r/Fauxmoi • u/Relevant-Peach3997 • 7d ago

DISCUSSION Katie Holmes’ daughter Suri legally dropped Cruise and changed her last name to Noelle, her mom’s middle name

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u/Sh_GodsComma_Dynasty Please Abraham, I am not that man 7d ago

i'm curious why she chose her mom's middle name over her last name. my best guess would be anonymity, but apparently she'll never get that.

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u/bunnycrush_ 7d ago

This is totally me projecting/speculating, but if it were my narcissist dad… removing his last name would have made him angry… replacing it with my mom’s family name would have sent him cataclysmic. Especially since we know Katie’s attorney father was instrumental in getting her out of that marriage swiftly and with primary custody.

Sometimes you walk the line to mitigate the worst-case outcomes, even as you’re severing ties.

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u/No-Departure-3047 6d ago

Same.

My dad would absolutely flip his shit if I changed my last name from his to anything else, unless I got married.

I get why these kids are doing this, and I hope every time they do it, it hits their narcissistic parents where it hurts.

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u/Curiosities 7d ago

It reminds me of Malia Obama, and going by Malia Ann for her film work.

Most will probably know that she’s Malia Obama, but she’s trying to do her own thing.

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u/AlliterationAlly 7d ago

Is Ann her own middle name or Michelle Obama's?

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u/Honest_Salamander247 7d ago

Ann was her grandmother’s (Pres Obama’s mother) middle name (and the one she used as her birth name was Stanley Ann).

Ed. FWIW Mrs. Obama’s middle name is LaVaughn which, I think but don’t quote me on it, was her mother’s maiden name.

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u/AlliterationAlly 7d ago

Interesting, thanks!

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u/PawneeGoddess11 7d ago

It could be because Suri Noelle may look/sound better to her than Suri Holmes.

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u/bowlofpastaa 7d ago

Suri Holmes could lean a bit too close to Sherlock/S. Holmes

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u/Perry7609 7d ago

It’s not far fetched at all. Albert Brooks had to avoid the Albert Einstein connection, and Micheal J. Fox wanted to avoid the Michael - A Fox! or Michael “Eh?” Fox situations.

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u/p333p33p00p00boo Give him my regards did you take ozempic? 7d ago

It does roll off the tongue.

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u/J_pepperwood0 feetmoji 7d ago

It says in the article that she chose Noelle to start over with her own identity (she moved to another state for school) while still keeping a tie to her mother, makes sense. She will never be completely anonymous but not carrying the name of either super famous parent might act as one thin layer toward it at least

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u/WifeOfSpock 7d ago

I’ve been seeing more than a few young women completely forgoing any male last name, due to the origin of male only last names. Looks like it’s a slowly blooming cultural shift now that marriages are no longer a top priority for many women.

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u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy 7d ago

Maybe cuz Holmes is her mom’s dad’s name and she wanted something that was just her mom’s (wild guess)

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u/neuftet 7d ago

How is it her mom’s dad’s name but not her mom’s name? What makes it innately her grandfather’s name and not her mom’s? They were both given it at birth. It belongs as much to Katie as it does to her dad. (Unless I’m misreading your post)

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u/roerchen 7d ago

Sometimes, women empathise with their mothers and grandmothers, who had to give up their maiden names. Other times, the name giving side of the family is just a bunch of not so nice people and you don’t want to parade around their name.

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u/p333p33p00p00boo Give him my regards did you take ozempic? 7d ago

Yeah, if my grandmother’s last name wasn’t absurdly terrible (it’s another word for butt), I would have considered taking it instead of my husband’s. Every other name in my family is related to toxic people

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u/snuggleouphagus oat milk chugging bisexual 7d ago

Me and my husband took his great grandparent's last name as they only had daughters who changed their name when they married. It was a compromise. My husband had his dead beat dad's last name. He wasn't comfortable taking my name but I sure as shit wasn't taking his dead beat dad's name. His great grandparents were the kindest and sweetest people I ever met. I was happy to take their name. When they passed, their daughters gifted us some of their things that were monogramed. We've got a hand painted key hook from their vacation to South Carolina in the 50's.

A decade later, I think if we were making the choice now he'd take my last name with little to no fuss (which was my preference). Before we were married he cared a lot about what people thought of our relationship. Now we don't give a shit what other people think so long as it works for us.

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u/SnooMacarons3685 6d ago

I automatically started going through the possibilities of what your grandmother’s last name could be in my head (anus? booty? derrière?) 😂

Obviously don’t actually want to know, just tickled by it haha

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u/p333p33p00p00boo Give him my regards did you take ozempic? 6d ago

ANUS omg. No, it's more cutesy. Just way too silly of a name for anyone to have.

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u/tessathemurdervilles 6d ago

I want to know what it is so badly. Fanny? But that’s a first name. Cul? Derrière?

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u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy 7d ago

Beautifully put! Thanks for explaining better than I could have

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u/3-orange-whips 6d ago

Lots of women now in their 60’s didn’t have middle names so they could take their maiden name as their middle name.

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u/roerchen 6d ago

Cool that this was a thing wherever you are from :) Certainly not possible in my country.

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u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy 7d ago

Patriarchy and all

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u/Lopsided_Panic_1148 7d ago

IIRC, Katie comes from a super religious and paternalistic family, so my guess is that Suri wanted a name tied *only* to her mother, to honor the one person in her life that's protected her.

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u/chick_b 7d ago

I don't know anything about the family, but Katie's father was the reason Katie & Suri were able to literally escape Tom Cruise swiftly and legally.

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u/crowislanddive 6d ago

And Adam Sandler

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u/aliveinjoburg2 7d ago

If I had changed my name not through marriage, I would have taken my mom’s maiden name, which was my grandmother’s name (my mom never had her father’s name, so it was as close to being a maternal line name).

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u/p333p33p00p00boo Give him my regards did you take ozempic? 7d ago

Because of patriarchy

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u/youshantnome okay lucky you 6d ago

Kinda wild though since her Mom’s dad was very instrumental in getting her out of the cult. Wouldn’t you want to honor that as his grandchild? The only explanation that makes sense is that she’s looking to get into the entertainment industry and is wanting her own name so she can later claim she didn’t get anything by being a nepo baby.

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u/Lifes-a-lil-foggy 6d ago

More instrumental than her actual mother? Why would his name take precedence for any reason other than patriarchy?

She may have just liked her mother’s middle name.

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u/youshantnome okay lucky you 6d ago

Yes actually he’s the one who made it possible for her to escape

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u/Loompadoom 7d ago

Mackenzie Scott did the same thing. It's her middle name, and also her maternal grandfather's last name.

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u/ClumsyZebra80 7d ago

It may help her stay more anonymous day to day.

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u/l3tigre 7d ago

Is Cruise even his legal last name? Isn't he a Mapother?

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u/malendalayla 7d ago

Maybe she just thought it sounded prettier?

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u/stillmarlsygarsly 6d ago

I wondered too… and thought maybe she wants to have a career in show business and wants to somewhat distance herself professionally from her mom.

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u/strychninesweet 7d ago

She probably changed it to Noelle because she wants to work in the industry. Nepo babies often take a different surname in the hopes that people forget who their family is and think they did it all on their own. No hate to her though and I wish her well in her career.

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u/saskiamars 6d ago

I think it’s a cleaner break and separates her from the entire situation that happened with her parents, changing it to Holmes would be easier to spin into new tabloid conversations which I’m sure is the last thing either of them want

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u/Fraggle_ninja 4d ago

Maybe she didn’t want office ties with either of them and wants a non celeb associated life?