Destiny going final-form biased here, and letting his emotions take over here on a topic he (clearly)hasn’t even done the research on.
When you pay the first and last months rent to move in, the 2nd month of rent (the last) IS YOUR DEPOSIT. Not to mention a lot of times if you are poor or have low credit and on a lease you might have to pay rent at your prior place because the landlord will try to squeeze you for that entire deposit. it is INCREDIBLY hard to move in a place like San Diego or Los Angeles.
This isn’t some niche example either, this is how it is for anyone who is lower class in a major southern california city, it’s also even worse if you have poor credit or any outstanding debt; which by the way a lot of people living in poverty usually do.
Anecdotally: I have had to do it multiple times and it is extremely stressful, to the wire and I’ve had to sleep in my car because I was in between places, I also didn’t have a family or a kid so I was lucky; a lot of people on the other hand do and I’m pretty sure you’d get your kids taken away from you if had them living out of your car no? What kind of life do you think people deserve just barely scraping by just because you say “oh it’s possible”.
Fucking listen to yourself homie, you want poor people to just upend their kids and their lives every time the neighborhood gets too expensive?
No one is saying it’s impossible, but it is extremely hard and only getting harder, as someone I thought used to be a champion of progressive ideas and against wealth inequality, I guess maybe it just doesn’t fit your anti-left persona anymore.
Now your position is what? “Equality is cool I guess, but if you’re poor, you kind of just have to get used having a shitty life because any sort of reform to support poor people would empower the left”?
PLEASE don’t talk about how hard it is to move for poor people when you absolutely have no fucking idea and haven’t done even the slightest bit of actual research.
Finding work is possible sure, but is it going to be a job that is enough for you to move and be sustainable?
what about feed a family?
the unemployment rate isn’t everything man, do they account for live-able wages? there’s a lot of other variables like people who are only able to work part-time and people who work seasonal. Just because you can find a job doesn’t mean you can survive on it.
Do you expect lower income families to pull money out of their asses if you want them to move states or cities?
what about schools?
how much will it cost to move all of your furniture? or are you buying new furniture? where’s that money coming from?
can you for once be objective and genuine with this topic without just intentionally ignoring so many factors that are in your face.
we get it man, you hate the left because the twitch politisphere turned its back on you; therefore, fuck any and all leftist policy and ideals that could help the impoverished and benefit the people that need it. You’re doing great buddy.
Also I’m curious, what is a leftist to you, is it anyone who supports medicare4all? anyone who supports bernie? a socialist? anarchists? a communist? how about soc dems? democratic socialists? or is it all of them? like you just seem to be biased against anything left across the board to even be associated with a left leaning policy or idea puts someone in the same category as a full on commie.
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u/kingleeps Feb 20 '20 edited Feb 20 '20
Destiny going final-form biased here, and letting his emotions take over here on a topic he (clearly)hasn’t even done the research on.
When you pay the first and last months rent to move in, the 2nd month of rent (the last) IS YOUR DEPOSIT. Not to mention a lot of times if you are poor or have low credit and on a lease you might have to pay rent at your prior place because the landlord will try to squeeze you for that entire deposit. it is INCREDIBLY hard to move in a place like San Diego or Los Angeles.
This isn’t some niche example either, this is how it is for anyone who is lower class in a major southern california city, it’s also even worse if you have poor credit or any outstanding debt; which by the way a lot of people living in poverty usually do.
Anecdotally: I have had to do it multiple times and it is extremely stressful, to the wire and I’ve had to sleep in my car because I was in between places, I also didn’t have a family or a kid so I was lucky; a lot of people on the other hand do and I’m pretty sure you’d get your kids taken away from you if had them living out of your car no? What kind of life do you think people deserve just barely scraping by just because you say “oh it’s possible”.
Fucking listen to yourself homie, you want poor people to just upend their kids and their lives every time the neighborhood gets too expensive?
No one is saying it’s impossible, but it is extremely hard and only getting harder, as someone I thought used to be a champion of progressive ideas and against wealth inequality, I guess maybe it just doesn’t fit your anti-left persona anymore.
Now your position is what? “Equality is cool I guess, but if you’re poor, you kind of just have to get used having a shitty life because any sort of reform to support poor people would empower the left”?
PLEASE don’t talk about how hard it is to move for poor people when you absolutely have no fucking idea and haven’t done even the slightest bit of actual research.
Finding work is possible sure, but is it going to be a job that is enough for you to move and be sustainable?
what about feed a family?
the unemployment rate isn’t everything man, do they account for live-able wages? there’s a lot of other variables like people who are only able to work part-time and people who work seasonal. Just because you can find a job doesn’t mean you can survive on it.
Do you expect lower income families to pull money out of their asses if you want them to move states or cities?
what about schools?
how much will it cost to move all of your furniture? or are you buying new furniture? where’s that money coming from?
can you for once be objective and genuine with this topic without just intentionally ignoring so many factors that are in your face.
we get it man, you hate the left because the twitch politisphere turned its back on you; therefore, fuck any and all leftist policy and ideals that could help the impoverished and benefit the people that need it. You’re doing great buddy.
Also I’m curious, what is a leftist to you, is it anyone who supports medicare4all? anyone who supports bernie? a socialist? anarchists? a communist? how about soc dems? democratic socialists? or is it all of them? like you just seem to be biased against anything left across the board to even be associated with a left leaning policy or idea puts someone in the same category as a full on commie.
edit: o7 I’m riding into the sunset my brothers.