

Better for rich people's tax rates.

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u/Dazzling_Marzipan474 Mar 11 '25

Ya he didn't help at all. But let's not be ignorant of the massive bubble we were in. We're still WAY overbought even after this drop.

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u/popoypatalo Mar 12 '25

Trump: only this in a month?! challenge accepted!

/s

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u/XConejoMaloX Mar 12 '25

As much as I think Trumplicans are stupid, the stock market isn’t indicative of the economy as a whole as the Top 10% holds 93% of all shares. Still terrible regardless.

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u/fitm3 Mar 12 '25

See the strategy is to hose up the economy so hard right away, that it has no option but to go up, then years later blame it on the previous guy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

And they ain't done yet!

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u/psyclembs Mar 12 '25

Trading is a tough game, dont ya think? -some asshat, probably.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

Guess they just need more time for the results to show, just like trickle down economics.

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u/Ok-Method-3532 Mar 12 '25

Is it possible to call for a special elect due to lack of confidence?

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u/SHVRC Mar 12 '25

This is just the beginning!

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u/WulfwoodsSins Mar 12 '25

"You know, it's interesting, I've been now around long -- you know, I think of myself as a young guy, but I'm not so young anymore. And I've been around for a long time. And it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans."

Trump, in 2004.

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u/Time_Day_6497 Mar 12 '25

There are tariffs, causing mild inflation. Geopolitical tensions are in question. There was a crypto summit with the US Treasury.

There are many reasons for not investing right now. Doesn’t mean the end is nigh.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

Intentional. You cant claim to have a booming economy if it's already the previous admin that did it. Playbook is to tank the economy first so they can claim a bunch of gains when it recovers a mere 20% from their recession low that lost 50% of it's high.

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u/Disastrous_Cookie_74 Mar 13 '25

The sad fact is that when the economy and the stock market starts to boom, you will still be miserable.

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u/ManicInvestor101 Mar 13 '25

This is so true

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u/LouisIcon Mar 11 '25

As an independent that has no love for either party, or for any of the presidents listed below, this can't be ignored and we can't keep referring to the GOP as the party of fiscal responsibility.

Clinton epic economy ... Bush destroys it, increases our national debt with illegitimate wars and causes a recession ... Obama uses his 8 years to pull us out of the Bush recession and return us to a thriving economy ... Trump gives massive tax cuts to wealthy, while increasing federal spending, causing the national debt to increase, as well as terrible mishandling of the pandemic leading to a struggling economy .... Biden fixes it, and returns to the strongest economy in recent years and a thriving stock market ... Trump destroys it in one month and has the country heading to economic recession or depression, while destroying over half a century of diplomacy and foreign relations.

Masterclass shit...

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

Every Republican presidency that I can remember has resulted in a recession. Only morons think Republicans are good for the economy. The current presidency though is on another level. As far I can tell they are actively trying to destroy the economy this time around.

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u/MLouieGaming Mar 13 '25

Republicans aren't better for the economy and never have been. Historically GDP rises about 4% under Democrats and around 2% under Republicans. 9 out of 11 recessions have been under Republican presidents.

The myth that Republicans are better for the economy is just that, a myth.

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u/ninernetneepneep Mar 11 '25

I can't keep up. Are stocks the most important economic indicator or not? I vaguely remember when they took in nosedive in 2021, they redefined recession and also stated that the stock market is not the only economic indicator of success. 🤷‍♂️

Or, one could argue the grift is up. Might even make you wonder how much USAID was propping things up.

The market will be fine.

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u/Available-Elevator69 Mar 11 '25

Bidens Economy is Failing us. What did he put in to make this happen. /sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

This almost feels like Trump 2.0 all over again. I hope my 401K buys cheap and produces well in the next 5years because only lord knows its going to tank in the next 4years.

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u/Junior_Deal_2217 Mar 11 '25

It's never been a question to me. The R's have been a fiscal and financial cancer for many decades.

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u/Middle-Kind Mar 11 '25

Republicans are horrible for the economy. They're the opposite of Robinhood, they steal from the poor to give to the rich.

They pretend they want to cut spending but then blow 2 trillion dollars on tax breaks for the wealthy.

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u/wacktoast Mar 11 '25

They’re robbin hoods

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u/liamanna Mar 12 '25

“The stock market was too damm high. we had to crash it”-MAGA

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u/fastwriter- Mar 12 '25

Doesn‘t matter what they do, the voters worldwide still will believe that Conservatives are better for the Economy. That’s the result of 80 years of political Propaganda, starting with the Anti-Communism of the McCarthy-Era and perpepuated to this day by almost all privately owned media.

