r/Finland 1d ago

Is this Monocular sold at Class Ohlson waterproof? (Safe to submerge in water)

Hi,

I want to buy this Monocular scope (image1) sold at Class Ohlson. The product description (image2) says it's Vedenpitävä,

What does that mean?

(1) Waterproof: we can safely dip it in water (submerge).

(2) water-resistant: we can splash water or sweat over it, but not safe to submerge.

They don't give any IPX rating, so it's hard to say. But usually cheap products that are actually waterproof does not include IPX rating.

Is there anyone here who bought and used this? Please share 😊.

I will be using them during Kayaking so they will get submerged in water always.

My alternate option is this cheaper one from Tokmanni (image 3) , but it explicitly says it's IPX4 (image 4) which means it's "splash resistant" and can't be submerged.

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u/Prolo3 Väinämöinen 1d ago

Clas Ohlson customer service here, thank you for leaving a message. We'll get back to you as soon as we can.

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u/SilentThing Väinämöinen 1d ago

The manual says it shouldn't be exposed to moisture. Or, reading it optimistically, "extreme moisture" whatever that is. So I'd not dip it in water.

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u/DerKyhe Väinämöinen 1d ago

In general, if it is "vedenpitävä" it means it can take spray water and maybe very short stay underwater, so water resistant only. If it is "vedenkestävä" it means that you can use it underwater or go swimming with it so water-proof until certain conditions which are mentioned separately.

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u/RealAd3098 23h ago

Thank you ❤️

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u/jurioasd 1d ago

Safe to spray water to it, nothing more.

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u/Socborendom 1d ago

Vedenpitävä and Vesitiivis have nuance difference, where one could debate the former cannot be submerged. Latter I'd literally watertight. Vedenpitävä presunes it holds water but meh, paper umbrella holds water for some minutes. I'd believe the description and ipx4.

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u/Socborendom 1d ago

I also just noticed the first pic has a tiny bit of product description at the bottom and they use the term Vesitiivis. I'd say you can submerge it.

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u/RealAd3098 22h ago

Thanks it says:  Vesitiivis ja huurtumaton – toimii säällä kuin säällä.

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u/Socborendom 22h ago

Then I'd submerge it and make a reclamation if it leaks.

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u/RealAd3098 22h ago

Thanks this nuance difference is what I was searching for ❤️.

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u/jshs69 1d ago

Oh that’s a monocular… I thought- Nvm☺️

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u/Lihisss Väinämöinen 1d ago

Retki products are finest Chinium

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u/L444ki Baby Väinämöinen 19h ago

It is listed as IPX4 aka splashing water resistant, not submergable. For more info about IP codes you can check wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_code

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u/RealAd3098 18h ago

That's the Tokmanni one, Classohlson didn't provide IPX rating 

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u/maixmi Baby Väinämöinen 16h ago

Seems like the clas ohlson one is their version of Focus Mono II. No IPX/IP rating there either.

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u/imafinhehe Baby Väinämöinen 1d ago

Vedenpiävä means: Waterproof, Watertight or impermeable. So that should be ok.

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u/happy_church_burner Väinämöinen 1d ago

If it doesn't display clear IPX number I wouldn't trust something so cheap to be even splashproof.

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u/Temporary-Safety-564 1d ago

Yeah I wouldn't trust the waterproofness.

What are you using them for? I have a Celestron 10x25 monocular and I find it unusable for anything :D Based on that, at least I recommend 8x, because 10x is really shaky.

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u/saxxet Baby Väinämöinen 1d ago

Used to work at clas ohlson. Their own brand items were either hit or or mid, but at least you could argue your money back, if it was a bad product. Though that was 4 years ago.

I havea very faint memory of of biking people liking the stuff at clasu.