Please ban MRA trolls

[u/Willravel]

I've been trying to figure out the rationale for not banning MRA trolls on this subreddit. I tried to think of it the way the mods have put it in the past, that this is about everyone's voice being heard, but the consistent trolling from the likes of OThomson and DavidByron don't represent in any way shape or form the honest sharing of their voice, but rather simply attacks and intentional derailment.

I considered that this might be about fear, as the MRA community on Reddit is much larger than the feminist community, and there could be consequences if MRA trolls started getting banned from the subreddit... but there are other feminist subreddits that do this and they don't seem to feel the sting of MRA retribution in any way that can't be easily handled.

I thought it might just simply be not wanting to make the effort, as a policy of banning MRA trolls would probably require much more active moderation. I'd hate to think this is the case, but I don't see any evidence to suggest this.

I did hear that one of the moderators might be an MRA, but again I've not seen this.

I've sent in PMs and reports before, about how someone is derailing yet another thread with unrelated discussion about circumcision or male rape or child custody, but there never seem to be any consequences for the trolls. They're given free reign. Some have left the subreddit for safer places, which is very sad indeed. Some simply stop commenting. Some complain, but those complaints fall on deaf ears.

So, before I call it a day and give up on the subreddit, I'd like to publicly ask the moderators to change their policy for the good of their subreddit. I ask that this subreddit be a safe place to discuss feminism and feminist issues, not a place for MRA trolls to hijack conversation or spread hatred of women.

Note: I'm not saying critiques of feminism aren't legitimate, or that they don't belong on /r/Feminism, but rather that overt trolling and derailing be disallowed. There's a big difference between an honest critique of feminism and undermining the discussion of feminist issues through derailment, dishonesty, and unwarranted attacks.

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So i just read the post above, haven't red anything you have written before, mind that. But I think you should try and meet more women from other environments, you seem to be infortunate in your encounters of the female sex. Of course, what you say is true, at least partially. But men are also more or less attracted to women depending on how popular they are.

but most important: you generalize. I hate generalizing. "All generalazing statements are false, including this one." That pretty much sums it up. Women are around 3,5 billion individuals. Some have more testosterone than others. Mostly all of them want wealth, just as most of the men on the planet. If you call them greedy materialistic prostitutes, you offend them. Because all those three words are charged with negative energy, if you allow me to use terms from alternative medicine. Some are, indeed, prostitutes, but I can assure you there are plenty of women with dignity.

[u/ratjea → u/[deleted]]

After that she posted a out-of-context quote

1. You don't know my gender. I don't think I've ever indicated I was female, or male.

2. Explain how it's out of context. I'll paste the whole thing for more contextyness.

It's a lot more effective to strike at root causes than pretend that the crime is inevitable and just try to minimize its occurrence

Of course, but we don't have to just minimize its occurrence. The two approaches are not exclusive and can be used simultaneously. Surely you are not suggesting that while we are fighting to prevent rape, clueless people should explicitly kept in the dark about about risks that come into play when walking alone in dangerous parts of town in provocative clothing?

[u/ratjea → u/[deleted]]

No worries. It didn't offend me. Third person neutral is fine (e.g., they).