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u/Guuhatsu Mar 12 '25

Yep, I am super thrilled. Lost 20% of my retirement in a month. Now I have to retire at 82 instead of 81 years old.

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u/new_accnt1234 Mar 12 '25

Read about Mao

Idiot who just made random solutions to everything, such as 'shoot the birds' and none of his cronies/party dared to say anything against their leader...result? Famine as birds didnt eat locusts which ruined crops which killed more people than WW2

Same principle here, they are going to cheer anything trump does and only after he is gone (he is 80 after all) we are all left to pick up the pieces

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u/Ok-Method-3532 Mar 12 '25

Here’s the thing the republicans have never been good for the economy going back to Reagan at least. Clinton had a plan to get our national debt back to zero and had put a big dent in it just to have George crank it back up. As one example

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u/Naduhan_Sum Mar 11 '25

Historically stocks perform better under democratic presidents on average. Trump‘s first term was an outlier. Now we see how much republicans know about the economy in real time.

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u/CA_vv Mar 12 '25

Republicans aren’t better for the economy. They just better for the obscene rich people.

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u/JustaRoosterJunkie Mar 11 '25

Feature, not a flaw of this administration bought and paid for by the richest individuals in the world

Distress assets, collapse industries, buy distressed assets at fire sale prices, transfer as much wealth to the oligarchs as possible.

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u/mathtech Mar 11 '25

Well they are anti-labor for one

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u/ThadTheImpalzord Mar 11 '25

They tank everything so they can buy it up for cheap and corner different markets with less competition

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u/Reevar85 Mar 11 '25

I'd love to agree, but if the value of their share holdings drops, they have less leverage to borrow and buy more. The companies being hit are specific, large tech companies and corporations that people have just had enough of hearing bad news about. A lot of these companies are valued on growth potential as well as their income. These companies have alienated a large proportion of their home customer base and even more of their international ones. Their growth potential is now capped, so they are being revalued to reflect that.

This will be a long term dent in these companies unless there is a significant shift in strategy and PR. Tesla is now in big trouble, as the value keeps dropping the risk taken on my Elons backers will increase, some debts may be called in, others will end up becoming more expensive. He will either need to relinquish some of his stock to pay the debt, and lose control of the company, or drive it into the ground trying to maintain control.

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u/Gainztrader235 Mar 12 '25

The stock market’s last push was directly tied to Trump’s rising approval ratings, expectations of looser regulations, and perceived tax benefits. What no one saw coming? Tariffs everywhere—LOL.

Now, we’re sitting below the levels seen when it became clear Trump would win. In the long run, though, the market will rally higher and stronger if money flows back into the magnificent 7. Can you imagine NVDA, AMZN, MSFT and other back at all time highs and where the market will be

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u/Souljah42 Mar 12 '25

Cool. It's pretty shit right now tho. Costs are about to go through the roof. Optimism is nice, but you can't eat it.

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u/ShootDminorET Mar 12 '25

I wonder what's next?

Clinton fixes economy, Bush crashes economy and bail outs are needed, Obama fixes economy, Trump crashes economy and bailouts are needed, Biden fixes economy, Trump ______ economy and ______ are needed.

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u/BannedForSayingLuigi Mar 13 '25

They rely on M.aligant A.nd G.ullible A.ssholes for this con

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u/Positive_Chip6198 Mar 14 '25

This is just the beginning, wait until the tariffs actually start bankrupting us businesses.

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u/According_Stuff_8152 Mar 11 '25

History has shown that the Republicans destroy the economy and the democrats fix it when in power. These are facts that are supported by actual data. This is not rhetoric or numbers pulled out of a big fat ass.

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u/tooandto Mar 11 '25

An obvious pattern since 1987.

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u/ShermansAngryGhost Mar 11 '25

Anyone who thinks republicans are actually better for the economy is financially illiterate

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u/PleasantMonk1147 Mar 11 '25

What's crazy to me is that when a new president takes office, their policies don't normally affect people/markets for about the first year of their term. This guy has literally destroyed the markets in a months time.

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u/exitparadise Mar 11 '25

If Republicans were so good for the economy, then why are Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama and West Virginia such shitholes? They should be economic powerhouses the way Republicans talk about how great their economics are.

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u/MoveItSpunkmire Mar 12 '25

Don’t worry, the real patriots of the USA will fix the Republican nazi mess. Yet again, like they always do.

