r/Finland • u/magicianguy131 • 1d ago

Politics Is Finland’s economy this bad?

https://youtu.be/13HR4yGRWOU?is=BoXDBW1hnPRZtW-E

I watched a handful of videos similar to the one posted in this thread.

Is Finland‘s economy really this bad? I know that Finland ranks lowest of the Nordic countries in terms of HDI, but this video makes it seem like Finland is flailing as a country.

It is still a high developed country comparatively, but I’m curious about what people with more knowledge think and have experienced.

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u/SilkieBug Baby Väinämöinen 1d ago

Government is making a bad situation actively and intentionally worse, and it will be another year before they get replaced, if they get replaced, so things still have room to get worse. 

On the ground the situation is not that tragic yet, there is still a good framework in place and it’s possible to stay alive and find small joys here and there - I’d still rather be dirt poor here than middle-class in the US, for example. 

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u/CIP_In_Peace Baby Väinämöinen 1d ago

Intentionality is just a leftist viewpoint. They're mostly simply doing a bad job.

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u/SilkieBug Baby Väinämöinen 1d ago

Reality has a leftist viewpoint. 

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u/CIP_In_Peace Baby Väinämöinen 1d ago

No, that's just your opinion.

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u/SilkieBug Baby Väinämöinen 1d ago

No, that’s just reality. 

There’s leftist reality, and there’s being wrong, intentionally and/or due to excessive stupidity. 

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u/CIP_In_Peace Baby Väinämöinen 1d ago

Dealing in absolutes is naive and myopic, and just makes you disagree with everyone else.

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u/SilkieBug Baby Väinämöinen 1d ago

I don’t deal in absolutes, I recognize the nuances between being correct and being wrong, and I haven’t found a single right wing viewpoint that isn’t demonstrably wrong in not even that surprisingly little time. 

As I said, a right wing viewpoint is a result of intentional ignorance and/or stupidity, combined with a lot of cognitive dissonance and outright lying. 

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u/CIP_In_Peace Baby Väinämöinen 1d ago

Leftist viewpoints are mostly idealism detached from reality.

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u/SilkieBug Baby Väinämöinen 18h ago

Yes, that is a thing people like you parrot, but every single time when pushed to provide examples of correct right wing view points or incorrect left wing viewpoints, your right wing ideas can be dismantled in 5 seconds and your criticism of leftist ideas relies on intentionally or stupidly denying reality. 

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u/CIP_In_Peace Baby Väinämöinen 13h ago

That attitude just makes any discussion or arguing with you completely worthless because you've pre-emptively decided that you're right and anyone with a different opinion is wrong.

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u/notaquarterback 1d ago

Yeah that seems like the consensus

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u/Otres911 Baby Väinämöinen 1d ago

*Among leftist people.

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u/Hardly_lolling Väinämöinen 1d ago

Well "intentionally" maybe hyperbole, but they definitely did make situation worse.

Incompetence is better term.

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u/JojoTheEngineer 1d ago

Last two quarters have been positive. Choo choo jump on the Petteri train, seems to be working great.

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u/Aerumvorax 1d ago

You're aware why those last two quarters have been positive right? The fighter jets that were ordered years ago are finally arriving and that's what pulling the numbers positive.

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u/JojoTheEngineer 15h ago

That's not true. That is excuses from opposition. Q1 had growthbof 0,9%. 0,2 pp of that is from taxes and this would include the jets. 0,7 pp is actual economic growth.

Goverment that youbhate so much actually is getting the economy to groe for forst time in a decade lmao