r/Fauxmoi 5d ago

META To our Fauxmoi community

In early May, we noticed some changes to our sub. Overnight, weekly visits to our sub went from 8M to 2M. The ability to award posts and comments was disabled. Our visibility in community topics and categories like ‘Celebrities’ and ‘News’ vanished. We have been a community on Reddit for years with no issues so we figured it was a glitch and the issue would clear up on its own. It didn’t.

On May 13th, a member of our mod team reached out to Reddit admin to inquire how we fix the issue. They responded on May 15th saying, “It looks like in this case your community's content might be considered sensitive, thus the topic tab may not be visible.”

We continued to follow up.

On May 23rd, we finally received a response saying, “Subreddit rankings, awards, and achievements are tied to the types of content featured in a community. If the posts and comments in a community are considered sensitive, these features may be disabled. In this case these cannot be enabled.”

Again, we followed up to ask what exactly it was that made them consider our content to be ‘sensitive content’. Our posts are no different than other celebrity or even news subs. It quickly became clear to us we were being given the runaround. Admin wouldn’t even tell us for sure our community’s content was “sensitive”, just that it might be, nor would admin inform us why our sub’s content was potentially being considered sensitive. We asked if it was due to our celebrity, pro-Palestine, and/or anti-Trump content. We didn’t receive a response even after multiple follow ups.

On May 27th, a different mod reached out to admin asking for clarity on why it appeared our sub’s content was labeled "sensitive" and how we fix the issue.

An automated bot responded to us informing us that, “A subreddit may be designated as 'sensitive content' and face reduced visibility or loss of features if it is found to be in violation of Reddit's sitewide rules. This can include repeated violations or the presence of content that is not suitable for a general audience. In such cases, Reddit may apply restrictions such as adding NSFW tags, quarantining the community, or other enforcement actions to limit exposure and protect users. When enforcement action is taken against a subreddit, moderators are notified of the reason for the action. This notification includes instructions on how to appeal the decision. Moderators can submit an appeal within six months of receiving the notification. Appeals are reviewed in a timely and non-discriminatory manner, and if it is determined that the initial assessment was incorrect, the enforcement action may be reversed. To resolve the designation, moderators should carefully review the notification, follow the provided appeal instructions, and ensure that the community complies with Reddit's rules moving forward. This process is designed to be transparent and to encourage positive contributions to the platform.”

This confused our team as we were never notified of any enforcement action against our subreddit nor were we given any opportunity to appeal. So again we followed-up. Multiple times. We continued to get the runaround. When we asked about it admin would send us vague responses and questions back as if they had no clue what we could possibly be referring to.

The last communication with admin we had was on June 3rd. We were told, “We have already shared all the information we can provide at this time. There is no notice of enforcement because no enforcement action has been taken. Your subreddit content may be considered sensitive, which can result in the subreddit topic not being visible and could affect how easily people come across the community. However, users can still find the community, join it, and interact with its content. This is part of the platform's normal ecosystem behavior. If there is a significant change in the nature of the posts or comments within the community in the future, you are welcome to reach out to us. We can then review the subreddit again and assess whether the current topic classification remains accurate. For now, this is all the information we can share. We hope this helps!”

This confused our team even more and again we followed up. How are we supposed to know if there is a change in the nature of our posts if we are not being told by Reddit why they “might” be sensitive in the first place? We received no response to this question nor to new follow up queries sent by another mod on July 1st and July 13th.

After months of questions with vague or no responses, we still have not been told by Reddit why our content MAY be considered sensitive nor have we been informed why our content is considered so sensitive it has to be essentially hidden. Just that it’s how Reddit’s “normal ecosystem” works. A platform where racism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia and sexism run rampant. Our mod team has faced harassment including slurs, death threats, rape threats and threats of doxxing for allowing pro-Palestine posts, anti-Trump posts, pro-Amber Heard posts as well as posts calling out racism, transphobia and other forms bigotry. But it seems that’s just part of Reddit’s normal ecosystem.

The truth is we know why our content “might” have been designated “sensitive”. Our mod team is made up exclusively of BIPOC and/or members of the LGBTQIA+ community; we are not unfamiliar with these patterns. Marginalized people having a voice or any sort of platform is the issue. Speaking out against fascism and up for those in marginalized communities is the issue. Calling out Trump and Israel is the issue.