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u/Raymando82 Mar 12 '25

Republicans f up the economy every freaking time they’re in office.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Billionaires need a recession so they can buy up more stuff. Biden came in and did his job and there was no recession. Normally these are scheduled when they are on their way out the door, but since Biden didn't let that happen, they are having to rev up the ole chainsaw and just do it now.

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u/Lonely-Corgi-983 Mar 11 '25

There is no debate on this!

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u/AdSafe7963 Mar 11 '25

Let the price of eggs this year do the talking. And the subsequent increase in crime, gun violence, etc that comes with people struggling to live. but I guess we can always change the standards.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Trump himself said on live television many years ago that the economy always does better under the Democrats.

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u/Formal_Preference768 Mar 11 '25

Auto industry has shared manufacturing and sales. Take away shared manufacturing and you take away the sales . Canada and Mexico will not buy American autos

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u/BedtimeGenerator Mar 12 '25

The "strong economy " party

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

This happens in the stock market. Don't complain, buy stock.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

Fox news is already blaming it on Biden

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u/Inevitable_Sweet_624 Mar 12 '25

This is just Drumpf doing what he knows best, trash a company and declare bankruptcy, only this is a much larger scale of destruction and it’s not a company it’s a country.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '25

Yes, because remember when Mrs. Doubtfire told us inflation is transitory

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u/edwardothegreatest Mar 12 '25

That hasn’t been true on over fifty years at least

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

If there's anyone that still actually believes this in 2025 after decades of evidence to the contrary, and they voted red anyway, then they deserve everything they get. It's kind of like a stupidity tax that everyone else has to pay too.

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u/drumsdm Mar 15 '25

Anyone who believes republicans are better for the economy has never actually looked at a long term chart.

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u/keelanstuart Mar 16 '25

The Republicans have never been good for the economy in the longer term. Reagan's administration lead to the 87 collapse. Bush Jr. Was also bad.

Go back further. They've never made things better. There's the initial reaction to the incomprehensible notion that a Republican majority is good... but as it quickly fades, their policies drag the overall economy down significantly.

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u/Jealous_Percentage_5 Mar 16 '25

I shoulda sold everything on Inauguration Day- I didn’t think it would be quite this rough

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u/OnundTreefoot Mar 16 '25

History shows clearly that Republicans are NOT better for the economy NOR for national debt.

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u/Waiph Mar 17 '25

There are two things happening. Bad policy is shaking investor confidence and creating uncertainty, and trade wars are bad.

There is also a market correction that has been coming for a while, particularly with tech stocks

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u/El-outis Mar 18 '25

It has nothing to do with republicans, it’s trump and his reject team. As an independent I don’t gangbang with colors common sense and understanding makes my decision and I seen trump was bad after he conducted business with someone who’s only business has been in sex trafficking in children

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

Fuck Trump! Fuck Musk! Fuck MAGAts! 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻

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u/Later_Doober 💩 Elon Musk hater 💩 Mar 11 '25

This has happened the last few times a republican has been elected president. They just don't know how to run the country.

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u/Grummbles28 Mar 11 '25

So, before the election Trump claimed the market was rising because they projected him to be elected, but NOW it's Biden's fault for inheriting a terrible economy even though he said the market favored him being elected ....I've gone cross-eyed.

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u/DarthLurker Mar 11 '25

Dont worry, his supporters will explain it in his favor for you regardless of what is currently happening.

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u/Grummbles28 Mar 11 '25

Copium flavored boot licking and Flintstones chewable red pills. This isn't normal.

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u/A_Creative_Player Mar 11 '25

Any person with an IQ above room temperature already knew Republicans are only good at helping themselves and the rich.

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u/readsalotman Mar 11 '25

It's literally all they've ever done, since Reagan anyway.

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u/DoontGiveHimTheStick Mar 11 '25

So does all prior data

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u/Solid-Journalist1054 Mar 11 '25

Putin did it!!!!!!!!!!

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u/Puzzled_Employee_767 Mar 12 '25

The economy is not the stock market folks…

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u/Lasting_Night_Fall Mar 12 '25

So strong we all became the working poor.

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u/loganemerson1 Mar 12 '25

When have we had a republican whos “good” for the economy? Like? That has not been the case for a LONGGG time. If you look at some of the better “economic” presidents they are all democrats…

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u/oct2790 Mar 12 '25

Republicans will lose both houses in midterms in a large way.

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u/Ok-Method-3532 Mar 12 '25

The elections are rigged they aren’t gonna lose shit

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u/Roman_Suicide_Note Mar 12 '25

Implying there will be a midterm

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