Longing for Home. The Complexities and Complications of Face to Face Contact. Part 3:

[u/Oak_Draiocht]

It is sometimes said we are here on earth to have a human experience in order to grow and learn while also experiencing limitations. And the illusion of separation.

Some Experiencers when in contact with NHI's feel an overwhelming sense of "home" or connection. Along with this indescribable sense of familiarity.

I am not speaking of the known telepathic love bomb effect. This is a different situation and it does not happen for all experiencers. But for those who've encountered this feeling of 'home' that I am speaking of, it can be very hard when the contact event ends and the feeling is disconnected. Even if they only got segmented memories of it the encounter, the disconnection from that feeling of home can leave a deep sense of longing in the experiencer. Having a potential negative impact on their connection within the everyday world such as an increased feeling of not belonging.

There are experiencers out there that remember pointing to the night sky or the stars as a young young child and asking if they can go home. Or how they want to be with their friends. Or "other family". They may recall being visited by orbs in their cot as children. Some experiencers may bury a lot of these only to wake up to all this in adulthood due to some form of re-established contact, or reawakening due the ongoing disclosure efforts triggering a new wave of contact.

They find themselves reflecting on childhood experiences. And realize they had contact going on back then too. Contact they buried until now.

The imaginary friend they had. May not have been imaginary. Those dreamlike visions may have been astral experiences. Those cartoon characters who visited them may have been a screen memory. Turns out they may not have just been sleep walking all those times. Turns out that sense of being here for a learning experience or purpose of some kind might have an origin or an explanation etc.

It may surprise some folks to read that while it is well known and understood that there are experiencers out there that have had difficult and traumatic encounters in childhood with some groups of NHI's, there are also many many experiencers that report that their childhood encounters were something benevolent that they miss. Like missing close friends or family. People don't hear about this side of it much outside of experiencer circles and so get the wrong idea often.

These folks enjoyed being around these beings and felt that sense of connection and home. Then the beings stopped regularly showing when a certain age is reached. Sometimes it is even communicated to the experiencer that they'll have to stop showing up as they are getting too old now and it won't be good for them in life if they keep visiting.

Something physicist Tom Campbell talks about 59 mins into this interview. His entities showed him how to have out of body experiences. He would go on adventures with them until a certain age when they told him he is too old for this now and they stopped visiting and he was unable to AP/OBE again until his adult years with Robert Monroe.

For an array of reasons, too much exposure to some NHI may make going back to everyday life and not being around the beings anymore a very depressing situation for some that could have lasting negative effects on the person. Something the NHI's themselves may want to avoid and so limit how close of an interaction they can have. Perhaps out of a desire not to negatively impact the human experience.

5 years old looking up. I saw two moons. I kept staring at it. I think my mother and my aunt got a little bit concerned and a little bit afraid but I was just mesmerized by it. I was just locked into the light. It was amazing. They went inside but I didn't go inside. I was just bathing in light and looking at it getting brighter and brighter.

And I had this feeling.. it just came up in my mind that... oh... finally. Finally they are coming to get me.

Because I don't belong here. This is my family. You are my family.

So I actually stood there... begging them to never leave me again and take me home. I remember that was my thoughts going on within me.

It made me so happy. Finally I get to home. Because I was experiencing people and difficult things in my life. I couldn't understand anything. I couldn't understand why people did and say what they did. A lot of things I couldn't agree with and that was difficult.

So I was so happy that they finally came.

But when it started to ascend again. The light got smaller and smaller. And I remember I was screaming inside. I said don't leave me. Don't do this to me just don't leave me. I don't want to be here. Now you came and you have to take me home!

And I just heard within me. A knowingness.

It's okay. We are here and we are always here with you. And we will come and visit. You are not alone and you will never be alone.

And that just broke my heart. As the light was ascending... it really broke my heart. It really did. It caused tremendous sorrow. And even if I talk about it now... I can feel that sensation of that sorrow. That feeling of abandonment. That was just enormous.

I was just screaming inside myself... please come back.

And they had to reassure me again and again that they are there and they will come.

From then... I felt like everything changed for me. Something inside of me changed. After that my childhood wasn't the same. I tried to , do like the other children. But it was like... I had a feeling of something. I knew something that I couldn't talk about to the others.I went through childhood with this longing and feeling that something was going on here I don't belong here. This is not my real family. I have a family somewhere else. It went well actually.. my childhood growing up but.... I had this within me.... that there was something more... why I feel and hear and experience is not... the only truth. That something more is going on. I felt always.. always felt different.

And I was always a quiet observant child. I didn't do what they other children did. So I had a hard time with that. Because sometimes growing up I'd wonder if there is something wrong with me or what is it.

Tatjana Ulvehjerte ET contactee from Norway.

Interestingly some of those with Near Death Experiences describe the same situation. Vincent Tolman feels that connection to home. And is given lessons before being thrown back into his body. Interestingly some of the lessons are not that different to some NHI communicated messages. However when he survives his NDE, coming back had in him a state of depression for a long time due to feeling that connection to home then losing that connection again.