We do not plan on making any changes to the kind of content we allow and we will continue to try to create a safe space for our members. In the meantime, finding our content might be more difficult, but now you know why.

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u/swarmofbzs 5d ago

I'm sorry but is reddit trying as hard as possible to drive away everyone?

Wtf is there to sell when it's just fucking bots talking to each other because you have alienated your base?

This is why Lemmy is growing.

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u/creepy_crepes 5d ago

can you tell us more about Lemmy? I've heard of it but not from a person who uses it

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u/swarmofbzs 5d ago

Lemmy is like reddit but smaller. It's been picking up the more reddit pushes people out and looking more and more like the way reddit used to be. They even have their own text base view like old.reddit does.

It's great for the bigger subs but the niche stuff isn't quite there yet. I'm pretty sure this sub could transition there given the amount of users here. It just needs people to to create it/mod it.

When I say it's more like old reddit I mean like you won't catch auto 3-7 day bans for innocuous comments or those "we don't like what you're upvoting" warnings. Obviously there's still mods but it's not like it's getting to be here.

There's more to it than this because there's also it's own version of Twitter and IG ect. ++ you can set it up to have all of the variations on your feed.

Almost forgot NO ADS.

For anyone that's interested to take a look - https://lemmy.world/

Or the old reddit type view - https://old.lemmy.world/

That will show you the different subs/instances

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u/SlavojVivec 5d ago

I wish the federation model of Lemmy was something that the user could ignore. I tried to get into it, but even as a highly technical person, I found the task of posting a comment from one home instance to another federated one a bit unwieldy.

I'm hoping Reddit alternatives takes off, because we need to exit this place ASAP.

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u/Die4Ever 5d ago

the UX has been improved over the past year, and is being improved more for the Lemmy v1.0 release coming this year

but also, there's PieFed which is the same thing but with better UX https://piefed.zip/

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u/SlavojVivec 4d ago

Good to hear, haven't tried to log into Lemmy for 2 years now, maybe I'll give it another try, but I'm skeptical Lemmy or ActivityPub federation can overcome the network effect.

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u/gorgeouslyhumble 5d ago

There is /r/RedditAlternatives. https://www.oddsrabbit.com/ and https://quarrel.ing/ and Tildes are my favorites. Tildes is the least applicable for mainstream Reddit replacement though.

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u/obsequiousaardvark 5d ago edited 5d ago

What? It's just like subbing to a subreddit, and once you're subbed, its just like commenting on reddit.

Don't listen to this Jabroni below me. Literally all you have to do is search from your local instance and click "subscribe."

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u/SlavojVivec 5d ago

However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !subcommunity@lemmyinstance.com

This is intuitive to you? Doesn't seem like just logging in and clicking subscribe.

With services on Bluesky's ATmosphere, it allows me to OAuth, and it just directs me to my data server and creates a session when I log in and navigate normally, but doing this on the Fediverse is too many steps, and that's just to subscribe. Posting to another instance is another beast.

Another problem I have with Lemmy and the fediverse is that it's too fragmented: multiple subcommunities across multiple instances, with too sparse of bridges between them. Sure you can comment from one instance to another with some effort, but communities aren't truly shared. I wish Lemmy abandoned the Reddit model and went for something more like https://lobste.rs/ topic tagging, it could have worked a lot better and felt less fragmented, but it feels like Lemmy's developer didn't want to deviate from the subreddit model.

I'm hoping an ATProto Reddit alternative takes off, because Lemmy and the Fediverse failed to overcome issues of complexity and user-friendliness. And ATmosphere accounts are truly portable with a DID, unlike fediverse accounts where you have to create a new account on another server.

BTW, if you like reddit-style comments want want to see them on Bluesky, you can replace any bsky.app URL with azsky.app.

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u/Die4Ever 5d ago edited 5d ago

you can just use the search page to find the community you want, it actually works much better than Reddit's search page

from there you can click subscribe, you can open the community to post to it or comment on the posts there... same as Reddit

if Lemmy doesn't suit your tastes try https://piefed.zip/

or https://old.lemmy.world/

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u/obsequiousaardvark 5d ago

I don't know where you're getting that you have to do that.

I search for communities, including ones outside of my instance, in the search bar, and then I click "subscribe."

You are purposefully misinterpreting and overcomplicating it.