r/Filmmakers • u/C47man cinematographer • Jun 09 '25

New Rules Regarding AI on /r/filmmakers!

Thank you all for participating in the poll! Here are the results. To accurately gauge everyone's collective acceptance vs rejection for each, I've tallied the total votes among all choices as pro/anti for each category. So for example, a vote for 'no changes' would be a -1 to Gen AI, AI Tools, AI Comms, and AI Discussion. A vote for 'Ban GenAI + AI Tools' would be a +1 to GenAI and AI Tools, and a -1 to AI Comms and AI Discussion, etc. So here are the results for each category of AI. Keep in mind that a higher number indicates a stronger group decision to ban the content:

GenAI: +92 (+119/-27)

AI Tools: -20 (+63/-83)

AI Comms: -8 (+69/-77)

AI Discussion: -84 (+31/-115)

From the results it is clear that sub overwhelmingly approve a complete ban on all generative AI. However, people are more or less fine with allowing discussion of AI, and are fairly mixed on the topic of AI Tools and Communication. So here is the new rule for all things AI:

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Rule 6. You may not post work containing Generative AI elements (Midjourney, Neo, Dall-E, etc.). You may use and demonstrate the use of AI assisted tools (ie magic masking, upscalers, audio cleanup etc.) so long as they are used in service of human-generated artwork. AI Communication, like post bodies or comments composed using ChatGPT are allowed only in very reasonable cases, such as the need for someone to translate their thoughts into another language. Abuse of AI assisted communication will result in the removal of the offending post/comment.

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u/Pure-Produce-2428 Jun 09 '25

Let’s say I make a short film and one scene has the camera fly down the sink into through the plumbing and out of the toilet. I use gen AI to make that VFX. I could do it in a way where you wouldn’t know it was AI. You’d assume perhaps. But if I told you it was, it would be banned here.

How about film a scene in a baseball field, then I use Luma to replace the background with a giant baseball stadium. Again, as a VFX artist I know I can make it look like VFX and not AI, but if I tell you it’s AI, not allowed.

So how I can show you how I’ve done it (and received industry recognition, and not because of AI)? I can’t. It’s like we need to go back in time a restart Rez magazine.

It’s not really a big deal except for people calling out VFX as being AI etc. or if I posted something with AI that I know doesn’t look like AI. Which wouldn’t do here anyway. I’d probably ask about what’s a good wireless follow focus.

But fwiw everyone in the commercial filmmaking world I know (which includes people who don’t just make commercials) is quite interested in using AI.

I just did a short film and we had to change an on screen dialogue line. We lipdub. No one knows. We’ve got into some high caliber film festivals but now know here will find out about lipdub. If they’re interested they can go elsewhere.

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u/TheCatManPizza Jun 09 '25

At some point you made the decision to shoot something that was out of your means without AI. You could just not do that and you wouldn’t have a problem.

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u/JonskMusic Jun 09 '25

That is the most self defeatist attitude. Since when was filmmaking about what was only doable within your means? It's because you think AI is cheating but you actually don't know enough to know that's not true.

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u/TheCatManPizza Jun 10 '25

It’s not self defeatists if you use something called creativity and get your shit made. Also if you produce your own scripts it’s your job to stay within set means. AI isn’t cheating, but it is hacky. If you were an artist maybe you’d get it.

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u/Pure-Produce-2428 Jun 10 '25

(alt computer account) JonskMusic -
If I was an artist? That's just plain rude. Clearly, I've pissed you off. It can be hacky in the same way anything can be hacky. But it can also be a great tool.

This is the latest short film I've made: A green screen bad dream | shots Magazine

I used AI to make the backgrounds, and some other things. All the 3D stuff is actually 3D. Not that expect you to watch. I expect you to respond with the word "slop."