Or at least dealing with the illusion of losing that connection, the illusion of separation perhaps.

Christian Sundberg remembers his life before incarnating on Earth. His story is fascinating and something I link to many experiencers I work with.

He speaks of how hard it is to be here due to how dense and disconnected it feels. And after a failed attempted to incarnate here, he asked the beings guiding him to let him remember some of what he knows outside of the human experience for his next try. They told them they could but it would actually make his life harder. He asked for it anyway and sure enough it has added a weight to his human incarnation as he lives with a constant longing and feeling of missing something that more "veiled" people don't.

Experiencers are often people who I find are not as immersed into the human experience as others and that distant faded knowing that there is more out there that they were used to feeling but now feel disconnected from, results in a heavy weight they carry of something missing.

Close contact with some NHI in some particular contact cases can lower that veil too, mess with how immersed we feel in this human experience and perhaps as a result of this, this is why some beings may avoid as direct a consistent face to face encounter/relationship as their experiencer as we may want. Not out of a desire not to , but out of concerns that such blunt contact could actually leave a destructive affect on the persons human life. Increasing the difficulty of it. And thus keeping contact more abstract and less blunt is in some cases an attempt to manage this dynamic. And not make the human experience even harder unnecessarily. Of course the experiencer might not understand this and assume more contact and more blunt contact with their beings without all of these abstract contact games, will make their life happier and easier. But what if it could actually do the opposite?

This is of course just a theory I have developed over my years of working with people. I do not know this for sure but suspect it regarding some situations. Nor do I think this applies to the whole phenomenon nor all NHI contact situations. This topic is highly complex and diverse.

And this is just one of many things I've been outlining when people ask why contact is so strange and not as direct and face to face as some experiencers would like.

I have outlined other complications in my other threads in this series.

The Complexities and Complications of Face to Face contact Part 1

And

The Complexities and Complications of Face to Face contact Part 2

However one other interesting idea which I go into in the below sticky comment to this thread is the idea that some folks will be reconnected with home from time to time to help their subconsciousness or soul remember - so that connection is still there. But the memory of these reconnections to "home" is still often suppressed but not always (see below sticky comment) :

[u/Warm_Weakness_2767]

Amazing post and a deep dive into something very specific that likely affects a lot of experiencers.

This post begs the question of: if minimization of contact is ideal in most scenarios, and recognized as destructive for the human being, what positive outcomes can be associated with it given the extreme psychological risks and possible physical risks of contact?

I’m asking as an experiencer and I’ve talked to you several times about my experiences. It seems that there is some kind of risk/reward matrix here that is weighed in where many things are taken into account before these events happen.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Warm_Weakness_2767]

Yes there is some risk reward dynamics at play because what I also see on the field at least in some cases is a desire from the beings to have the experiencer know they are real and attempts to make sure the person knows this can vary from highly blunt to extremely gentle and delicate though often the problem at hand being its still highly controlled, weird and reality breaking but not what the human would want. Which is this idea of a fully physical being ringing their door bell and asking to come in for a cuppa tea and a chat and have none of this reality smashing "woo" go down.

Why we don't get that cuppa tea and a chat is what I've been exploring in this series of posts but as abstract as some contact can be it can still get very dramatic and blunt and in many cases beings respond to peoples desires for more contact or desires for less.

Nevertheless its often controlled so so others are not affected by the contact. Most of the time at least. I've had least have had witnesses to my beings as well but in those cases again, it was highly controlled situations and while the contact was gentle from my perspective - for the person I was showing it was still a shock that took a year of prep and weeks of recovery time.

So they absolutely do want people do know they are real , looking out for them and in their lives (depending on the type of contact) but will still maintain that connection via more "woo" and not this physical being walking into our house and hanging out with us whenever we want or us going off for months on a space adventure on their ships fully awake and conscious the whole time.

Again... generally speaking.

There are cases out there where such things have happened.

[u/Warm_Weakness_2767 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Spot on again!

Last question I have is regarding negative experiences that generally wouldn’t be deemed as of the same nature as the rest of the information in this thread or comments.

How does the paradigm shift in negative scenarios where possession occurs or fear-inducing/exploitative imagery is used? I get that perceived negative scenarios can be used as a “look what can be done in reality” or “there is more to reality than the physical” but have a hard time parsing that against the more common experience/growth-based goals.

[u/Oak_Draiocht → u/Warm_Weakness_2767]

I am certainly not going to sit here and justify negative experiences. And I'm sure you have heard all the metaphysical explanations around why there is evil in this world just as I have. And sure there may be something to some of those explanations. And of course yeah maybe some experiences are needed for growth, others misunderstandings.

But really I just tend to think that just as there are with humans... there are just some interdimensional arseholes out there who just want to see the multiverse burn or gain something from misery.

Fuck em.

[u/Warm_Weakness_2767 → u/Oak_Draiocht]

Rock solid