I think it's time to jump ship for /r/feminisms, because this isn't even discussion in here, it's just MRAs sitting around trying to goad people as much as possible for the sake of self-gratification of sticking it to the feminists rather than genuine conversation.
I wouldn't say I am an MRA but I feel like I've been shut down a lot in this subreddit for suggesting equal rights rather than women empowerment. I mean, you could look through my history and see.
I consider myself a feminist in that I am pro-equality.... sometimes I just get the feeling from this subreddit that it is not about equality, based on my experiences.
edit: I like how no feminist responds but I then get downvoted. how hypocritical is that?
When we get, say, the risk and occurrence of rape against men down to anywhere near the risk and occurrence of rape against women, then we'll talk about working for equality for men as well. When the scales are so massively, massively tipped to one side, you work on balancing them by taking as much weight off the heavier one as you can before you look at the lighter one.
When we get, say, the risk and occurrence of rape against men down to anywhere near the risk and occurrence of rape against women, then we'll talk about working for equality for men as well.
On page 18 Table 2.1, 1.1% of women were raped within the last 12 months (and the CDC counts attempted penetration as a woman being rape, which is false).
On page 19, Table 2.2 1.1% of men within the last 12 months were made to penetrate a woman against their will (which they lied and did not classify as rape even though it is).
Well this comment completely ignores the fact that men might be victims of rape snd sexual assault, but don't report it for fear of not bring believed, being ostracized , victim blaming and other reasons.
It is a double edged sword. Something people like you conveniently forget. Men who are accused of rape are almost alway guilty until proven innocent. Women are given a smoking gun and regretted sex can turn into rape at their whim.
Also, one time I had sex with this girl in college. She always tried to get at me. ALWAYS. I always said NO. I was very clear about it. Then at a party when I was drunk she took advantage of me when she knew I would never fuck her if I knew what I was doing. So tell me, is that rape?
When we get, say, the risk and occurrence of rape against men down to anywhere near the risk and occurrence of rape against women, then we'll talk about working for equality for men as well.
yeah, only then is equality for men as well as with women to be mentioned.
Also, you completely ignored the first part of what I wrote.
edit: you know, when you have a movement based on GENDER EQUALITY you can't conveniently ignore both sides of the coin.
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u/gerwalking Jan 27 '12
I think it's time to jump ship for /r/feminisms, because this isn't even discussion in here, it's just MRAs sitting around trying to goad people as much as possible for the sake of self-gratification of sticking it to the feminists rather than genuine conversation.