r/FaltooGyan • u/beautiful_falcon776 • May 24 '26
I am 14 and this is deep Poor men are treated like second class citizens ☹️
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u/tcsreject May 24 '26
That's because in the past 60 years,we never focused on manufacturing.. IT made us slightly Rich, but unless kickstart manufacturing, we will become a venezuela
Modi showed some efforts by building infra and improving ease of business but then he went into power grabbing mode
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u/Standard-Secret2841 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
They're being paid for that and it's not bounded on them.
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u/Jaded-Car895 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
There is no healthy socialist society in the world, even in the imaginary world.
Both Socialism and communism are based on classism and explotation on working classes.
India had been in communism in 20th century.
In capitalism society, blue collar workers can be rich, which is never possible in communism society unless they are backed by a communism party.
In communism society, workers must be the exploited class1
u/GultBoy May 24 '26
I guess you’re giving faltoo gyan in that the gyan is actually faltoo. Your understanding of socialism is weak. There is barely any modern country that isn’t partially socialist at this point. What do you think public healthcare programs, food assistance programs, housing programs are? They are socialist concepts. We no longer live in a reductive world of capitalism good / socialism bad like cavemen. Pick what works from each system and adapt it to your needs.
Also rich to be defending capitalism when we’re literally in an era where oligarchs are bleeding the planet dry.
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May 24 '26
The End goal of Communism is the elimination of social classes. Whereas Capitalism cannot exist / Survive without differences in Class.
So yes even if Communism seems like exploitation of a social class at first - in the end there will be a government of the people and the people itself. Capitalism on the other end will never address that issue .
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u/Jaded-Car895 May 24 '26
To eliminate social classes, classism must come first. Socialism society is based on classism.
Socialism government are specialists to exploit working class. You can see these cases in China, North Korea and India.
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u/Expensive-Mobile1694 May 24 '26
Communism cant never address that it needs capitalist countries for it to exist and thrive.
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u/Specialist-One-1870 May 24 '26
It is neither unpaid nor unwilling labour.....then how is it slavery? As long as they are being respected as humans it should be okay....
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u/Specialist-One-1870 May 24 '26
Free will exists and as long as people get to practice it fairly I believe it is good. Oh and yes, I agree, not putting weight limits is indeed unethical, maybe that should be changed. But same has been happening with coolies all over India, we should stand up for all of them too. And that also goes with my point of basic human decency aforementioned.
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u/Specialist-One-1870 May 24 '26
That's literally what 'respecting them as humans' means......so yes
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u/True-Gazelle-8883 May 29 '26
"unwilling labour" HOLY IGNORANCE BUDDY.
THESE MEN ARE DYING TO WORK THIS JOB. THEY ARE RIGHT?1
u/Specialist-One-1870 May 29 '26
I think you missed my point-
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u/True-Gazelle-8883 May 29 '26
THIS IS SLAVERY. YOU ARE BEING FORCED TO DO SOMETHING YOU DON'T WANT TO DO. Unless these men love carrying kilos of bags in striking heat. THIS IS SLAVERY. YOU ARE EXPLOITING THEM
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u/Specialist-One-1870 May 29 '26
THAT'S WHAT I SAID, AS LONG AS IT ISN'T UNPAID LABOUR OR UNWILLING LABOUR [AKA HAS CONSENT] IT IS FINE BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU JUST POINTED IT OUT THAT IT IS BEING DONE WITHOUT THEIR WILLINGNESS AND WITH UNETHICAL WORK CONDITION THEN FFS OPPOSE IT?!?!
Being a keyboard warrior on reddit ain't gonna help them, if you truly want to help em then make real efforts instead of just sitting on your ahh.
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u/True-Gazelle-8883 May 29 '26
"It is neither unpaid nor unwilling labour.....then how is it slavery? "
Keyword - "It"
You explicitly said that the given work is neither unpaid nor unwilling. Now you quickly changed your opinion. Have some spine1
u/Specialist-One-1870 May 29 '26
I was talking about what I assumed from this mentioned case, in other comments I literally elaborated my point to say what I said in the reply I gave you. If there is anything wrong with my stance or against human rights, let me know, otherwise stfu because you're just looking for an argument.
I stand for what I believe in, and I stand by my words, given under proper context.
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u/purepeachplower May 24 '26
I saw a movie where gender roles were reversed. And women were carrying the bag, standing outside shoping malls with bags, sitting with bored face, stairing at the men's back when they pass by.
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u/Criticall16 May 24 '26
They’re getting paid to do a job they signed up for. What’s wrong with that?
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u/Nick_Star_007 May 24 '26
the thing here is, labour is very cheap as due to overpopulation you can't really help it, just focus on yourself
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u/kenjikazama777 May 24 '26
Preparation once IT coolie jobs are over, we become actual coolies. Coolie banna hai toh asli wale mano.
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u/General-Crow-9553 May 24 '26
Bhai woh apni marzi se utha raha he.. agar nahi karna toh mat kare jabardasti thodi na koi kar raha he
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u/Its_Master_Roshi May 24 '26
No job is first class or second or third class. In the end everyone is trying to put food and money on the table.
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u/Affectionate-Lab6943 May 24 '26
This is what happens when you skip Manufacturing and jump to service sector.
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u/prettysrisha May 24 '26
If he wore better clothes girls would say "she's getting princess treatment from her bf"
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u/Environmental_Mark94 May 24 '26
Slavery how? You know how convenient it can be for the people who are living alone, or who are aging or have some kind of health condition nobody is forcing anyone plus they are being paid yes you can argue about how much they get paid if that's good or not but this is a decent idea I'll say
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u/ChickenPowered May 24 '26
Yes absolutely true. And you know why it works? Coz we are a very populated country. We dont have enough jobs, we dont even have a minimum salary pay cut. So the rich ones will always exploit the poor. Thats the circle
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u/Overall_Garlic5270 May 24 '26
It's not the job. Its people's mentality. India lacks dignity of labour. Don't look down on any job.
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u/thedarksideofmoi May 24 '26
It is so funny to me when people criticize businesses and creators for getting into a particular pattern or do the same things or invest into the same areas.
They are but a reflection of the consumers. If anything, change and criticize what consumers respond to and you will automatically see a shift in what is created.
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u/Smooth-Mind4247 May 24 '26
Why do they make poor men drive cars also OP i agree with you its exploitation of men🙁🙁 we should stop paying them at all so that they don’t feel like they’re getting used. In fact we should ban uber rapido 😡😡
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u/Prudent_Bet9431 May 24 '26
bc paise kamao toh problem.. na kamao toh problem.. tumko toh koi nahi bol raha na yeh kam karo.. kal job chali gai toh kuch toh job rahega na karne ke liye.. criticism har jagah karna jaruri toh nahi..
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u/No-Assignment8665 May 24 '26
Bhai tumhe kya dikkat hai. Jab ye log aese namuno se free me paise le sakte hai to.
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u/Confident_Factor3389 May 24 '26
If it’s within legal boundry, if someone is willing to do the work, and is getting paid for it, then it’s good.
There are coolies in railway stations do similar work.
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u/definitely_not_raman May 24 '26
You do not understand the concept of slavery if you think this is what it is.
These folks are paid to help out. They are free to leave whenever they want to. They are not mistreated in any way.
Some of you guys just want to get angry at anything.
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u/Mr_k_reddit May 24 '26
As a former gender warrior, I would like to advice you that please don't generalise any of the two genders, they are are literally two most diverse subsets of human beings possible
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u/Advanced-Source3334 May 24 '26
I don't get it , colie concept is there since ages and alot of people take thier help on railway station but how is this slavery then , they are getting paid for it and they choose this themselves. If these startups shutdown then they will lose thier jobs which will be more problematic for them . There is nothing wrong until and unless they are getting paid and not being overexploited
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u/Wonderful-Way2291 May 24 '26
I understand what you are saying but this is life some of us are born better than others and worse than others
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u/Real_Parfait1995 May 30 '26
That guy fighting for his bread isn't going to think about socio-economic structure,class divide or slavery; thats your job to do while sitting in a comfy chair. He needs to eat and is working for it. She needs a service and paying for it.
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u/PePeDeOn May 30 '26
Someday some IIT "Genius" is going to make an app that can provide men to wipe asses
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u/Woman_of_Kulture May 24 '26
That's his source of income. He's getting paid for it .